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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: alaska viking] #8627675
06/20/26 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Can someone post a picture of a round colony trap with the funnel ends? I get the concept, (big minnow trap with large funnel-shaped ends), but how big is the opening? How far is the recess? How long is the trap? Just one end, I assume? Or both in some instances?

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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8627677
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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: Turtledale] #8627682
06/20/26 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Originally Posted by alaska viking
Can someone post a picture of a round colony trap with the funnel ends? I get the concept, (big minnow trap with large funnel-shaped ends), but how big is the opening? How far is the recess? How long is the trap? Just one end, I assume? Or both in some instances?

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Mine will have a couple of pigeon trap wires hinged at the top of each funnel opening…


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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8629468
06/25/26 12:00 PM
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Please explain the advantages a round colony trap has over a square one.


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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8629472
06/25/26 12:19 PM
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Please explain the advantages a round colony trap has over a square one.


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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: The Beav] #8629477
06/25/26 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Please explain the advantages a round colony trap has over a square one.

Only thing I can see right off the top is easier to make.


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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8629490
06/25/26 01:12 PM
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Well maybe. But you still have to make the cones, and you have to make a door so you can remove the rats. and you have to make swinging doors on the ends of the cones.


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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8629839
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I would use round colonies before square colonies every time. We can put colonies in culvert so it’s a no-brainer. I’ve probably built about 1000 round colonies. They are very easy to build just takes a little longer than square colonies. The only time I use Square colonies is when there is very low water. If I can put a round colony in the water, that’s the first thing I’ll use and the only thing I’ll use. round colonies need a gate on them. I put a U-shaped wire coat hanger over the opening flips up flips down once some muskrats swim in. I’ve rolled a trap upside down with a live muskrats in it and it took about 30 seconds for him to find the opening and was gone out of the trap. You need a gate on a round colony! most I’ve caught in a round colony was 23 muskrats in an overnight soak. With a round colony I average 8 to 12 muskrats on the first check in a culvert.
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Muskrat drip/dry hanger system while checking colonies. Usually the first ones caught are dry and ready to skin in a hour or so of driving around
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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8629879
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Best I ever did was 12 rats In a 8X8X24 trap.
We could trap culverts In N D and I found that if the culvert was full, I had better luck using colony traps. It seemed to me when the culvert wasn't full the rats swam on top.
By placing 8" wings on a colony trap I could use a 8X8 trap and cover up to 30 inches. In a round culvert the rats swam right in the center and right on the bottom. So, my square trap with wings covered that area.
The big problem I see regarding the round trap is that the cones take up so much room you have to build the trap so long to get the added room for more rats.

I could see if you had lots of 18" culverts to trap and you made 18" round colony traps; they would be rat killing machines.


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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8629923
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Saskbone sent me a few cones for a pattern, and one roll of wire makes 32-33 of them and I have them cut out and stitched together,just have to complete before I can take over the world.


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Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8629955
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Dang Sask that's getting it done!

Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8630142
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Where I trap is a grid road system. Farmland with a road every 2 miles by 1 mile. Rectangle you could say. Most all culverts put in are 18 or 24 inch. One colony on each side of the culvert. When the culvert is under water most muskrats will swim up to it and dive and go in At the the top. Coming out the other side they 99 percent of the time come out at the bottom. That’s why two traps. You will miss a lot of rats on the side you don’t have a trap. When the culvert is not full they will swim the top of the water right to the other side then dive down before they come out. No Ive watched a lot of muskrats over the years. I think it’s a survival thing. When they exit they swim out the bottom of the culvert and a few yards into the water so they can see above them before they come up. I could be wrong but that’s what I believe. Lots of the rectangle grids 1x2 miles will have 10 to 20 culverts on them. We used to have lots of water. Last 8-9 years water has disappeared. Culverts I used to trap that were under 3 feet of water now have crop growing beside them. I could catch 2-3 hundred rats a day .. now I would be lucky to trap 100 in a spring and fall season.
You are correct they are big. At three foot long by 1 foot round they fill up a truck quick. But I could dump 50 in 1/2 hour where I trapped. I could set 100 opening day. Go back where I set the first ones and pull a bunch of rats and check the whole line that day.

If water was low where I could get a trap under water I switched to the 6x6 square. 2 or three at each end worked great.

I always say use what works best for you.

I used to have 100 floats. Once I built enough colonies the floats got left in the shed. Way too much time wasted setting them. Plus you were limited on catches. Colonies keep catching.. floats get full and stop producing

Re: Colony trap preference [Re: marty weatherup] #8630187
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The problem I found In ND was that lots of those culverts got plugged up or the ends got smashed flat by equipment driving over them. But the ones we could set were a trapper's dream. Some of those culverts we checked twice a day, and we still were catching rats. That one spring we caught 1500 rats and averaged $7.00 each. I would say that 1/3 of those rats came out of colony traps. If I had lots of viable culverts I don't think I would ever set another foot hold.
But we can't set culverts here in WI.


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