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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8655938
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I threw mine away. Twice. No repercussions.



I did the same and they eventually sent a woman out here to chastise me.
I told her "there are two US citizens living here. That's all you to know." She said I could be arrested for not filling out the bogus survey. I said.."go ahead". That's the last I ever heard about it.


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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8655940
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LOL now that's REAL dedication to send someone to where YOU live. grin


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Re: Data centers? [Re: white17] #8655962
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I threw mine away. Twice. No repercussions.



I did the same and they eventually sent a woman out here to chastise me.
I told her "there are two US citizens living here. That's all you to know." She said I could be arrested for not filling out the bogus survey. I said.."go ahead". That's the last I ever heard about it.


They flew someone to McGrath?


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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8655963
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I just got a phone call. Ailso got an arrest threat. I just said I will see you in court. Second one no phone call.


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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8655964
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Yes they did fly someone out here. She called on a couple other non-compliant individuals ))) Something tells me she didn't make much progress here


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Re: Data centers? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8655967
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor


They flew someone to McGrath?


LOL our tax money hard at work.......


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Re: Data centers? [Re: white17] #8655970
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Originally Posted by white17
Yes they did fly someone out here. She called on a couple other non-compliant individuals ))) Something tells me she didn't make much progress here


Golly! I know that kid from Coldspring Texas claimed to be an outlaw but it turns out we have a real outlaw in our midst.


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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8655976
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Like yote30 said the new builds are going to a closed loop cooling system, water cost money, some of the older ones are converting to closed loop where possibly. It has also been shown that electric rates have lowered in some places were the grid can support the load. The electric providers have fixed cost that can be distributed to a bigger customers. There are few things in our daily lives that don't go through a data center, not counting our infrastructure.

Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8655979
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Oh I don't think Danny qualifies as an outlaw. Certainly not as reprehensible as that Coldspring guy.........


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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8656022
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Entertaining thread, I will say. People better pull their head out of there, because AI and Data centers are their future, like it or not.


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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8656073
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Exactly right. I don't like it anymore than the guy who used to deliver ice to homes for iceboxes. It's coming whether we like it or not.


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Re: Data centers? [Re: white17] #8656096
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Originally Posted by white17
Oh I don't think Danny qualifies as an outlaw. Certainly not as reprehensible as that Coldspring guy.........


You obviously don't know Danny, LOL.


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Re: Data centers? [Re: spjones] #8656154
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Originally Posted by spjones
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[quote=spjones]Data centers aren’t required to be on the “grid”

In the future,,less and less will be on the grid


Like everything

There will be winners and losers



You mean like small modular nuclear plants?

Like the ones they’ve been putting on boats since the mid 50’s?


Sure it would take maybe ten small nuculear power plants to power a 1 gig data center and the gubmint is the only ones who has spent endless taxpayer money using them for nearly 70 years. No cost benefit analysis is used in weapons procurement.

“The announcement comes as the Trump administration pushes hard to develop the next generation of nuclear power, including billions in loans for large nuclear reactors to meet skyrocketing power demand from data centers and a pilot program to boost advanced reactor designs and projects for military and civilian use. No nuclear microreactors are supplying power to the commercial electric grid in the United States today”

Did I mention how this will be subsidize?

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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8656163
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Good AI generated response,,,

My point was they don’t need to be on the “grid”

Be it nuclear/gas/ or in space

Spoiler alert:

Everything is subsidized,,,,,

Socialize the costs,,,,,privatize the gains

Dammm Keynesian’s,,,,, printing money/loaning money into the system

Unfortunately it’s the system we live in

Got enough hard assets?


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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8656164
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In parsons KS they are digging a hole over a mile deep right now. The plan is to put a small nuclear reactor in the bottom of it.


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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8656171
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Nuclear is the future, the Gov. has contracts to use small nuclear plants to power military bases. Supposedly portable nuclear power units that fit on a semi can power up to 300,000 homes. Glad I'm old.

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Sounds like a lot of easy targets for bad actors to target.

Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8656223
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
In parsons KS they are digging a hole over a mile deep right now. The plan is to put a small nuclear reactor in the bottom of it.


Interesting!


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Re: Data centers? [Re: danny clifton] #8656245
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Re: Data centers? [Re: Rat Masterson] #8656249
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Nuclear is the future, the Gov. has contracts to use small nuclear plants to power military bases. Supposedly portable nuclear power units that fit on a semi can power up to 300,000 homes. Glad I'm old.

I agree, nuclear is the future. However, one must analyze where the uranium comes from for such power generation. I believe you produce less than 1% of the uranium you use. Nuclear doesn’t really fit the we don’t need anything from anybody narrative.

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