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Re: Credit cards vs National Debt
[Re: Dirt]
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Yesterday at 08:12 PM
Yesterday at 08:12 PM
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Steven 49er
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So if credit card debt is bad, if half the country is dead broke, how is borrowing money to just pay interest on the national debt a good idea????? Is the dollar still a reliable indicator of your wealth? It is a great idea, if seniors get the wealth and leave the debt to their grand children. At least for seniors. That's my plan for the lake cabin. Build it when I retire and put it on a 30 year plan. Kids can pay it of lol. Who am I kidding I'm too cheap.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Credit cards vs National Debt
[Re: spjones]
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Yesterday at 08:51 PM
Yesterday at 08:51 PM
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BandB
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I would say that the 1.6 figure would also be “just scraping by,,,”
If you actually want to enjoy retirement,,,,,
Not everyone has the same definition of "enjoyment"
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Re: Credit cards vs National Debt
[Re: danny clifton]
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4 hours ago
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spjones
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It only makes sense that the oldest generation has the most wealth,,,
Nearing the end of a life of working(hopefully accumulating)
Without looking,,, I’ll bet the average numbers aren’t even close to being able to sustain themselves
And most people are likely below average,,
It’s a purposeful failure of the education system
The push for more socialism will only grow,,, government debts will only increase,,,, the currencies will be further debased,,,, asset prices will be artificially inflated even more/ever increasing
Interest rates will never again be high enough to actually reward savers,,,
If they were ever high enough to reward savers,,,,,?
The cost to service the debt would be too great
The money is broken
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Re: Credit cards vs National Debt
[Re: Dirt]
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4 hours ago
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OhioBoy
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Holy Crap when you put it like that... I work with Engineers just starting out getting married having kids that rent appartments. "Baby Boomers hold $83.3 trillion in assets, over half of all U.S. household wealth. Gen X accounts for $42.6 trillion, more than the combined $37.2 trillion held by the Silent Generation, Millennials, and Gen Z. Millennials and Gen Z together hold just $17.1 trillion, making up 10.5% of total wealth—despite being the largest cohort by population size. The Baby Boomer generation is arguably the richest in history, averaging $1 million in wealth per person in America." Source: Visualizing America's Wealth. It's tough being old, I need me a 30 percent discount. 
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Re: Credit cards vs National Debt
[Re: danny clifton]
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3 hours ago
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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Economy in the future doesn't look to rosy to me. What do I know though? Just another trapper with little education.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Credit cards vs National Debt
[Re: danny clifton]
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spjones
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It’s actually not all doom’n’gloom,,,
Especially for younger folks,,, with time on their side
Hard work and actually understanding how money works,,,,
An individual can do very well, and not rely on the government
Capitalism is still alive and well
Understanding how money actually works is key(sound money/scarce assets/etc)
If a person is banking on government to take care of them,,,,the future isn’t very bright
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Re: Credit cards vs National Debt
[Re: Steven 49er]
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1 hour ago
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Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
Dirt
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Sometimes I wonder? I spend a bit of time around retired people and have yet to figure what they have to spend money on. n. Well for starters there is taxes and insurance. Then there is hunting, fishing, trapping, grand kids, great grand kids. Home maintenance, carr maintenance I don't know what it will cost to retire, I don't know how much money a guy will need. Every time I think about what age it goes up a year in my mind. There is need money ( food, clothing, and shelter, and healthcare that actually keeps you kicking) and then there is play money. Sounds like you want to play a bit. Boco was right about if you start feeling you need more money in your senior years you can always get a job and add some of those new inflated dollars at those new inflated wages. I'm doing that right now.
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Who is John Galt?
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Re: Credit cards vs National Debt
[Re: danny clifton]
#8640408
8 minutes ago
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Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
Dirt
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Let's just take this 1.6 million I need to retire when I'm 65. If I did not even make any investment income in 16 years or have pension money coming in, I could spend $100,000 a year until I was 81 years old. I have never spent $100, 000 a year or even half that. Why would I need 1.6 million dollars to retire at 65?
Who is John Galt?
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