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WAXING -Canning Wax-Is it all the same for traps? #988063
11/13/08 07:46 PM
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Is there any difference in the wax one would buy at a walmart for canning, vs. from a trap supplier?

I am running very low on it, and am in a rush to get the wax on the traps.

Thanks,
Chris

Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: stitchit] #988070
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You could use it but would need to add some Rosin to it.


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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: stitchit] #988075
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Fill your wax pot up with canning paraffin wax. It has worked for me with 55 years of trap preparation on my resume' spiked with one part of refined beeswax to 4-5 parts paraffin to avoid flaking.

You do not have to go that far right now, add the canning wax and you will be just fine, and good to go without worry.

It is all paraffin, including unscented candle wax and the soy based waxes.

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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: Jonathan] #988099
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Yup, GULF canning paraffin. 1 oz. rosin to 10 lbs of wax. Just add a couple of lbs every year or so, and rosin maybe every 5. My wax pot is at least 15 yrs old. It is so dark I wouldn't even have to dye 'em.

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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: coop] #988101
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Been waxing traps for over 30 years with just gulf canning wax without the addition of rosin with no problems


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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: itrapny] #988110
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Then I stand corrected. Plain canning wax works. No rosin needed.
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: bic] #988147
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I buy my wax at Hobby Lobby in 10 pound blocks and added a toilet bowl ring (new of course) to the first 30 pounds and have been very happy wiht the results.

The toilet bowl ring is a softer wax and seems to make the candle wax a bit less flakey much the same as the rosen will.

Rosen is avalable at the bowling alley.

No matter what you use for wax; The most importand thing is to allow the trap to get as hot as the wax before removing it. This assures an even thin coat of wax. if it is milky looking when it dries it was pulled too soon. The trap should look wet when it cools not waxy looking.

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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: bic] #988151
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I used gulf wax this yr but had a cople lbs a reg black trap wax get it to 200+ degrees in a double boiler and its a fine coat when ya take them out.


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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: RayA] #988303
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Rosin will help that wax quite a bit...no bee's wax or toilet bowl rings for my traps though...never.


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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: bad karma] #988414
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DO NOT USE SOY WAX. If you do you are headed for problems down the road. odor and rusting when it breaks down.
Soy wax is not paraffin. It is a wax made by blending Soy oil with steric acid.

Jelly wax or canning wax is a low melt parafin wax that has large crystels. It will flake off by itself. It is OK to blend with other waxes (not soy)


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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: Horn] #988545
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Originally Posted By: Horn
I buy my wax at Hobby Lobby in 10 pound blocks and added a toilet bowl ring (new of course) to the first 30 pounds and have been very happy wiht the results.

The toilet bowl ring is a softer wax and seems to make the candle wax a bit less flakey much the same as the rosen will.

Rosen is avalable at the bowling alley.

No matter what you use for wax; The most importand thing is to allow the trap to get as hot as the wax before removing it. This assures an even thin coat of wax. if it is milky looking when it dries it was pulled too soon. The trap should look wet when it cools not waxy looking.
is it cheaper doing ti that way?


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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: mr. finch] #988671
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Yep hobby lobby is the cheapest place to get it too. $15 for 10#
I got a 8qt stock pot at big lots and worked perfectly. I just sat it on my wood stove to melt it. I found that setting the traps up on the edge of the stove heated the traps up enough to where it took alot less time to get the traps up to temp. you could look in the pot and see the trap change colors from white back to the steel color worked slick could do 2-3 #3 montanas at a time.

Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: NWMO] #988708
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Ron, Thank you for that clarification. I am not a polymer research chemist, but do know that soy wax is made from hydrogenated soybean oil - a different process than wax made from petroleum distillates.

However, I was under the impression that soy wax was put up as a blend with paraffin in it - did not think it was made and sold as "pure" soy wax.

When I see the term: "blended soy wax," does that simply mean that the blend part is merely steric acid and no other ingredients?

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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: Jonathan] #988817
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If you buy wax at Hobby Lobby look in your Sunday paper or go to the Hobby Lobby web site and get thier coupon for 40% off. You can get one ten pound block for $9.00.

Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: coolstucco] #988836
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thats not a bad price at all right there


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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: mr. finch] #989032
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps? [Re: stitchit] #989376
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NWMO I too found that preheating my traps gives me a better wax job. Seems to penetrate better. I lay mine on a metal barrel lid over the fire working out side with the wax and dye.

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