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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: white marlin] #8643345
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Originally Posted by white marlin
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White Marlin, what makes anything "fake science" in your eyes? Who are you listening to?


he pulled the 6 foot isolation radius out of his butt. prove me wrong. (he admitted it, later)

check his flip flops on masking. Science would have given ONE answer, not three.

did the vaccine work to prevent infection? at first, he said it WOULD. then...not so much. but it would prevent you from passing it on...until it didn't.

as far as who I'm listening to...I watched a fair amount of the Senate hearings, where MANY instances of his non-Science findings were pointed out, and entered into the public record...there for you to see if you want the truth, or to question, as you see fit. it's all there.

did YOU watch any of that hearing?


White, did anybody in the world have all the answers when it came to Covid? I think everybody was kind of flying by the seat of their pants. According to the records over one million Americans died from covid and its complications during the pandemic. Could have been far worse. We lost some Tman members to it as well.

If science had just one answer every country in the world would have had the same policies to stop the spread of covid, but you can see that there were lots of different approaches and none were perfect.

I've seen that we were learning as we went form this thing. I believe that the vaccines saved a lot of lives. Of course, I'm a pro-vaccination type. (It's how we've gotten rid of polio and many other scourges to mankind). Now some of those are coming back because folks (if I may) like you don't believe in science ie: vaccinations.

If there were non-science mutterings from Mr. Fauci I may be ignorant of those. One must assume he is human, therefore fallible.

And finally, yes, I saw the hearings or synopses of them where he took the fifth. His attorneys told him to...I find no fault for him following an attorney's directions. Does not mean he's guilty of anything. You see that tactic all the time on both sides of the aisle.


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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: trapdog1] #8643346
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
White Marlin, what makes anything "fake science" in your eyes? Who are you listening to?

As far as making money off of his position you may notice that The Trump family is doing very well for themselves these days too. So it must be OK right?

Yeah, the Trump family was dirt poor before he took office. Sheesh.

Never said that. But have you paid any attention to the whole family's net worth since becoming president? They're doing more than modestly OK. The only reason I bring that up is because apparently Fauci making any money while in office form side-gigs made him an evil person.


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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: beaverpeeler] #8643359
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
White, did anybody in the world have all the answers when it came to Covid? I think everybody was kind of flying by the seat of their pants.


then he should have publicly said as much, instead of convincing .gov to close everything down.

Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I believe that the vaccines saved a lot of lives. Of course, I'm a pro-vaccination type. (It's how we've gotten rid of polio and many other scourges to mankind). Now some of those are coming back because folks (if I may) like you don't believe in science ie: vaccinations.

If there were non-science mutterings from Mr. Fauci I may be ignorant of those. One must assume he is human, therefore fallible.

And finally, yes, I saw the hearings or synopses of them where he took the fifth. His attorneys told him to...I find no fault for him following an attorney's directions. Does not mean he's guilty of anything. You see that tactic all the time on both sides of the aisle.


where did you get the idea that I don't believe in Science (vaccines)? Pure assumption on your part.

and I didn't ask you if you saw the synopsis of his pleading the 5th Amendment, 111 times. I asked you if you watched any of the hearing, and told you that the evidence you sought (??) was referenced by the Chair and presented into the official record. It appears to me that you are willfully sticking your head in the sand to avoid learning information that conflicts with your predetermined worldview. Reminds me of a line in "The Boxer" by Simon and Garfunkel...'all lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest'. only some refuse to even HEAR the rest.

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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Jingles] #8643396
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Foochi got to play God and it went straight to his head. Then prez. poopy pants broke out the auto pen and gave him a pardon so he'd never have to tell the truth. Can't make this stuff up.


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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: beaverpeeler] #8643398
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler

White, did anybody in the world have all the answers when it came to Covid? I think everybody was kind of flying by the seat of their pants. According to the records over one million Americans died from covid and its complications during the pandemic. Could have been far worse. We lost some Tman members to it as well.

If science had just one answer every country in the world would have had the same policies to stop the spread of covid, but you can see that there were lots of different approaches and none were perfect.

I've seen that we were learning as we went form this thing. I believe that the vaccines saved a lot of lives. Of course, I'm a pro-vaccination type. (It's how we've gotten rid of polio and many other scourges to mankind). Now some of those are coming back because folks (if I may) like you don't believe in science ie: vaccinations.

If there were non-science mutterings from Mr. Fauci I may be ignorant of those. One must assume he is human, therefore fallible.

And finally, yes, I saw the hearings or synopses of them where he took the fifth. His attorneys told him to...I find no fault for him following an attorney's directions. Does not mean he's guilty of anything. You see that tactic all the time on both sides of the aisle.


Saying that someone that was not sold on the covid vaccine is an anti-vaxxer is completely ludicrous and you know it.

Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Jingles] #8643416
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White, if I got you wrong mea culpa. That's why I put in parentheses "if I may". Next time we get together beers on me then. People pre-judge me often enough, so I am sensitive to that.

I was not able to see all of the hearing as it was during farming hours while I'm outside.


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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Jingles] #8643419
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What makes this more interesting is that British feller Peter Daszak, former CEO of Eco Health Alliance, is of Ukrainian stock...

Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Jingles] #8643426
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Almost every other country shut down some worse than the U.S. Fauci wasn't advising them.


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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Dirt] #8643462
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Almost every other country shut down some worse than the U.S. Fauci wasn't advising them.


They were listening to the World Health Organization, who were in lock step with Fauci. The guy that ran that was definetly getting paid.

Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Jingles] #8643465
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October 2019 the Gates foundation held a 3 day conference on what would happen if a pig corona virus was too appear in the general population
Does anyone remember that happening
They only got the pig virus wrong, everything else was spot on

Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Dirt] #8643472
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Almost every other country shut down some worse than the U.S. Fauci wasn't advising them.


show me another country with a similar Bill of Rights (which was violated as a direct result of Fauci's recommendations).

Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Jingles] #8643520
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Somebody declared a National Emergency on March 13, 2020. There went your rights.


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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Dirt] #8643523
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Somebody declared a National Emergency on March 13, 2020. There went your rights.


I agree that the buck stops at the President.

but Fauci was more than just complicit in that decision...he advocated and pressed for it.

as self-proclaimed "Mr. Science"...he was instrumental in that decision. no matter which way you slice it.

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I remember when the spokesmen for medical stuff in the U.S. was the surgeon general. Who made Fauci the spokesman?


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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: Dirt] #8643531
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Somebody declared a National Emergency on March 13, 2020. There went your rights.

You are so blatantly biased. The President was advised to do just what he did by the so called professionals

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I believe he saved countless lives "pressing" for that. Look at the countries that did not close down or closed down poorly and their death rates were higher.


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Originally Posted by rick brocious
Originally Posted by Dirt
Somebody declared a National Emergency on March 13, 2020. There went your rights.

You are so blatantly biased. The President was advised to do just what he did by the so called professionals


So he had more than one advisor telling him to do stuff? Not just Fauci?


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Re: Think back to 1978 [Re: beaverpeeler] #8643539
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I believe he saved countless lives "pressing" for that. Look at the countries that did not close down or closed down poorly and their death rates were higher.


I believe the death from Covid numbers were wildly inflated in this Country and would not base any other information on those numbers.

I remember the crazy fear-mongering associated with the pandemic; the hospital ships in big city harbors and the reefer trucks on standby in big cities to stack the bodies because morgues would be "quickly overwhelmed." All of which was of course sensationalized at every opportunity by the MSM.


Eh...wot?

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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I believe he saved countless lives "pressing" for that. Look at the countries that did not close down or closed down poorly and their death rates were higher.

Could have saved a lot more if he hadn't started it in the first place.


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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I believe he saved countless lives "pressing" for that. Look at the countries that did not close down or closed down poorly and their death rates were higher.


you are assuming the same population statistics (age, co-morbidities, etc.) and the same level of medical care, post-infection....apples and oranges (or potatoes)

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