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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
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Seems many don't realize just what's happening. It's not about just one problem, it's about many problems that needs attention. One is why does our country give billions of dollars to 177 countries every year? Why do we have military bases world wide, and those countries refuse us from using them, or their air space? Example Spain, which was ( and may still be ) ruled by Islam for years. Will not let us use their air space, yet still want our protection. … I’m with you … let’s conquer the dune cunes and take their resources…. Then subjugate them … that’d be fun
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
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#8622518
14 hours ago
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Seems many don't realize just what's happening. It's not about just one problem, it's about many problems that needs attention. One is why does our country give billions of dollars to 177 countries every year? Why do we have military bases world wide, and those countries refuse us from using them, or their air space? Example Spain, which was ( and may still be ) ruled by Islam for years. Will not let us use their air space, yet still want our protection. Those are probably NATO bases, They are meant for defense, not U.S.offensive operations .
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: Ohio Wolverine]
#8622519
14 hours ago
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OW….I Luv you brother.. just think you’re hyper focused on a symptom of a bigger problem
…. Anyway I ain’t running… but I’ll say you win if that brings you peace or what have you You have some pull on here, can't refute that. I really respect you, and am glad you're here. But you play games that mean more than you realize . It's very hard to understand the world politics anymore, because of globalism fanatics, and their BS. But it effects every aspect of our lives. …. Nobody listens to me ..,.. I’m an idiot …. This a trapping forum where we cut up about politics every now and then … just good clean fun … don’t put that evil on me lol
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: Dirt]
#8622520
14 hours ago
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Seems many don't realize just what's happening. It's not about just one problem, it's about many problems that needs attention. One is why does our country give billions of dollars to 177 countries every year? Why do we have military bases world wide, and those countries refuse us from using them, or their air space? Example Spain, which was ( and may still be ) ruled by Islam for years. Will not let us use their air space, yet still want our protection. Those are probably NATO bases, They are meant for defense, not U.S.offensive operations . Then maybe you have an idea why Trump wants Greenland.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: charles]
#8622521
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^^^^^^^ In a way that 's funny, so we have to wait to be attacked before we can become offensive ?
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: Savell]
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OK Sorry, got out of line, just not everything is a joke .
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: Yes sir]
#8622523
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I will say most of us wish we would be more USA first but with world politics and finance as it is im not sure if thats possible at this time to the extent of what most want. Working that direction would definitely be desirable but we've spend 90 years moving away from that and it cant turn around over night … I could recommend a book
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
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#8622524
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OK Sorry, got out of line, just not everything is a joke . …. Calm down brother…. We’re just screwed at this point … I cope by watching reruns of the Andy Griffith show
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
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#8622526
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I didn't know you read.  He reads Dr SUSE (SP) BOOKS.
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: charles]
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14 hours ago
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When I was part of NATO we trained to defend against an invasion. Never planned or trained to invade anybody. NATO is a defence alliance.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: charles]
#8622528
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I watch that too, got tired of paying for informercials and high prices for movies and sports. Antenna tv now, same crap, just more money in my pocket. It's free after installation . Can even watch soaps, if you want! DD might be interested in that.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: Dirt]
#8622529
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When I was part of NATO we trained to defend against an invasion. Never planned or trained to invade anybody. NATO is a defence alliance. As long as we paid for it. Another free ride by NATO countries. How much do they pay into the costs of operations?
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: charles]
#8622530
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In gulf War I a bunch of the middle east Islamic countries paid the U.S. to attack Iraq and throw them out of Kuwait. I wonder how much Israel is paying the U.S. to attack Iran. Probably won't be getting any shekels soon.
"GAO discussed the status of allied contributions to support Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm and the use of such contributions to defray U.S. costs. GAO noted that: (1) the European Commission (EC) and 49 countries contributed support for the Persian Gulf crisis; (2) during the Persian Gulf crisis, 36 countries sent ground, air, or naval forces or support units to the region; (3) allies pledged about $54 billion and contributed about $44.5 billion, including $39.1 billion in cash and $5.4 billion in in-kind support; (4) as of July 31, 1991, the Department of Defense (DOD) had received an additional $1.6 billion in cash and contributions totalling about $46.1 billion; (5) Japanese and Korean pledges to support the operations were reduced due to a misunderstanding between governments; (6) of the $7.9 billion in future receipts, DOD expects to receive about $7.7 billion in cash, including $4.1 billion from Saudi Arabia, $3.5 billion from Kuwait, and up to $129 million from Japan; (7) in addition to cash and in-kind support to the United States, EC and 24 countries pledged about $16.1 billion in economic assistance to Turkey, Jordan, Egypt, and other countries affected by the economic embargo against Iraq; and (8) allied contributions will be used to defray U.S. costs of maintaining military forces in the Persian Gulf, related costs, and incremental costs. GAO believes that: (1) allied cash contributions should be sufficient to finance U.S. funding requirements to pay for the incremental costs of the war; and (2) U.S. taxpayers' funds would not be needed."
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
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#8622531
13 hours ago
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In gulf War I a bunch of the middle east Islamic countries paid the U.S. to attack Iraq and throw them out of Kuwait. I wonder how much Israel is paying the U.S. to attack Iran. Probably won't be getting any shekels soon.
"GAO discussed the status of allied contributions to support Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm and the use of such contributions to defray U.S. costs. GAO noted that: (1) the European Commission (EC) and 49 countries contributed support for the Persian Gulf crisis; (2) during the Persian Gulf crisis, 36 countries sent ground, air, or naval forces or support units to the region; (3) allies pledged about $54 billion and contributed about $44.5 billion, including $39.1 billion in cash and $5.4 billion in in-kind support; (4) as of July 31, 1991, the Department of Defense (DOD) had received an additional $1.6 billion in cash and contributions totalling about $46.1 billion; (5) Japanese and Korean pledges to support the operations were reduced due to a misunderstanding between governments; (6) of the $7.9 billion in future receipts, DOD expects to receive about $7.7 billion in cash, including $4.1 billion from Saudi Arabia, $3.5 billion from Kuwait, and up to $129 million from Japan; (7) in addition to cash and in-kind support to the United States, EC and 24 countries pledged about $16.1 billion in economic assistance to Turkey, Jordan, Egypt, and other countries affected by the economic embargo against Iraq; and (8) allied contributions will be used to defray U.S. costs of maintaining military forces in the Persian Gulf, related costs, and incremental costs. GAO believes that: (1) allied cash contributions should be sufficient to finance U.S. funding requirements to pay for the incremental costs of the war; and (2) U.S. taxpayers' funds would not be needed." Source of this information? Funny quote U.S. taxpayers' funds would not be needed."[/quote] Yet the US was the main force in that and all other wars over there! Who paid for that? Yet NATO countries hedge on their dues every year. Time to let other countries back themselves, instead of letting the USA do the deed. Takers will always take, and givers will always give.
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: charles]
#8622532
13 hours ago
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When you have a UN sanctioned operation, other countries pony up a little. Not so much on" go it alone "operations.
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
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#8622535
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When you have a UN sanctioned operation, other countries pony up a little. Not so much on" go it alone "operations. True, seems as little as they can. Time to stop being the worlds ATM!
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: charles]
#8622540
11 hours ago
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Do you think that maaaaaaaaybe we will run ourselves so low on weapons that we will be attacked by China and Russia at our weakest point
Never Confuse Stupid With Crazy
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Re: Iran, what are they thinking
[Re: charles]
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There’s no way for the US to get out of this alone without losing face. Iran is making a mockery out of this. You can’t use nukes, can’t send ground troops, cyber attacks seem to be non existent, CIA relies 100% on other agencies in the region, ammo’s getting replenished but not over night. A whole whack of leaders have been taken out, what’s changed? Is there anyway this can be twisted to look like this was a good move? Right at the start, honestly, did anyone thing this was going to end well of the US?
The education level of some on here is obviously quite low, surprising they manage to jumble together a semi coherent statement sometimes…..lol. You don’t have to be smart to look back and learn history, but it’s ugly so some refuse to learn……
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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