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Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7464781
01/18/22 02:13 PM
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This is correct. Fast snares with aggressive locks help a lot too. We snare over 90% of our beaver around the neck but our snares are set where the beaver are walking at the very edge of the water, not out in the water. The few that aren't caught by the neck are generally kits. I have not used kill springs on them but some are dead if they get entangled or jump over a creek bank from a higher trail. We use an 8" loop set 4" off the ground as a rule of thumb, of course that varies some as situations change.
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do you have a photo of the traps set up?

Re: Different snare lock [Re: KOSOI] #7464852
01/18/22 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KOSOI
do you have a photo of the traps set up?


Best I can do...

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Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7464866
01/18/22 04:13 PM
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thanks

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Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7464987
01/18/22 06:07 PM
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Here is some info on the set we use. We use it to bridge hop in the spring for traveling beaver. We don't even look for sign as long as the creek is large enough to hold beaver.

Dig a trench into the waters edge, slightly angled down stream if there is current, 8" to a foot deep and about 8" wide. Then lure as you see in the picture, rarely use any kind of mound.

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I made this lightweight tool from an old shovel to dig the trench, but you could use a big hoe or something...

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Here's how it digs, only takes a minute or two...




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Hope that helps someone.

Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7465443
01/18/22 11:22 PM
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this is very useful information for me

Re: Different snare lock [Re: KOSOI] #7465488
01/19/22 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by KOSOI
this is very useful information for me


That is great. I really enjoy helping out where I can. I never thought I'd be helping fellow trappers in Russia but I am glad to do it.

Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7465521
01/19/22 12:43 AM
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That is great. I really enjoy helping out where I can. I never thought I'd be helping fellow trappers in Russia but I am glad to do it. [/quote]
if it's not difficult for you to write me a private message, there are a few questions about snare drums. I can't start the conversation first

Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7465561
01/19/22 02:49 AM
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I sent you a private message.

Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7465795
01/19/22 11:28 AM
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Thanks ADC!


Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
Re: Different snare lock [Re: Yukon John] #7466562
01/19/22 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
Thanks ADC!


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Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7468892
01/22/22 09:54 AM
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I will never use slim locks for coyote again. They aren’t very reliable for a quick kill. Usually still alive and have bad jelly head. The set is usually tore up good too. Micro lock with compression spring works good for me

Re: Different snare lock [Re: Bruiser1] #7468908
01/22/22 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruiser1
I will never use slim locks for coyote again. They aren’t very reliable for a quick kill. Usually still alive and have bad jelly head. The set is usually tore up good too. Micro lock with compression spring works good for me

Completely opposite here. I hate micros with a passion on coyotes. Course we cant use dispatch springs.

Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7468986
01/22/22 11:42 AM
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Yes, the use of a dispatch spring is ABSOLUTLY NECESSARY to make the micro lock an effective dispatch lock.


The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.






Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7469091
01/22/22 02:01 PM
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Re the above I always used a 3/32 size micro lock on 5/64th 1X19 cable. A very effective dispatch set up in my experience when used in a timber situation and tied off High.

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Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7473376
01/26/22 12:07 AM
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Before I'd use a Micro lock, I'd quit snaring ! laugh

Re: Different snare lock [Re: LT GREY] #7473831
01/26/22 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LT GREY
Before I'd use a Micro lock, I'd quit snaring ! laugh
Well they have work very well for me in providing quick dispatchs when set up as I described within timbered areas. No jugheads, very little site disturbance and often dead at end of snare with litle or no entanglement. [Linked Image]
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Re: Different snare lock [Re: ~ADC~] #7473956
01/26/22 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TC1
Couple things, if you are trying to be less lethal because you are close to domestics or town, don’t snare there! That and three day checks and snaring comes with complications that others have already addressed. Either way seems like a hard pass, unless there are reasons that you have not shared with us yet. Poor strategies utilizing snares have led to many states altering or outlawing snaring.

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Originally Posted by skunkscent99
Howdy,

I am in a spot where I need to use a less aggressive style of snare than I normally run. My normal snares are 1/16th 1x19 senneker cams with kill springs and triggers. I was thinking about going with either slim locks or micro locks and going up to 5/64 cable. I am going up in cable just because of the chance of a live coyote on a 3 day check. Any body have any experience running these for coyotes. Seems like I heard tell of people not using 1x19 with these locks and saying 7x7 made them close quicker or am I just mis remembering like normal?

Thanks guys


I'd like to help but I can't figure out what you are hoping to accomplish.

There are two styles of snares essentially, snares designed to kill whatever they catch ASAP, and snares aka cable restraints that are designed to hold the animals alive until the trapper gets there to release or dispatch it. Both designs rely on the placement of the snare ie. entanglement or not, and snare length as well as anchoring.


Re: Different snare lock [Re: KOSOI] #7473967
01/26/22 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KOSOI



I don’t speak Russian so I can’t follow those links. I have only found two ways to lethally snare beaver, and they both rely on water. Either securing a snare to a typical submersion rig or by using entanglement. With entanglement, it has been my experience that you can accomplish this with shallower water. For entanglement, you want something they’re going to wrap and tangle up on, so while you could fashion something in the field if you’re creative, I generally choose to bring something premade with me. I like 1/2” rebar with a crosspiece welded to it. The crosspiece goes as deep as possible as long as there’s at least a foot or so clearance so that they can swim underneath—Very important. This setup is basically like some coyote killpoles, but I also add a couple features for my own personal needs. The principle is sound. They wrap up and are unable to reach the surface. These are valuable tools for damage control beaver work.

Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7473989
01/26/22 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Aix sponsa
Originally Posted by KOSOI



I don’t speak Russian so I can’t follow those links. I have only found two ways to lethally snare beaver, and they both rely on water. Either securing a snare to a typical submersion rig or by using entanglement. With entanglement, it has been my experience that you can accomplish this with shallower water. For entanglement, you want something they’re going to wrap and tangle up on, so while you could fashion something in the field if you’re creative, I generally choose to bring something premade with me. I like 1/2” rebar with a crosspiece welded to it. The crosspiece goes as deep as possible as long as there’s at least a foot or so clearance so that they can swim underneath—Very important. This setup is basically like some coyote killpoles, but I also add a couple features for my own personal needs. The principle is sound. They wrap up and are unable to reach the surface. These are valuable tools for damage control beaver work.

Thank you. almost everything is clear. but it would be nice to see a photo. wink

Re: Different snare lock [Re: skunkscent99] #7474167
01/26/22 06:45 PM
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Kosio, I believe this is what you are looking for....... Marty uses his own Senneker spring and his trigger that you posted. The Bridger spring works the same way as Marty's spring.

https://youtu.be/r_so7B8lEwg

I also see that this video was posted earlier in this thread by Wolfdog91.

Last edited by QuietButDeadly; 01/26/22 06:54 PM.

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