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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: stitchit]
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11/13/08 07:50 PM
11/13/08 07:50 PM
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You could use it but would need to add some Rosin to it.
Life always offers a second chance.
It's called Tomorrow
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: stitchit]
#988075
11/13/08 07:56 PM
11/13/08 07:56 PM
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Northwestern New York(Elder)
Jonathan
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Fill your wax pot up with canning paraffin wax. It has worked for me with 55 years of trap preparation on my resume' spiked with one part of refined beeswax to 4-5 parts paraffin to avoid flaking.
You do not have to go that far right now, add the canning wax and you will be just fine, and good to go without worry.
It is all paraffin, including unscented candle wax and the soy based waxes.
Jonathan
Camera Gear: Canon EOS 7D-MK-II, Canon EF-S 10-22mm, EF 28-135mm, EF 100-400mm and EF 400mm lenses.
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: Jonathan]
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11/13/08 08:04 PM
11/13/08 08:04 PM
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coop
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Yup, GULF canning paraffin. 1 oz. rosin to 10 lbs of wax. Just add a couple of lbs every year or so, and rosin maybe every 5. My wax pot is at least 15 yrs old. It is so dark I wouldn't even have to dye 'em.
Last edited by coop; 11/13/08 08:04 PM. Reason: sp
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: itrapny]
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11/13/08 08:08 PM
11/13/08 08:08 PM
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Central Pa. 62
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"Mr. Sensitivity"
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"Mr. Sensitivity"
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Then I stand corrected. Plain canning wax works. No rosin needed.
"an old dog learned something new"
Life always offers a second chance.
It's called Tomorrow
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: bic]
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11/13/08 08:22 PM
11/13/08 08:22 PM
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Beaman Iowa 55
Mike Cope
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I buy my wax at Hobby Lobby in 10 pound blocks and added a toilet bowl ring (new of course) to the first 30 pounds and have been very happy wiht the results.
The toilet bowl ring is a softer wax and seems to make the candle wax a bit less flakey much the same as the rosen will.
Rosen is avalable at the bowling alley.
No matter what you use for wax; The most importand thing is to allow the trap to get as hot as the wax before removing it. This assures an even thin coat of wax. if it is milky looking when it dries it was pulled too soon. The trap should look wet when it cools not waxy looking.
Last edited by Horn; 11/13/08 08:26 PM.
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: bic]
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11/13/08 08:23 PM
11/13/08 08:23 PM
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odessa Mo.
RayA
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I used gulf wax this yr but had a cople lbs a reg black trap wax get it to 200+ degrees in a double boiler and its a fine coat when ya take them out.
I dont suffer from Insanity i enjoy every minute of it.
Citified Mo Trappers Ed Instructor
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: RayA]
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11/13/08 09:09 PM
11/13/08 09:09 PM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
bad karma
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Rosin will help that wax quite a bit...no bee's wax or toilet bowl rings for my traps though...never.
Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: bad karma]
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11/13/08 09:44 PM
11/13/08 09:44 PM
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PA Venango Co.
Ron Marsh
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DO NOT USE SOY WAX. If you do you are headed for problems down the road. odor and rusting when it breaks down.
Soy wax is not paraffin. It is a wax made by blending Soy oil with steric acid.
Jelly wax or canning wax is a low melt parafin wax that has large crystels. It will flake off by itself. It is OK to blend with other waxes (not soy)
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: Mike Cope]
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11/13/08 10:24 PM
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mr. finch
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I buy my wax at Hobby Lobby in 10 pound blocks and added a toilet bowl ring (new of course) to the first 30 pounds and have been very happy wiht the results.
The toilet bowl ring is a softer wax and seems to make the candle wax a bit less flakey much the same as the rosen will.
Rosen is avalable at the bowling alley.
No matter what you use for wax; The most importand thing is to allow the trap to get as hot as the wax before removing it. This assures an even thin coat of wax. if it is milky looking when it dries it was pulled too soon. The trap should look wet when it cools not waxy looking. is it cheaper doing ti that way?
i live and work in this city but am truly alive on this river......tom burns
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: NWMO]
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11/13/08 11:32 PM
11/13/08 11:32 PM
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Northwestern New York(Elder)
Jonathan
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Ron, Thank you for that clarification. I am not a polymer research chemist, but do know that soy wax is made from hydrogenated soybean oil - a different process than wax made from petroleum distillates.
However, I was under the impression that soy wax was put up as a blend with paraffin in it - did not think it was made and sold as "pure" soy wax.
When I see the term: "blended soy wax," does that simply mean that the blend part is merely steric acid and no other ingredients?
Jonathan
Camera Gear: Canon EOS 7D-MK-II, Canon EF-S 10-22mm, EF 28-135mm, EF 100-400mm and EF 400mm lenses.
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Re: Canning Wax- - Is it all the same for traps?
[Re: coolstucco]
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11/14/08 12:19 AM
11/14/08 12:19 AM
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kansas
mr. finch
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thats not a bad price at all right there
i live and work in this city but am truly alive on this river......tom burns
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