Western Cat Lures formulas
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I plan make some of my own bobcat lures and lead in lure I would like to use mostly of all ingredient's that I currently have on hand I have gallons of Propylene glycol , good clear fish oil ( carp) a few pounds of good beaver castor. Sodium benzoate About 30 ounces of 40 year old skunk tinture 37:1 Cherry oil mink glands fox urine catnip, fennel, Apple birch coconut oil Bear grease, pork lard
What would be a good proportion's of Catnip to propylene?
I also have a bunch of older ground beaver meat and , smells good enough to put on a sandwich
What do you lure makers got for suggestions
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Re: Western Cat Lures formulas
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Not a lure maker, but know many, including Asa Lenon warned about catnip, as if it is too strong will repel some cats
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Re: Western Cat Lures formulas
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No need to buy lure for cats. Half a castor in a hayball suspended in a walkthru cubby will get you all the cats you can skin.
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Re: Western Cat Lures formulas
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PG won't mix with oils. No point in using it in an oil-based mix. If you want to tincture castors before using them, to make a squirtable mix for instance, use vodka. 50 grams of castors per 500 ml of vodka.
I don't think you need sodium benzoate either, it's not like you're trying to stop something from actively rotting.
Cats like big heavy macrocyclic musks, such as deer musk, muskrat gland musk or the nearly identical or closely related synthetic musks (scentolide, ambrettolide, muscone, aurelione, etc.). They'll complement the castors well if you want to rely on the castors. These musks seem elicit the same reaction as catnip, and make cats euphoric and agitated and wanting to rub their faces against it. These things would make your mix interesting to cats.
If you want a tasty smell, I'd add some minty and maybe herbal-spicy essential oils, e.g. from plants of the carrot family, such as fennel, to the beaver paste, rather than use fruity smells or birch oil, and stop there.
A little bit of mink glands is nice because the mercaptans that give it the sharp blackcurrant-like note are relatively short-lived in the environment, so they'll signal that something interesting is right there and it's fresh.
I'm no expert and don't know much though.
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Re: Western Cat Lures formulas
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Trappng for me is not about the price of fur,,, hasnt been for years, just living life the best I can till the end of my earthly journey With the price of cats where it’s at why not just buy some proven formulas? But that’s just me. I have those ingredients,,, And I do have some commercial cat lures, Im not going to pay $8.00 an once for urine beaver castor and clove oil when I alread have a whole bunch. I find so much more satisfaction doing my own things I use to make commercial lures for canines for others,, I bait bears... and like some people some bears love certain foods and wont touch others Lure making and lures are a lot like cooking,,, most people like certain things,,,, then others may have no interest Not a lure maker, but know many, including Asa Lenon warned about catnip, as if it is too strong will repel some cats
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Re: Western Cat Lures formulas
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No need to buy lure for cats. Half a castor in a hayball suspended in a walkthru cubby will get you all the cats you can skin. PG won't mix with oils. No point in using it in an oil-based mix. If you want to tincture castors before using them, to make a squirtable mix for instance, use vodka. 50 grams of castors per 500 ml of vodka.
I don't think you need sodium benzoate either, it's not like you're trying to stop something from actively rotting.
Cats like big heavy macrocyclic musks, such as deer musk, muskrat gland musk or the nearly identical or closely related synthetic musks (scentolide, ambrettolide, muscone, aurelione, etc.). They'll complement the castors well if you want to rely on the castors. These musks seem elicit the same reaction as catnip, and make cats euphoric and agitated and wanting to rub their faces against it. These things would make your mix interesting to cats.
If you want a tasty smell, I'd add some minty and maybe herbal-spicy essential oils, e.g. from plants of the carrot family, such as fennel, to the beaver paste, rather than use fruity smells or birch oil, and stop there.
A little bit of mink glands is nice because the mercaptans that give it the sharp blackcurrant-like note are relatively short-lived in the environment, so they'll signal that something interesting is right there and it's fresh.
I'm no expert and don't know much though.
Thanks guys ,,, that is what I did not mostly know and am looking for I have plenty of castor,,,,;) just wish I had a bit of muskrat gland
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Re: Western Cat Lures formulas
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I also have some shellfish oil I would like to use up as part of a in-the-cage light trailing lure
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