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Re: 25 years ago, a new DP coon trap was introduced. [Re: Getrz] #8662889
09/17/26 06:51 PM
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The Coon BMP Testing Showdown. Everything was going good....then..... "Houston, we have a problem!"

I got the call that the traps had been delivered. The WV biologist told me that he called in the BMP coon test trappers to come in to evaluate the traps and the protocols on the live restraint requirements for both the traps and the set areas. I had to ask, "What did the guys think of the new dog proof coon traps?" He responded, "They had that look of confusion on their faces." "I told the trappers that yes, it is a dog proof trap." "A new dog proof design that will be tested alongside the 1.5 coilspring trap."

The BMP Coon Trap Testing Protocols were based on these 5 core performance criteria,

1) Animal Welfare (Most Critical)

Live Restraint Traps must result in low injury scores. At least 70% of the captured raccoons must experience mild, moderate, or no injury.

2) Efficiency

Traps must demonstrate a high rate of capture and restraint. A trap passes the parameter only if it successfully captures and holds at least 60% of the raccoons that trip the device.

3) Selectivity

This protocol measures how effectively a trap targets raccoons while minimizing the risk of capturing non-target species.

4) Practicality

Initial purchase and maintenance costs. Weight, portability and ease of transport. Reliability in extreme weather. Expected lifespan and ease of operation.

5) Safety

The device must not present an unreasonable risk of serious injury to the trapper, wildlife professionals, or the general public who may encounter it.


The BMP test trappers that were chosen were professional or highly experienced trappers that could read sign and locate acceptable set areas to trap coon. A technician was appointed to each test trapper to document the set requirements, what traps to use, bait and lure applications and finish up with a final set inspection. From what I gathered from asking the WV biologist, 2 traps were used at each site....a double set as I would call it. One trap of each type tested, ex; 1 dog proof and one 1.5 coilspring trap. Traps were placed far enough apart to keep possibly 2 caught coon from reaching each other. Typical set for a 1.5 coil was the "pocket" set. The dog proof was simply pushed into the ground using the trap stabilizer to keep it in the upright position. Both sets were baited, lured the same. No drowning sets! Only live restrained at the set area! The technician would record each set area and would change bait, lure options at anytime. There were 48 of each type trap tested. Each day after a catch was made, the coon was euthanized, checked for visible damage and the technician would slide the euthanized coon in a sealed container with a enclosed barcode to identify it and then frozen. Later on, veterinarians would do a necropsy on the coon to check for trap induced damage. The barcode does not let the veterinarians know which trap was used....for bias reasons. The goal in the trapping part of this BMP testing was to capture 20 coon samples in each trap style.....20 in the dog proof, 20 in the 1.5 coilspring. Time limit 7 days.

The WV biologist told me not to call him while the testing was in progress. The testing began on November 4th, 2000. I couldn't stand the waiting. I called the WV biologist on Nov 6th, I asked, "So how's the testing going?" He replied, "Gary, you're not supposed to call me." I told him, "Oh come on!" "I got to know something!" He answered, "Well Gary, we had to pull your traps on the 2nd check day and replace them with the 1.5 coilspring traps." I asked, "What happened?!" He just slowly spoke, "The testers had a big problem with your traps." I just let out a "Oh nooo"

More to come....

Gary


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Re: 25 years ago, a new DP coon trap was introduced. [Re: Getrz] #8662898
09/17/26 07:10 PM
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Already caught the 20 contestants?, lol

Re: 25 years ago, a new DP coon trap was introduced. [Re: gcs] #8663066
09/17/26 11:30 PM
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"Sometimes fate, follows success." The testing of the Lil' Grizz came to a fast end. I knew word of the testing would get out. Just needed a bit more convincing.....

When the WV biologist told me the test trappers had problems with my traps and replaced them with the 1.5 coil springs, I couldn't help asking myself what I did wrong. When I asked that in a question to the WV biologist, he started laughing. He told me, "Gary, you're taking this the wrong way." "The testing of your trap went phenomenal." "The trappers had to pull your traps for a good reason." I had asked, "Why?" He continued, "We had 7 days to capture 20 coon in your traps for our goal." " The trappers caught all 20 coon using your traps in a day and a half." " The trappers were doubtful of your traps at the start of this testing, that changed fast while using them out in the field." "The trappers personally told me your trap is incredible." "From the setting procedures, baiting and set construction, they never seen a coon trap that can catch coon that fast!" "A request from the guys, they want to be able to purchase your traps if you decide to go into production." "Another request from me personally." "Could I have one of your traps for my collection?" I said sure and thanked him and the test trappers also. A little over a week later, my coon traps were returned minus one. Tim Reed called me and arranged to pick the traps up so he could do more testing here in MO and a few other states.

A couple weeks later, I was scrolling thru the Internet trapping forums, i came across a thread....New coon trap tested in West Virginia. Test results were starting to attract attention. Coon trappers were hearing of a revolutionary new coon trap in the works.

I needed no more convincing. It was time. The Lil' Grizz Get'rz has earned its name.

More to come....

Gary


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Re: 25 years ago, a new DP coon trap was introduced. [Re: gcs] #8663068
09/17/26 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gcs
Already caught the 20 contestants?, lol


100% correct!

Gary


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Re: 25 years ago, a new DP coon trap was introduced. [Re: Getrz] #8663333
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The new Ztrap is indeed bigger. Testing has been done to show it works well for ADC squirrel removal. Mink use when banks are frozen has been shown to be effective too. I can see where staking this in grass over hanging a bank trail, would keep domestics out of them.

Now, let’s get back to Gary’s story!!!

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Re: 25 years ago, a new DP coon trap was introduced. [Re: Teacher] #8663375
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This is the results of the coon BMP testing. The person in the picture pointing to the Lil' Grizz results was the late David Hamilton (1955 - 2007), there has never been a better advocate for trappers and trapping as well as the fur industry itself. RIP my friend.

Disregard the time stamp on the photo. These pics were taken in 2001.

More to come,

Gary

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Re: 25 years ago, a new DP coon trap was introduced. [Re: Getrz] #8663425
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Dave was a great guy


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