No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum ~ Live Chat

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
A question for flint knappers #8636868
Yesterday at 03:08 PM
Yesterday at 03:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
B
Big Sam Offline OP
trapper
Big Sam  Offline OP
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
Knapping is something that has always interested me. A friend gave me a chunk of obsidian recently and it rekindled my interest.
I was wondering if any of you folks could point me the right direction as far as videos, literature, and a decent tool kit to order. Any info would be much appreciated.

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8636870
Yesterday at 03:15 PM
Yesterday at 03:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
east central WI
k snow Offline
trapper
k snow  Offline
trapper

Joined: Oct 2009
east central WI
I would strongly recommend trying to find a local knap-in to go to. There is so much that is "feel" in that art, it is very difficult to put into words or video.

You can practice on glass, flatter bottoms on beer bottles can make cool little arrowheads.


"in the midst of a savage wilderness to depend entirely upon their unassisted strength and hardihood"
Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8636872
Yesterday at 03:17 PM
Yesterday at 03:17 PM
Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
I used to knap as a kid. I didn't have good materials available, so I never progressed much. There should be knap-ins in your area.

https://flintknappers.com/events.php

There's some huge knap-ins in Ohio at Nether's Farm at Flint Ridge. For a small fee they let you dig flint at the site. People sell flint from there online, for pretty big money. Flint Ridge flint is the Ohio gemstone.

Obsidian is incredibly sharp, much sharper than surgical steel. Protect your eyes, hands and lap. Watch out for pieces on the ground too. I saw a video where I guy got flakes in his crocs, stood up and immediately regretted it. He embedded many tiny flakes in his feet and bled profusely.

Keith

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8636875
Yesterday at 03:31 PM
Yesterday at 03:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
east central WI
k snow Offline
trapper
k snow  Offline
trapper

Joined: Oct 2009
east central WI
Looks like you just missed one in MN, but maybe the contact here can help you out.

[Linked Image]


Knap In Calendar


"in the midst of a savage wilderness to depend entirely upon their unassisted strength and hardihood"
Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8636884
Yesterday at 03:50 PM
Yesterday at 03:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
South shore L.I. N.Y.
G
gcs Online content
trapper
gcs  Online Content
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
South shore L.I. N.Y.
I was always interested too, we don't have good stone here, the Indians used quartzite found in beach cobbles which is a difficult stone to work...after banging some rocks together I said no way is this possible, lol, did get some rudimentary sharp "flakes", mostly by accident though... grin

There was a university professor here that was good at it, but too busy working to figure out how to get a hold of him and see if he taught people...

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8636894
Yesterday at 04:13 PM
Yesterday at 04:13 PM
Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
We had limestone and limited amounts of shale at our house. They weren't any good. My grandparents had quartz, granite and a little slate. They were a little better, but not good. Quartz would put out impressive sparks when smashed.

I wish I had known about stone celts, axes and hammers being made of granite. I would of made those instead of points.

Keith

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8636898
Yesterday at 04:19 PM
Yesterday at 04:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
South shore L.I. N.Y.
G
gcs Online content
trapper
gcs  Online Content
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
South shore L.I. N.Y.
I actually made a Quartz beach rock "club", can't rightly call it a tomahawk, lol, rock was a perfect shape to mount on a split green stick, bound up it was tight and would definitely ruin someone's day, lol.... that was the extent of my stone age skills... grin

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8636927
Yesterday at 05:43 PM
Yesterday at 05:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
B
Big Sam Offline OP
trapper
Big Sam  Offline OP
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
Thank you guys for the information.
K snow, I had no idea that knap-ins existed. I'll have to try to check one out.

Keith, I've played with obsidian just enough to know that it's likely to hurt me. It seems that most things that interest me have some way of causing me to bleed. Lol. I'll definitely take precautions. I wonder how many Indians were blinded back in the day when they were forming a cutting edge?

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8636963
Yesterday at 07:07 PM
Yesterday at 07:07 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
SW Pa
W
wr otis Offline
trapper
wr otis  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jun 2008
SW Pa
D.C. Waldorf google him

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8637011
Yesterday at 09:20 PM
Yesterday at 09:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
east central WI
k snow Offline
trapper
k snow  Offline
trapper

Joined: Oct 2009
east central WI
Ryan Gill's channel has a ton of knapping info. He is very good at it.



"in the midst of a savage wilderness to depend entirely upon their unassisted strength and hardihood"
Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8637012
Yesterday at 09:24 PM
Yesterday at 09:24 PM
Joined: Jun 2026
Texas
ColdspringKidd Offline
trapper
ColdspringKidd  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jun 2026
Texas
…I like to chew em down to a good point

… it doesn’t taste the best but gets the job done

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8637013
Yesterday at 09:35 PM
Yesterday at 09:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
B
Big Sam Offline OP
trapper
Big Sam  Offline OP
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
Thank you, Otis, I believe I'll order his book.
Thanks k snow, I'll try to watch the video tomorrow, looks interesting.

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: ColdspringKidd] #8637014
Yesterday at 09:38 PM
Yesterday at 09:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
B
Big Sam Offline OP
trapper
Big Sam  Offline OP
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
Originally Posted by ColdspringKidd
…I like to chew em down to a good point

… it doesn’t taste the best but gets the job done

After yotetrapper shot and killed Savell, I wasn't sure I'd like you.
Now that I've observed your posts, I've decided that you are ok. You're kinda like a "Great Value Savell".

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8637016
Yesterday at 09:43 PM
Yesterday at 09:43 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
SW Pa
W
wr otis Offline
trapper
wr otis  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jun 2008
SW Pa
I bought his video, on vhs so it's been a while. Lots of foundational information to get you started.

There's some really basic things you need to know, the way you prepare a platform to strike a flake off. You might get lucky and figure it out, but it's much better to be shown what to do.

Slim would say about trapping, that you miss out on the satisfaction and experience of figuring things out for yourself. But we ain't going to live forever, and sometimes a shortcut is the best decision.

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8637019
Yesterday at 09:54 PM
Yesterday at 09:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
SW Pa
W
wr otis Offline
trapper
wr otis  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jun 2008
SW Pa
If you can get to a knap in, you can buy tools and materials. Guys travel from all over to them selling things. I bought basault and obsidian from the west, chert from kansas, and I think some actual flint from England. I don't remember so good anymore, so don't remember exact details.

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8637144
2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Joined: Apr 2013
nebraska
trapjunkie Offline
trapper
trapjunkie  Offline
trapper

Joined: Apr 2013
nebraska
Lots of good advice here. Knapp-ins would be best, lots of YouTube stuff out there too. Play it safe, the eyes you save will be your own. Anyway, just practice practice practice. It’s a good little hobby.
Arthritis stopped me from knapping a few years back so I do have quite a bit of obsidian laying around and maybe 40 or 50 pounds of slabs I could be persuaded to sell at a reasonable price.
I also have 12 or so Osage bow staves I will sell also. 1/2 off sale. If you live in the spee Dee delivery area you can’t beat the price.
Pm me if interested.

Re: A question for flint knappers [Re: Big Sam] #8637145
2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Joined: Oct 2009
east central WI
k snow Offline
trapper
k snow  Offline
trapper

Joined: Oct 2009
east central WI
In addition to eye protection, be sure to work in a well ventilated area, or outdoors in a breeze. Silicosis is very real.


"in the midst of a savage wilderness to depend entirely upon their unassisted strength and hardihood"
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread