until u know u just dont know....
Maybe just maybe duke will build some with that style

Regular, offset, laminated really doesn't matter as caught is caught. It's more a question of what you can live with on potential foot damage. Wider, smoother, offset being the easier on the foot end of the spectrum though simply filing the face smooth and rounding/breaking the inside edge of a regular can go a long way to make things gentler on a foot.

Lamination does strengthen a set of jaws against flexing and popping out of the frame if you got hard pullers but if that is a concern, you're better off starting with a stout enough trap in the first place. Again, just my opinion but lamination for me would be for those times you might be limited to just smaller lighter traps like trapping around domestics or maybe traps for a raccoon/fox line that could hold the occasional coyote. Lamination does add weight to the jaws and could potentially slow the trap.

Wolf Creek, cheaper than duke.

Pan ears aren't welded together. They require adjustment after every catch. Sometimes you can't even get them to set again without taking them back to the shop. These are a great example of a trap thats dog on version is better than the dogless. Similar design as the Monty's but not quite there

I would go closed jaw . I’m currently waiting to order regulate jaws for some Duke 1.75 and 3 that I got off a coyote trapper. You can catch everything in closed jaws. You won’t catch much in offsets if you get to trapping ponds. Down here our yotes aren’t big I’ve caught mine in duke 1.75 closed jaws no mods except I add swivels. That’s also my go to trap for otter and catch lots of incidental coon however I think the no bs 1.5 would be a better coon and mink trap if you not using drowners. And the duke #2 would be an awesome coyote/ otter trap if it has regular jaws. Ifyou order the Berkshire steaks get the heavy duty with the pointed end. The regulate ones do not hold well in our soil learned that mistake the hard way

thanks! you think I should just get a bunch of 1.75 instead of #2s and #1s for coon yotes and cats

Kid reminds of myself so yeah I probably would lol

there's a extra heavy duty and a swampmaster Berkshire steak which one were you talking about?

I use everything from number 1 to number 4 it really depends on the situation. But traps are kinda like tools you get more over time if I were starting again I would buy 1 dozen no bs 1.5 and one dozen duke number 2 square jaw. You can cover a lot of bases with those two traps. I use the 1.75 because it’s what I found cheap at the time I had planned on getting the number 2. The 1.75 is a good trap but the 2 would be better for yotes and otter. I will say go 1.5 instead of number one the no bs are about the same price as duke and come laminated with double jaws

Also call wildlife and fisheries and sign up for the trapping class they give you a few traps and other gear

Yep, this style is my favorite.

I was planning on doing that this year it looks really cool.

do you do anything there?

Just the regular heavy duty not the soft ground

No but I know trapper gunny on here helps with them

thanks you have been a big help

I think I saw you say adding an extra length of chain on your yote traps? I keep mine short shortening them at times. Im not using drags and less theu cant get as much momentum or pump the trap as hard. Or at least to my thinking.

Maybe get yourself both to give them a try. I myself have never used a dog less trap. Just laminated two #3 Bridgers plus base plated them. They will get 4 coiled also. You wouldn't need #3 traps the #2 in the different brands will work for you.

Yeah...get yourself a file and go to work on those floppy Montgomery dogless pans to achieve that desired pan tension.

I'll just get a screwdriver and pliers and adjust my Bridger dogless pans.

And, as I mentioned in your Live Market thread.....offset jawed traps cause more foot cutting than regular jawed traps. The gap allows just enough sliding back and forth thruout the night's tussle to cut the skin on nearly every coyote or fox foot.

Regular jaws clamp and hold (if springs are strong). Most of the time...there is not even a small nick on top of the foot.

Cajun, instead of paying CRAZY HIGH shipping costs, why not contact Yellow belly or Slipknot and find out WHEN the next Louisiana convention is? OR see if those two can set you up with a dealer/trapper who has traps for sale...even used traps properly tuned can work out fine. And you'll save a bunch of money. For as much time and info those two trappers have handed out, I think you are in good hands.
Good luck.

I’m a fan on the Montgomery dogless design. Most coyotes I catch have there toes touching the pan and it’s a simple dogless design. It’s a shame Victor had some troubles and doesn’t make them anymore