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Spirituality? #8674224
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wondering who here considers themselves "spiritual"...

although I was trained in a "hard science" (biology), I consider myself to be very spiritual, in nature.

I do not see a conflict between the two belief systems.

You?

Re: Spirituality? [Re: white marlin] #8674260
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I can see it, I don’t think I am in the sense of power……?

Re: Spirituality? [Re: white marlin] #8674263
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Re: Spirituality? [Re: white marlin] #8674297
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"Spiritual" is too broad of a term.


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Re: Spirituality? [Re: Giant Sage] #8674299
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
If you're born again you are spiritual according to Jesus. [Linked Image]
John 3:5-7

Spiritual isn't necessarily religious.

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Blessed are the poor in spirit: for their's is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:3[Linked Image]

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Re: Spirituality? [Re: waggler] #8674343
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Originally Posted by waggler
"Spiritual" is too broad of a term.


I deliberately left it so...

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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by waggler
"Spiritual" is too broad of a term.


I deliberately left it so...

What are the two belief systems you are speaking of?


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Re: Spirituality? [Re: white marlin] #8674348
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Being spiritual means a lot of different things to different people. Sufism and astral projection are both types of being spiritual, but neither has a born again meaning. With astral projection if it is self induced one is just traveling on his own. Saint Paul was taken to the third heaven but it was not of his own doing and to keep him humble he also had a thorn in the flesh. If once I decide any thing spiritual is good then I might decide to go on an self induced journey on the astral plane and find myself being cut off to wither. "Where a tree falls, there it lies" and cannot be undone.

When King Saul had come to his wits end he ran to the witch of Endor to seek council from Samuel which leaves room for a interpretations debate whether it was genuinely Samuel, a divine allowance, or a demonic deception. Being spiritual is not a license to practice what is Holy and Sacred.

Paganism could be said to be spiritual but its focus is on the creation and not the Creator.

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by white marlin
I deliberately left it so...

What are the two belief systems you are speaking of?


spiritual or not.

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Originally Posted by white marlin
wondering who here considers themselves "spiritual"...

although I was trained in a "hard science" (biology), I consider myself to be very spiritual, in nature.

I do not see a conflict between the two belief systems.

You?

you get a mix of people.

many of them believe in the the God of Abraham but they have been very turned off by organized religion and the many ways they have seen it exploited for power and profit. so they avoid Christian because they see it as a tainted name by the many people who call themselves that but seem to have very little in common with Jesus, some have variations of new and old testament beliefs blending them or taking on some others.

I don't see a conflict between nature , the natural world , Biology and Christianity those sciences are the discovery of creation and intelligent design.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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My spirit animal is the Opossum

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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
My spirit animal is the Opossum

Quando omni flunkus, moritati


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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When I was about 6 yrs old we had an old neighbor that was gravely ill. In those days doctors still made house calls. The Dr came out and our house was first, so he stopped and left his 4 yr girl for my mom to watch. I had a pair of cap pistols and her and me was playing cops and robbers. She shot me and I fell dead, I was still laying there playing dead when she comes running over and hits me on the head with that cap pistol in order to make sure I was finished off.
When Doc got back to our place I had a big knot on my head and he laughed after he checked me out and said he thought I would live.
The main disadvantage to playing dead is that someone may finish you off just to make sure, lol.

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(Spiritual or not.)
What would be the not Spiritual system?


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Re: Spirituality? [Re: Giant Sage] #8674510
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
(Spiritual or not.)
What would be the not Spiritual system?


that the physical world is all that exists.

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when I was grad school working on my MS in biology, I often quizzed my professors about knowing what was right and wrong - where did that "evolve"

Pure biology points to a Creator and his name is Jesus. The quicker we learn that, better off life will be. I do not consider myself spiritual, only born again and redeemed by the blood of Jesus.

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If we're talking about personality or personal motivations, then I definitely operate more from my intellectual side than my spiritual side, but I am certainly spiritual.

If we talking about worldview, then I think strict materialism has some serious metaphysical problems that it cannot explain away. None of us wants to live in a world that is merely material, and those that actually live as if matter and energy are all that exist are a danger to themselves and others. They are often jailed or institutionalized, or at least viewed as villains. I also think everyone is both spiritual and religious by default, even those that claim not to be. Most people that claim to believe in strict materialism do not live their lives in accordance with their claimed beliefs.

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Re: Spirituality? [Re: white marlin] #8674884
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I’m spiritual enough to wish that reincarnation was a thing. I’m not spiritual enough to think it is though.

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