Would deer meat tainted and bait solution be any good on canines and cats. Ive used bobcat meat and beaver in the past and it was fine.. Just found some freezer burnt deer meat and was wondering what kind of bait it would make.

I am not one of the folks you mention above and believe me I have asked ( and still bug them from time to time) questions of all of those kind folks as they know the game and are nice enough to help you out.
If legal I think it is hard to beat deer meat. Fresh (or in this case frozen) is great early and tainted with a good bait solution is great later.
Just trying to help.
Mac

I have never personally did any extensive testing on venison just because that would be illegal in Michigan and probably illegal to ship across state lines. However, many of the old-time coyote/wolf/bobcat bounty trappers from my area used chunks of tainted venison soaked in a solution of fox or coyote urine along with asafoedita, beaver castor and something sweet like anise oil or honey and some did quite well. Asa

The meat would work just fine I am sure.

I've heard from quite a few trappers who used venison in Bait Solution and did very well with it.

It works great for cats, but I prefer it fresh, with the hair on...

Drive by most any roadkill deer in cat country and you will see where a cat has pulled hair on it... on the rump or flank area...

You dang ol peg legged Sir osipher, what do you think coyotes eat? Your up to no good again aren't you? You been catching coyotes, and a lot of them for quite awhile already, so what are you trying to do by asking such a basic question? Sneakey old cop ya are Sir osipher! Bored today and just picking on general populace again? No wonder they broke your knee so they could slow you down! You know good a well that deer is probably the staple food of coyotes nation wide. You trying to sneak a bait recipe like you did from Asa? Oh your sneaky Sir Osipher! lol

He is clever like most trappers are Slim, he slipped that bait formula right out of me by playin' Columbo, LOL! Asa

Correct me if I am wrong but it seems to me that most any meat would work.When you add a bait solution the odor that is most noticeable is the solution itsself, The meat is mostly a carrier for the solution odor.You could likely mix up a paste from flour or corn meal and do the same thing.I understand that the partiular base may add a small odor of it's own but he predominate odor would still be the bait solution.

Correct me if I am wrong but it seems to me that most any meat would work.When you add a bait solution the odor that is most noticeable is the solution itsself, The meat is mostly a carrier for the solution odor.You could likely mix up a paste from flour or corn meal and do the same thing.I understand that the partiular base may add a small odor of it's own but he predominate odor would still be the bait solution.

Going back to the "freezer burnt" portion of Sturgills question, whats the train of thought on freezer burnt meat as bait?

Good question Calvin,I wouldn't want to risk my trapline success with freezer brrned meat. Who know what that peculiar unnatural odor might do.

Spur: Even if one is predominating a meat species with the bait solution the type of meat makes a great deal of difference. So-called experts on canines say that canines can separate and analyze multiple odors individually. I believe this is true as from experimentation I have always noted that the more ingredients in a lure the longer the canine stays at the set. A good lure in my opinion is one with many ingredients formulated in the right amounts so that none predominate but yet canines can separate them. As for meat types, nothing I have tested outperforms bobcat and mutton. I have been told by many Western trappers that horse meat is equal with the above but my area isn't horse country where it would be natural so I never give it a try. I have tried other meat like raccoon and not even one animal species even touched it. Asa

I never really cared for using deer meat for bait etc. ... always felt better was available

freezer burnt meat has a very distinct odor ? who knows ?

yes, many a predator survives on deer flesh ... another reason to offer them something different at times ... that ol' yote might have just left a deer carcass with a full belly ... then passes by your set baited with deer ... he may briefly work, pass it up all together or who knows even get caught but if that same coyote trots past your set bated with something different, say beaver or muskrat meat he might be far more intrigued to work your set longer and closer although he's just satisfied his hunger with deer ... just some brain farting but something for ya to think about



the fact that you aren't in "horse country" should have little or no impact on it's effectiveness ... if anything it will/should add yet another dimension of curiousity to your bait ... this goes for just about any or all non native bait/lure concoctions

Wouldn't likely have any availabilty of dead horses to use as bait in my country possum skinner. That is the main reason I never tried it, no sense starting something that I can't carry on anyway should it prove to be good. Asa

I have used freezer burnt deer meat with a good bait solutions on it in every state that I have ever trapped in, and that covers most of the USA. Never had any problems with refusals.

This time of the year the annual migration of the orange breasted doo doo birds are moving through the woods, killing, and crippling deer daily. There are loads of ofal piles, and deer meat scattered about everywhere in woods or rough country. No it is not freezer burnt, but it becomes a very important part of predator meat supply.

Good bait solutions, just enhance the odor of the meat it was applied to, and keeps it from freezing or tainting more. Applied with a bit of taint on meat, it becomes louder and stronger odor than the original tainted meat, because it will not freeze, the odors carry better on freezing nights and days.

Spur - "When you add a bait solution the odor that is most noticeable is the solution itsself, The meat is mostly a carrier for the solution odor."

I make two different baits using my bait solution. One is called Beaver Medley and has slightly tainted beaver meat and my bait solution. The other is called Bobcat Medley and has slightly tainted bobcat meat and my bait solution.

These two baits smell completely different, and the only difference is the meat. So, in my baits soaked in my bait solution, the meat does make a difference.

Yepper I did Tracy, thanks. Fixed it.

Aint it cute how this new upgrade allows me to turn a certain word, or phrase into a link regardless of who types it? I like these new bells and whistles, but will take me some time to figure them all out.

I think that would be classified as a "broken link" - lol.

If 'ya don't mind my asking Paul...which bait sells best the bobcat or beaver???
Personally, I never thought beaver meat as bait was anything to write home about compared to bobcat. Asa

They are about equal in sales. Some swear by the beaver, some swear by the bobcat, and some like using both. Sales of both have been increasing a lot over the past couple of years.