Beaver - 2009 Under Ice Beaver - any VIDEOS?
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Making a main thread on a different animal was suggested on a different thread because of the huge success of the 2008 Weasel Thread which has a copious amount of information.
If anyone has pictures, videos, questions, or want to add anything we could help out many folks who seem stumped when trying this style of trapping. Snaring underice is an exciting way of taking these critters too.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I have some underice beaver sets out, baited snares along with some 330's in runs or supposed runs. I struggle big time with finding these runs. Any pictures of run locations around house especially flowages with alot of dead trees and snow would be great. The few years that we have good ice before snow is alot easier because of the bubbles but with snow it seems like I punch hole after hole looking for hard runs with little success.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Looking forward to your pics Slick! Ice and snow slows everything way down Bob. I wish I had a snowmobile so I could get around easier, but I am on foot and snowshoes. It makes for great excersise!!
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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One of the Best sets I've used... Especially Mid-Winter is the White PVC "feed" set...
Hang the 330 or 660 by two wires just below the Ice about a Foot or so... trigger on the bottom with a 6-7" piece of 3/4" White PVC drilled and slid onto the trigger wires, triggers bent sideways after the PVC is added...
Twist the wires around the Long stick which spans the Ice hole(near a feedbed) and lower the trap into the water...Make Sure that the Trap is cabled or wired with a separate wire/cable and up through the hole to the stick... When the Beaver swims around the feedpile it sees the White PVC and thinks its food... and WhaMO one dead beaver...
Usually 2-3 feed sets are added at each active Feed Pile edge...
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Wrap that piece of pipe on the bottom jaw with wire and you'll get more beav. Tighten your trigger up really close and move to the side as far as you can.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I have tried that, and prefer the trigger loaded with the White PVC on the Bottom... That way the Whole Opening is available for them to swim through...I'll take pics later...
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I need to use those 2 sets, Mole and 330, at a few of mine! I have a slow flowing river location that is puzzling me with finding the runs. These sets sound perfect!!!
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I have tried mostly suspending the trap with wires, don't have much experience with poles. Wires can always be used regardless of water depth, and the trap has some play so the beaver is not tied down to an immovable pole which can cause rubs. See you at the meeting Scott.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Hi madtrapper, Thanks for the reply, the one thing I forgot to ask about was does the suspended beaver float up to the ice and freeze to it? There must be another Scott W on here. I'm from Northeast Iowa. Would love to come up to the meeting (in Isle?) but have to milk (goat dairy). Scott
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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on average, would you say you catch more kits and/or smaller beaver with under the ice feed sets? it certainly seemed that way for me.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I use pretty much the same set as mole.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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chopping the hole isnt really that bad because i have to chop it that way anyway. most all of my beaver are 50 pounds and bigger but i do notice a size difference the closer i get to the lodge, and after i set the pole under water i wire a cross pole to the pole on top of the ice so they cant pull it under.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Mole,
I use a set very similar to yours, I just have the trigger centered on top and the wires bent like a small coathanger to give the beaver maximum room to work on the bait. My former trapping partner cuts his triggers off at about 2 inches for this set. I would rather bend them out of the way and change the configuration for different uses. With 330's I get a good shoulder or head catch with 280's I get all head catches. 220's are a little small unless you cut the trigger wires almost off.
I tried with bait on the triggers on bottom but had about 30% misses, when I put the bait between the jaws and the triggers on top I never had another miss.
I use 2 or three of these sets to a house. I also set lots of snares in their runs, up to 10 or more per run, kind of like a "gill net" for beaver. Swivel snares with a 10-11 inch loop hung from a pole on the ice with doubled tie wire. I set the snares on the very bottom of the runs, unless in a floating bog situation, (can't find the runs, or bottom) then I use only conibear bait sets.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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MartenMan, I have better luck with my feed sets and Trapping the Adults if the sets are out a little ways along the Main DAM...
The Adults usually venture out each Night to check on the Dam and almost always I have the larger ones within 3 days...
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I use a chain saw to cut my holes about 16"x16" or 20"x20" this gives plenty of room to put snare pole down like fisher-usmc has shown. In deep water I will put four snares to a baited pole, two low on bottom then two about 12" below the ice. When you set your snares do so at the 11:oo position with a 10" loop this prevents most of the time from them falling down and the 10"loop should keep small guy's out of snare. But when you lower pole in the hole you can reset snare if it falls, just slowly lower pole when doing so, should not trip, you learn to get the hang out it after a few times doing it.
I only set by, outside and around depending on pond etc.. food pile with baite pole snare and by dams. Be carfule by dam, ice can be tricky and get wet a$$. I blitz set a pond, set sometimes 6-8 baite pole set's. I do not mess with run's. Check once a week and pull out within 2 weeks. I cover the hole with feed bag or boughs then shovel snow on top, this prevents ice from getting to thick to chop out on check day and keeps beav from getting on the ice. Normaly 1'-2" of ice to chop to check set, sometimes just scim ice, this is at below o temps.
I use snow-shoes and some of my ponds are a 1/2 mile in or so. I do it for the love of it and the joy of it. Ya the cash is nice but never enough for time and labor that goes with beav trapping.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Fisher,
How do you hold the snares next to the bait. Do you have a closeup pic of it?
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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most of the time you need to use a support wire but the snares i use are made for beaver, they open to ten inches so when i wire them to the pole i wire them really tight, all you have to do is move the snare up or down to where you want it, no need for support wire on thses snares just wirethem tight to the pole
Birds dont fly without my permission Love is the delightful interval between meeting a beautiful girl and discovering that she looks like a haddock.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Anyone,
How can you tell if you have trapped all of the beaver out of a pond when trapping under the ice?
Thanks, mntrapper
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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not really sure but i would chop a decent size hole at te entrence and when it has a fresh glaze of ice look for bubbles, thats the only thing i can think of
Birds dont fly without my permission Love is the delightful interval between meeting a beautiful girl and discovering that she looks like a haddock.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I plan on taking a few more videos today on the line. It is -26 here with an extra 12 inches of snow so I don't know it I will get out there today or not.
It is foolish to go out in this weather without someone with.
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One way to know if there are still beaver in the pond is to cut a small hole or two in the ice and shove some green popple sticks down into the water, come back a few days later and check to see if they are cut off.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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ok does any body have any pics of a 330 set up with the pvc for bait? and would it work with the ny trigger restrictions?
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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bmead, I'll post a picture of the PVC setup tomorrow morning, Happy New Year!
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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330,
I looking forward to seeing your pics! I want to see if I can improve the setups I made from the info on here.
I too will try to tape my traps setup with PVC and Aspen. I have them setup on our pool table now ready for taping.
I love this info that is coming out on underice sets!!!!!
Does anyone else have pics or videos of sets with traps or snares??
Rally, Are you out there??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I would be interested in seeing under ice beaver poles set with foot holds. pictures would be appreciated
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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http://icwdm.org/handbook/rodents/ro_b1.pdf Here's a Good link for Beginning Trappers... it is worth downloading the Manual, and it shows Clear Set diagrams... I've had the paper manual for 23 years...or one just like it...
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Here is a new video of baited 330 sets. These are similar to "330"'s pics. Baited 330 conibears
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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thank you conibear 1 i like that video ny has trigger restrictions that kinda restrict how imaginative i could get but the set with the pvc wired to the bottom should work great thank you, and keep the rest of this info rolling very very helpful Brandon
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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jordan it may be a muskrat tripping and chewin the potatoe they like them too. i have used pvc, aspen/poplar, corn cob, potatoe, thay all work but i do find a few fired traps and no matter what it is for bait i find the fall and spring are better. where as the dead of winter the runs with a 330 work the best.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Here is a snare setup that I'm putting in tomorrow if the weather cooperates. Under Ice snare Setup
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Who uses under water fishing cameras to check sets? I know fellows do for bucket otter sets in 20 feet of water. beaver? I've never used my Aquaview to check traps. But, I have used it to find the entrances to houses so I could set my traps in the right place.
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going to set/check under ice right now, will be back tonight with pics and hopefully a video
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Kre,
Awesome idea!! Sometimes it is too deep for my waders to feel the bottom of the run.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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here are the pics as promised. i had my baited snare poles out and 1 baited 330 like mole had with the aspen wired to the jaw i ended up with 18 beaver 17 on snare pole and the 330 i set had a small one. first time i tried the 330 set, i like it but chipping around the wires is kind of a pain. snare poles around the feed pile same lodge with beaver from snare pole different lodge with 2 snare poles and a baited (wired to jaw) 330 small beaver in the baited set viedo of me loosing my ice chisel
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Nice pics!!! I like how you show your sets in relation to the feedbed! What a crazy thing to do!! You are awesome!! That is the best vid in awhile!!
If you are thinking negative, instead of positive....Change the Channel! You'll end up with more energy and more fur in the back of the truck!
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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new update I set 4 lodges, each with 2 snare poles and 2 330's baited with it hanging from the spring with wire like moles, 2 days check resulted in 1 beaver from every lodge, 3 beaver in snare pole, 5 snare poles-snares knocked down, and 1 beaver in a baited 330. not sure why this was but i will say reguardless of the outcome i like the 330, easy to set, check, and the loose ice in the hole doesnt effet it, they dont knock down like snares. i will continue to use 2 of each at each lodge
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Fisher-usmc... just give the White PVC on the trigger a try... you will be pleasantly supprised...look at the pics above..
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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not sure reggie, like i mentioned i set 4 sets per lodge, always find 1 beaver on one of the sets on a 2 day check. good to see your from maine also, good luck.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Reggie, Beavers seem to come out with or without much distrubance in experience. No matter what, the time seems to how fast they find your baited set.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Here's a few pics of some under-ice beaver trapping. Here's an active bank den. Viewing from across the stream. Notice the feed pile and bubble trail between the feed pile and shoreline. Another view from standing on top the den: Here's a feeder den located about 100 yards upstream. Notice peeled sticks near the entrance. These are often much easier to set as they are typically shallower than main dens or lodge entrances: Pic of a 45-pounder in a 330. Check out that cute face looking through the ice: Beaver shown in previous pic. Always use dead sticks to stabilize the traps. Beavers will stop and chew the stakes if green:
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Fisher-usmc, I don't know why you bother using snares and traps when you could probably just go under the ice and grab 'em. Very informative post guys...good ideas and pictorials. I'm pretty sure I would be seeking alternative methods for chisel retrieval, however!
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I have a spot that looks similar to yours Ron. I heading there the next chance I get.
Well...the den and feedbed looks the same except I have 6" of ice on the river and 18" of snow....lol..
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Dale,
You make a good point. How do beavers work the bait on an underice set?
Maybe some snarer's have a better idea about this.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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slick, that tournament thing cought be fun but i think still some people would cheat. just leave the animal in the trap and check it for 3 days. not sure but nowadays hardly anyone is honest. i like the idea though. maybe next year.
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Slick I've never noticed that!! I need to watch more closely. A person could mark the side of a snare in such a way to test how often that happens. You are the man Dew!! It is nice when the water is shallow enough!!
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Awesome story Brandon!!
It will be great to see more pics 34!!
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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connibear1 how you make out with those sets anyway? hope you did good i'll post some more pics this weekend going south to trap some flooded farms about 20 lodges,
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I still have to set them Fisher. It worked out I didn't have enough time. Today or tomorrow I will get them out. I want to wait until the temp. reaches at least -4 before I venture out to my secluded spots. It is -13 right now. I don't have a snowmobile...only snowshoes and an otter sled.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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When beaver go back and forth from hut to dam, are they traveling just under the ice or on the bottom?
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I believe either and all in between. It all depends on why and what they happen to be doing at the time. For the most part nearer the lodge or den, they are on the bottom following their grooved runways on the bottom. When they arrive the dam or feedbed, I believe they go pretty much anywhere.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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...i laso found the bigger beaver in the snare pole, but pretty sure it was just luck... That has been my general experience when setting baited sets. Clark
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Excellent pics! I love the hind foot catch! I did that last spring with a Duke 330...great great traps.
Sounds like you have a nice size line out. How much ice do you have in Maine now?
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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well the thickness of the ice in someplaces in an inch or so but at most of the flowages i'm down into 18-20 inches. should have got them sooner so i wouldnt have to deal with it.
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I was going to start using a chainsaw because of the ice thickness now. For me it is another piece of weight to carry along.
How many people use chainsaws to cut their holes?
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I don't think it's good to cut a large hole for snares, if a beaver is caught before the hole freezes over he can get out and run around all over on top of the ice.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I use a chainsaw, they work good. Canadians use them a lot.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Doesnt anybody use their power auger? i also use my power auger for my speering hole. just (2) 8" holes side by side.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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i use a chainsaw sometime but usually i dont want everyone and their mother knowing i'm there, plus most of my lodges are a few mile walk, a walk i would rather do without a chainsaw, let alone a chainsaw with a beaver. i've never had abeaver on top of the ice but i had one break the cross pole and drag it under water, you could see where it came out in open water got hung up and chewed the snare off at the pole, so the snare is still on him, i sure hope he's not dead.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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You only need to bring the saw in just one time, unless you plane on making more sets on the same pond. I take all day, say Saturday start around 6:00 am and go trapping all day. Make my sets on the ponds,carrying in the saw just one time, then do the next pond. You do not carry saw in every time you go check traps snares etc...
I am not a young buck like you Fisher-usmc anymore, but when I was I could and still do if need be carry a 20lb.+ saw in one hand and a 30lb.+ beave over my shoulder or drag or whatever with the other hand. The key or point is to work smarter not harder.
Hey, I have chiseled my fair share of ice not just a few inches thick stuff, like 18"+ when I was a few years younger, then I read about the guy's in Canada, Alaska using chainsaw to cut in ice and cover the hole up with snow, boughs, feed sack etc. WOW COOL IDEA!!! SOOOOO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CHOP A POOP LOAD OF ICE ON CHECK DAY.
To each their own and other mileage may vary. Good luck with the ice
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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mntrapperboy's dad here, the kid has got me addicted. We've modified most of the baited 330 sets to what you guys have suggested and still only have so-so luck. When we put the work into the run sets we have good luck. I'm thinking it is in the location of the sets, how close and in what general location to the feed bed do you make the sets? Up high just below the top of the ice or somewhere lower? I hear you talk about the baited sets at the dams also, anything special with that locations, real close to the dam or just somewhere between the lodge and dam? Oh yah, fell in to my knees a couple of weeks ago, does that quailify as a polar bear or do you have to go totally under?
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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thanks stump, didnt quite know what you ment, i fill in the holes with snow to make it easier. i thought you ment taking it to check also. the smarter not harder thing, is reason i dont use a chainsaw to hump a few miles in. i would rather work a little harder for 5 minutes chipping a whole then working harder for and hour luggin it in, thats assuming your walking 3 miles per hour through waste deep snow in the thick brush. I do know what you mean though. but then again thats why when you get a 60 pounder that far in you should skin it on the spot, wish i did that but i like to clean skin em.
Birds dont fly without my permission Love is the delightful interval between meeting a beautiful girl and discovering that she looks like a haddock.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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mntrapper, i set right on the edge of the feed pile on both sides and in front, if there is to many stik in the way i move a little out but still set right on the edge on it. and i very the set from being close to the top to in the middle, i hardly ever put in on the bottom, i'll post pics friday as to where i set on the lodges
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Hey no problem Fisher-usmc. Do you cover your holes then put snow over the covering?? A GREAT little book by Trapper Art is a big help for the new and old beaver trapper. Does not cost much, and easy to find at most trap supply outfits. Yes, skin out big boy's on the ice is smart-good idea, just flesh it out later or clean skin out in the bush, what ever is you pleasure.
I set snares off feed piles. BUT be carful, you need to stay several feet away from the pile or you can get all tangled up in it. No fun when you have a beav on one end and it is all caught up in the pile, or worst yet tangle up and break -twist cable. Same with conni traps you can get sticks setting of your trap. Some take chisel or their arm and clear away the food-sticks then set, do what works best for you.
Trial and error sometimes is good for you. I set my snare or conni about 6" below the ice and then dependes how deep water is. Normaly water is around 3-6" deep with about 26" ice. so if in three foot water, snare or trap is about 6-8" below the ice, just off bottom. I do put 3 or 4 snares on some poles if water is say 4' deep or more. 2 on top (6" below ice) then 2 on bottom (8-12")I will even put 2 conni's on a deep set same wat 1 on top 1 on bottom. Their is many way's to go about it.
As for dam set with bait, depends what your reg's say. In Wisconsin we have to stay 15' away from the dam with a set. I have found out a baited set of the edge of the dam and land wher it comes together to be deadly. I have caught many a big big beav with snare or conni doing this.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Great information!! I'm thinking that I may go straight snares on my long walks the rest of the winter. Bringing a chainsaw in for the 1st cut would work out great and then just carry a chisel. Skinning on the ice sounds good, but the time factor would make it tough most days. I need to get in, check, un-freeze my glasses and walk out. During the spring I bring my knife on the longer excursions. I love all this underice talk!! There are alot of little tricks that one can learn!!
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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Hi guys, here is the saw I was talking about. What are your thoughts? http://www.icesaws.com/When I was a kid I remember seeing oldtimers cutting the ice to set fish nets with a large saw that were used to fell trees. They made really short work of the ice.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I'm curious how well it works. It is expensive though.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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I have used one of those saw's for years, it will cut through 2 ft of ice like a hot knife through butter. I love it. Only problem I have had is it can get dull and then you are hosed. And it only works to open a new hole, no good for checks. Crutch
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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If one couldn't sharpen the saw, then I don't see its worth. A good chainsaw would be much better IMO for the initial cut.
What are some good underice videos to learn from?
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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It is dangerous around the beaver lodges ! It had been cold for 4 days last week and I encountered a 1/4" of ice for 6' near one lodge on Saturday. That was a little scarey. I always check the ice with my 20 lb. spud!
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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This is the best thread currently going at Trapperman. The format of this forum allows good informational posts like this to get lost. This thread deserves "Sticky" status at this time of year. Thanks Conibear1 for directing me here. Brandon, where are the pictures? The closest I have come to dying so far was a soaking while beaver trapping. I can relate. I finally have a little time to devote to one of my favorite passions "Under Ice Beaver Trapping". This thread and being able to share my adventures with you makes it even sweeter. I wrote an on-line diary of my under ice beaver trapping last winter. Per ADC's request I put it here. http://jayme220.proboards53.com/index.cgi?board=archive&action=display&thread=24I have been out twice to these lodges early this winter. The ice wasn't safe at the runs or feedbed. Going back this weekend and try some of the baited sets I have read on this thread. Here are a few lodges all in the same piece, all the same permit. I took these pictures on a scouting mission in December after the brutal ice storm we had in New England. The ice. The condo. The condo up close. This pond is the furthest from the truck. I need the exercise. Two lodges in this pond. I am bringing a couple guys who want to see what beaver trapping is all about. With 20+" of snow on the ground and snowshoes being the only means of transportation in this piece, I look forward to the help. Coalman
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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STUMPMAKER, to start a hole to use the ice saw I have a four inch hand auger that I use to open a hole before I use the saw. The saw dose have a point that can be used to chip a hole but it won't work to well after the ice is over 8 inches thick. I also use this hole to find out if the water is deep enough or to deep. And I can find out how long of a pole I will need for a set.( I use snares quite a bit.)I Also use this hole to find out if there are a bunch of sticks in the way. I have found that many times when I have cut a hole and did not check the deepth or for sticks in the way, I would need to move a few feet away and cut another hole, so I learned the hard way. Now I drill a small hole and check before I cut my larger hole. Calvin, My saw became dull when I brought a friend with an he through the saw on the groud when it was folded shut. You know how the saw folds against the wood handle, well it must have bent the very tips of the teeth it won,t cut anything now it is duller then a butter knife. I tried filing the tips with no luck, haven't tried getting it sharpend by the manufacturer yet.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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01/31/09 I had the pleasure of sharing a trapline yesterday with a couple of my friends from NEHN Oddfish and Big Blue helping Coalman "Paint the Fence". This is hut #1. It took a little chopping but we did find the hut entrance. We went to hut #2 but beaver activity was minimal. So we headed another 1/4 mile in to the "Condo". There is no sign of the feed bed above the snow line. It took us a couple holes to find the edge of the feed bed. We put in three baited sets. One with the the bait wired to the pole. One with the bait wired to the trigger and the last with the bait wired to the bottom jaw of the 330. A picture of our efforts. I can't thank OD or BB enough for coming with me and helping. Winter beaver trapping is a physical effort. I only wish they could be here today when I go check the traps. I owe you both a turkey hunt.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
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02/01/09 I put a strap around my belt and became my own sled dog. The packed down trail made the walk in instinct. The Jet Sled followed with ease. Arriving at the Condo Pond. View of the pond from the lodge. Bubbles are good. The pole was heavy. The prize Text book Rebuilding the set. Thanks OD and BB. Life is good.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
[Re: bmead]
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madtrapper
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Somebody asked about a video on under ice beaver trapping. The Minnesota trapper's association put one together a few years ago, (maybe 20 years ago) I don't think we could put it on here, but maybe it is still around somewhere.
Ely, Minnesota, coolest small town in America, 2010.
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Re: 2009 Under Ice Beaver Thread
[Re: madtrapper]
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02/09/09 05:52 PM
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Blackdog
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Wisconsin
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Blak Coyote (AKA) Duane Fronek has a Basic Under-Ice Beaver Trapping DVD for sale!! $15 shipped to your door!!
It covers all the basics>> Bodygrips,Snares,Footholds,Safty!
Any DVD from a guy that can take 75 beavers from under the ice in a season is a must see!
PM Me if you have any questions.
Just ask your mommy...
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