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Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8434536
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And then ol' Martin Luther, the problem Chile, he gets royally ticked at the church corruption and nails 95 complaints to the church door. Which made the big shots kick him out. But the common folk were like "High five, bro!"....and that's why there are Baptists, although the pentencols eat in a different social hall after the split about pot roast vs fried chicken.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Skinner those offerings are probably still happening today. A dear old friend of mine maybe 20 years ago made an offering for prayer for his wife who had recently past. It was the first I had ever heard of praying for the dead, purgatory, or paying an offerings for your loved ones who had passed on.
This was one of the first things that really got me to questioning the catholic church traditions.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8434562
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There you go Savell. For only $200, per ancestor of course, you can get your ancestors a golden ticket to Heaven.

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Originally Posted by J Staton
There you go Savell. For only $200, per ancestor of course, you can get your ancestors a golden ticket to Heaven.

Don't forget inflation but if it's a 501c3 you should be good on taxes.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8434566
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Which religion does not say the creator of everything always needs more money?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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That would be the Jesus religion. Luke 9:3

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Thats funny J Staton


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Originally Posted by J Staton
That would be the Jesus religion. Luke 9:3

Yes,
Jesus said to be his disciple you must sell all that you have, give it to the poor and follow him.
I don't think he was saying give it to a religious organization.
He was speaking to a man that had claimed to have kept the whole law thinking he was perfect.
And Jesus was showing him that he had not reach perfection. No one can.
No one ever has but Jesus.


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Now I go to church but I do like the AC on a Sunday in July. While it may not be necessary for spreading the Good News, this fat boy don't mind contributing to the "comfort cause". lol

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Originally Posted by J Staton
Now I go to church but I do like the AC on a Sunday in July. While it may not be necessary for spreading the Good News, this fat boy don't mind contributing to the "comfort cause". lol

Blessed are the poor in spirit.
AC is a blessing. You contributed.
You sacrificed for the comfort of others.
I'm sure the doors of your church building are open to the poor.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: danny clifton] #8434587
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Which religion does not say the creator of everything always needs more money?


J Staton is right, danny. Jesus didn't keep the money for Himself; He wanted people to give their wealth all to the poor.

and you and Jesus have something in common: He railed against the hypocritical religious leaders of His day, too!

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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Which religion does not say the creator of everything always needs more money?


J Staton is right, danny. Jesus didn't keep the money for Himself; He wanted people to give their wealth all to the poor.

and you and Jesus have something in common: He railed against the hypocritical religious leaders of His day, too!

Amen to that.


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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Which religion does not say the creator of everything always needs more money?


J Staton is right, danny. Jesus didn't keep the money for Himself; He wanted people to give their wealth all to the poor.

and you and Jesus have something in common: He railed against the hypocritical religious leaders of His day, too!


That kinda leads to another thought. Was the uncle Joseph of Arimathea, which was a tin trader and wealthy, financing Jesus. Joseph did donate his own tomb for burial of Jesus. But in a sense that was no big deal because he only needed it for the weekend.
There is a song about that "He'll Only Need For The Weekend" by Leroy Blankenship.

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What did Jesus need financed? He walked every where and stayed with people who were hospitable. His and the disciples ministry didn't seem to have many expenses. Especially when five fish can feed five thousand people.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
What did Jesus need financed? He walked every where and stayed with people who were hospitable. His and the disciples ministry didn't seem to have many expenses. Especially when five fish can feed five thousand people.


That's an interesting thought, especially if you need tax money just catch a fish and get it out of his mouth. But then I think the group must have had a consolidated pot for something, otherwise why did they need a treasurer ?

Jesus and his uncle must have been close especially in his younger days of travel to Cornwall, etc.

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Back in those days being homeless or close to being so was more acceptable than it is today. They had a treasury that they used to help the poor when the situtation called for that or they had the funds for doing so.


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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Skinner those offerings are probably still happening today. A dear old friend of mine maybe 20 years ago made an offering for prayer for his wife who had recently past. It was the first I had ever heard of praying for the dead, purgatory, or paying an offerings for your loved ones who had passed on.
This was one of the first things that really got me to questioning the catholic church traditions.

I don't see the harm in offering a prayer. And yes, it's still a thing. If you don't believe the prayer does anything, then so what.

Offering money so the Church can build a basilica, on the other hand, is definitely a recipe for corruption. On this, at least, the modern Church agrees that Martin Luther had a point.

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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Skinner those offerings are probably still happening today. A dear old friend of mine maybe 20 years ago made an offering for prayer for his wife who had recently past. It was the first I had ever heard of praying for the dead, purgatory, or paying an offerings for your loved ones who had passed on.
This was one of the first things that really got me to questioning the catholic church traditions.

I don't see the harm in offering a prayer. And yes, it's still a thing. If you don't believe the prayer does anything, then so what.

Offering money so the Church can build a basilica, on the other hand, is definitely a recipe for corruption. On this, at least, the modern Church agrees that Martin Luther had a point.

Sorry, I should have been more specific, it was a monetary payment offering. I understand praying for the dead.
And I certainly understand why peaple would. Paying for prayer on the other hand. If peaple believe in that sort of thing them more power to them. I make fun of most religions, but not to jest, just to get peaple to think outside the box. All religious denominations have flaws. We as peaple are not flawless. I'm an independent chicken eatin bible thumpin baptist, and I don't really like chicken all that much.


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