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Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655578 09/02/26 05:46 PM 09/02/26 05:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Maine Bruce T trapper
Bruce T trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Maine	Also, if I accidently bump my gun or scope while hunting I will shoot it again while hunting that day in a safe place or before I go hunting again. NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA Proud member of NTA

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Swampghost] #8655580 09/02/26 05:52 PM 09/02/26 05:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska	Originally Posted by Swampghost I can just about diagnose the problem before you even start..the gun wasn't properly sighted in and...the guy doesn't want to check it because he is either too cheap to burn the ammo..or the gun recoils too much for him. Some people just can't shoot because they flinch too much. Try getting him to shoot it...but put a fired cartridge in the chamber without him knowing and that will just about prove it. I was in basic training with a guy like that. Could not get over that flinch. He failed basic training twice from it and when I left basic I looked out thebus window and there was Pvt Lance in formation starting basic for the THIRD time because he had a flinch. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8655581 09/02/26 05:54 PM 09/02/26 05:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi	Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE Originally Posted by Bruce T To each their own.I'm going to shoot my guns each year before I ever go hunting.It works for me.Hunting is to hard up here in northern Maine,NH,and Vermont for me to finally see a legal buck and I need to know in my mind that my gun will hit exactly where I aim. same I check zero before every deer season. I want to know it hits where I point it. if it was a year round season like hogs I would still check 1-2 times a year unless I was shooting a hog every month and it kept hitting right where I was aiming then I would just keep shooting. I'm just constantly shooting paper or small steel year round . YouTube expert "The bird of Hermes is my name , eating my wings to keep me tame"

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655582 09/02/26 05:57 PM 09/02/26 05:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Maine Bruce T trapper
Bruce T trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Maine	Nice shooting Wolfdog91 NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA Proud member of NTA

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655583 09/02/26 05:59 PM 09/02/26 05:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska	I was sorting brass today and found a 338-378 Weatherby Magnum. Never heard of one. Supposedly made in 1960s for elk hunting. That should do the trick. Or maybe something like this 37MM. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Gary Benson] #8655584 09/02/26 06:01 PM 09/02/26 06:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Maine Bruce T trapper
Bruce T trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Maine	Originally Posted by Gary Benson Originally Posted by Swampghost I can just about diagnose the problem before you even start..the gun wasn't properly sighted in and...the guy doesn't want to check it because he is either too cheap to burn the ammo..or the gun recoils too much for him. Some people just can't shoot because they flinch too much. Try getting him to shoot it...but put a fired cartridge in the chamber without him knowing and that will just about prove it. I was in basic training with a guy like that. Could not get over that flinch. He failed basic training twice from it and when I left basic I looked out thebus window and there was Pvt Lance in formation starting basic for the THIRD time because he had a flinch. I had my drill sergeant at Fort Dix,New Jersey tell me my form was incorrect and I could not shoot good.......Untill I outshoot him getting my expert pin NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA Proud member of NTA

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655607 09/02/26 07:27 PM 09/02/26 07:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Very SE Nebraska	I was at Ft Dix also. E-3-3 in 1982 Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655612 09/02/26 07:54 PM 09/02/26 07:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2026 Texas ColdspringKidd trapper
ColdspringKidd trapper Joined: Jun 2026 Texas	Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 Dad gave my number to some and they called me . Said they wanted a advice on a new gun because their 30-06 isn't killing pigs like it should... Asked them if har they where using for ammo . Said whatever the guy at Walmart gave him Asked where he's shooting them : said behind the shoulder .... Wouldn't specify if it was like heart and lung behind the shoulder or " big middle " behind the shoulder Asked if he gun was zeroed : said the classic: the white boy at the pawn shop bore sighted it.... Swear I've heard that more then I'd like Told him he needs to go to a range make sure it's actually hitting where it's supposed to ans sent him a video on shot placement on pigs and told him to come by when I get home and we'll see .. have a feeling this is just gonna be one of those deals of trying to compensate for poor ... everything..with more gun... Kept trying to ask about something bigger and better What would y'all have told him ? That person has no sense

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655628 09/02/26 08:41 PM 09/02/26 08:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 MT (Big Sky Country) A Allan Minear trapper
Allan Minear trapper A Joined: Jun 2010 MT (Big Sky Country)	Gary you need to research the .338-378 Weatherby Magnum , Elmer Keith helped develope it then Roy Weatherby chambered rifles for it I believe in 1966 ? WD , I'd also check the rings and mounts along with the scope on the .30-06 as everyone has mentioned it's a good non magnum caliber I like the 150 gr bullets . If recoil is the problem suggest a .243 Win with a 6 x scope . You're friend along the snare line . Allan

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655631 09/02/26 08:58 PM 09/02/26 08:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 ny U upstateNY trapper
upstateNY trapper U Joined: Aug 2008 ny	Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 Dad gave my number to some and they called me . Said they wanted a advice on a new gun because their 30-06 isn't killing pigs like it should... Asked them if har they where using for ammo . Said whatever the guy at Walmart gave him Asked where he's shooting them : said behind the shoulder .... Wouldn't specify if it was like heart and lung behind the shoulder or " big middle " behind the shoulder Asked if he gun was zeroed : said the classic: the white boy at the pawn shop bore sighted it.... Swear I've heard that more then I'd like Told him he needs to go to a range make sure it's actually hitting where it's supposed to ans sent him a video on shot placement on pigs and told him to come by when I get home and we'll see .. have a feeling this is just gonna be one of those deals of trying to compensate for poor ... everything..with more gun... Kept trying to ask about something bigger and better What would y'all have told him ? Should have told him your right,,that gun sucks.I'll give you $100 for it and you can put that money towards a better gun. the wheels of the gods turn very slowly

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Gary Benson] #8655725 09/03/26 07:25 AM 09/03/26 07:25 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Maine Bruce T trapper
Bruce T trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Maine	Originally Posted by Gary Benson I was at Ft Dix also. E-3-3 in 1982 1980 here.C-4-3 NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA Proud member of NTA

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655863 09/03/26 01:32 PM 09/03/26 01:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	a good way to present it is , if you can't afford a few boxes of 150 or 180gr Power points to sight in the gun and what 30 dollars a box , how the heck are you going to afford 130 dollars a box for something like 338 Lapua mag learn how to make hits with the 30-06 you have it will not be to little when you hit half way decent with decent ammo America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655877 09/03/26 02:09 PM 09/03/26 02:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Ky	Tell him to get a 270. The show in Europe wild boar fever on those bid estates. They almost all use a 270. Kill them on the run 90% of the time

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: jbyrd63] #8655898 09/03/26 03:23 PM 09/03/26 03:23 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	Originally Posted by jbyrd63 Tell him to get a 270. The show in Europe wild boar fever on those bid estates. They almost all use a 270. Kill them on the run 90% of the time because a 277-06 is so much different than a 308-06 that it will change a miss into a hit. America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8655941 09/03/26 04:52 PM 09/03/26 04:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Ky	Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE Originally Posted by jbyrd63 Tell him to get a 270. The show in Europe wild boar fever on those bid estates. They almost all use a 270. Kill them on the run 90% of the time because a 277-06 is so much different than a 308-06 that it will change a miss into a hit. Nah the person using it controls that. You hit a hog with a 150 grain fed power point mid level from his eye to his middle rib he ain't living thru that 277-06 OR 308-06 If the guy isn't killing hogs with 30 not six he's missing them. Lot hogs being killed with a 223.no where near knockdown of a not six....

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655945 09/03/26 04:59 PM 09/03/26 04:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Pa W Wright Brothers trapper
Wright Brothers trapper W Joined: Dec 2006 Pa	Go metric. They are invasive like the pigs.

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655946 09/03/26 05:01 PM 09/03/26 05:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2020 Indiana P Providence Farm trapper
Providence Farm trapper P Joined: Feb 2020 Indiana	22 lr untill he learns how to sight a gun in and shoot. Should be able to come off enough cash to swing that. Then he would do better with something with less recoil than an 06 Last edited by Providence Farm; 09/03/26 05:22 PM.

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8655950 09/03/26 05:11 PM 09/03/26 05:11 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Pa W Wright Brothers trapper
Wright Brothers trapper W Joined: Dec 2006 Pa	The 270 is an upgrade to 1922 from the 30-06 of 1906. If that's wrong I "might" get corrected lol. The 22 is good idea. I should buy one. Maybe it's the Indian not the arrow. Best answer,, I'm not home lol.

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8656014 09/03/26 07:13 PM 09/03/26 07:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2017 Marion Kansas Y Yes sir trapper
Yes sir trapper Y Joined: Jan 2017 Marion Kansas	Id tell them they aint hitting what they are shooting at and until they realize that i cant help them.

Re: Can't kill with a 30-06 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8656148 09/04/26 01:00 AM 09/04/26 01:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2013 Mn B Beaverdo trapper
Beaverdo trapper B Joined: Dec 2013 Mn	This guy here has a couple good vids regarding the 338-378. He makes some good points if delivering the lightening is the goal https://www.youtube.com/@alaskatruoutdoors9238/videos The Beaver and the Bear will show the way.

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