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Frog box disaster #8658878
09/10/26 05:40 PM
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I keep grass frogs for catfish bait. Keep a pan of water in it, keep it in the shade, leave a light inside all night to attract bugs and they will live all summer. Small frogs get bigger. Snake crawled in and ate one. Can't get out now.

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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8658883
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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8658886
09/10/26 05:53 PM
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I had a black rat snake do that years ago. It ate 3 young chukars from a nest box. I caught it and put it into a coon size cage trap. It looked like it was a triple link of sausage.

No way it could get out of that coon size trap as large as it was expanded with those chukars, as its girth was way larger then the 1" grid size on that trap.

I figured I was good for a few days holding that snake. I wanted to get a few photos for documentation. I went to get my camera.

That rat snake must have realized it couldnt fit thru the wire grid being all pigged out like it was. So it started to reguritate those chukars. When I came back to get a few photos it was just throwing up the last chukar and racing to get out that wire, and it did. This all happened in just a few minutes.

Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8658892
09/10/26 06:03 PM
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2 great stories!


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665297
09/22/26 11:36 AM
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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665301
09/22/26 11:41 AM
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You'll need 1/4" Hardware cloth

I love this story line.It's right up my alley

And bob I loved your story too


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665344
09/22/26 01:51 PM
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Found a massasauga rattle snake in it couple days ago. Dead frog but snake hadn't swallowed it yet. Snake took off through the 1/4 inch hail screen.


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665347
09/22/26 02:20 PM
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Cool story

Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665372
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https://www.savethebuzztails.org/species-accounts/western-massasauga-rattlesnake-

So far as I know no human has ever died after being bit by one. It is still serious. Destroys surrounding tissue, people get bad sick, infection is common. trip to the Dr is a good idea.


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665788
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Found a massasauga rattle snake in it couple days ago. Dead frog but snake hadn't swallowed it yet. Snake took off through the 1/4 inch hail screen.

How?


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665817
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Snakes like mice can get through a hole that is very small. It crawled through. A common name for massasauga is pygmy rattler. This one was smaller than the garter snake in the picture.


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665840
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Snakes like mice can get through a hole that is very small. It crawled through. A common name for massasauga is pygmy rattler. This one was smaller than the garter snake in the picture.

Thank you for the answer that's craziness


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665841
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Snakes will surprise ya. Took a buddy's nephew fishin with us one time- my buddy was deathly afraid of snakes and completely freaked out when his nephew took to using the dip net to seine out minnows and throw them to a water snake sitting on the bank. If the kid moved down the edge of the water 8 or 10 feet the snake would move the same 8 or 10ft.

It stayed the same distance from him and would sit there expectantly waiting like a dog would watch you opening a new bag of his dog food. Who'd a thunk a stupid snake would have done anything but slither into the water when it first saw the kid?

If I hadn't been there and someone told me that story I'd have thought they were full of it!


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: Leftlane] #8665848
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Snakes will surprise ya. Took a buddy's nephew fishin with us one time- my buddy was deathly afraid of snakes and completely freaked out when his nephew took to using the dip net to seine out minnows and throw them to a water snake sitting on the bank. If the kid moved down the edge of the water 8 or 10 feet the snake would move the same 8 or 10ft.

It stayed the same distance from him and would sit there expectantly waiting like a dog would watch you opening a new bag of his dog food. Who'd a thunk a stupid snake would have done anything but slither into the water when it first saw the kid?

If I hadn't been there and someone told me that story I'd have thought they were full of it!


Thats cool!

We were doing a shore lunch in NW Ont one time, my oldest daughter, 8-9 at the time saw a large snapping turtle under the water. She took a trout carcass over and started ripping it apart. In a few minuets she had the turtle taking pieces from her hand. A few years later when she was 11-12 I took her and a younger nephew on a multi portage adventure down a river in NW Ont. We stopped by a set of falls for me to clean fish and make lunch. She asked if she could have a walleye carcass and try to lure a turtle up. I asked if she saw a turtle, she said "no, I just wanna try." I said "sure, but this doesn't look much like turtle water." A few minutes later I heard a holler from my nephew over the roar of the falls. Sure enough, she was hand feeding another big snapper at the base of the falls. LOL

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Originally Posted by danny clifton
https://www.savethebuzztails.org/species-accounts/western-massasauga-rattlesnake-

So far as I know no human has ever died after being bit by one. It is still serious. Destroys surrounding tissue, people get bad sick, infection is common. trip to the Dr is a good idea.
BUT health professionals here tell.me that treating a rattlesnake bite is a 50,000 $ bill now. Insurance would probably cover most of that but why take a chance. I lose dogs and livestock every year to snake bite so they get no quarter

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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I keep grass frogs for catfish bait. Keep a pan of water in it, keep it in the shade, leave a light inside all night to attract bugs and they will live all summer. Small frogs get bigger. Snake crawled in and ate one. Can't get out now.

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Easy fix.

Cut it in two with a spade shovel. Both pieces will pull out easy.

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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I keep grass frogs for catfish bait. Keep a pan of water in it, keep it in the shade, leave a light inside all night to attract bugs and they will live all summer. Small frogs get bigger. Snake crawled in and ate one. Can't get out now.

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Easy fix.

Cut it in two with a spade shovel. Both pieces will pull out easy.

agreed


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665910
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
https://www.savethebuzztails.org/species-accounts/western-massasauga-rattlesnake-

So far as I know no human has ever died after being bit by one. It is still serious. Destroys surrounding tissue, people get bad sick, infection is common. trip to the Dr is a good idea.

They might want to expand the range of that map cuse we have them here.Also have Timber Rattlers.Both are protected in New york and your not supposed to kill them.

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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665912
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you likely have easterns not westerns


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Re: Frog box disaster [Re: danny clifton] #8665920
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
you likely have easterns not westerns

You are correct.They all look alike to me.If they rattle,I dont like them. smile

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