Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !!!
[Re: Asa Lenon]
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08/29/09 09:32 AM
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Could there be a lure that would draw animals from a mile away? The ultimate lure. Naaa,I think as said before any lure will work if you are on location. I agree that there are no lures that call animals for such long distances and even if the lure could be smelled for a mile how many animals would go that far out of thier way to investigate it? As example, skunk musk is a good longer distance animal attractant but if say a coyote in my part of the country went very far out of his way or strayed from his day's agenda to investigate it he would never get where he was going because he would constantly be zig-zagging back and forth all over the woods. As for any lure working if one is on location, I'm not so sure about that. I have extensively experimented with at least forty formulas and believe me they vary widely in attraction from near zero attention paid to them up to 95% emphatic working of the lure. Asa Where could the coyote actually be going? In search of food I would think most of the time. So maybe a very strong food odor might draw him in after thinking about it. Like a dead deer. That would give off alot of smell and they wouldn't be waisting their time knowing it would be there.Maybe a very loud food lure might draw them. I thought most lures was the same if set on location. Please tell more Asa.
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !!!
[Re: jcb4x]
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08/29/09 09:40 AM
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I think they travel their territory. This territory claimed would certainly include a food source. Once they realize their route is safe I'd say they pretty much "stick to the plan" everyday unless there is serious cause to pause. JMO.
-Goofy
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !!!
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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08/29/09 09:48 AM
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I think they travel their territory. This territory claimed would certainly include a food source. Once they realize their route is safe I'd say they pretty much "stick to the plan" everyday unless there is serious cause to pause. JMO. This is where pre baiting would pay off before season then. Would lure do the same thing then as pre baiting you think? Change their route.
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !
[Re: jcb4x]
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08/29/09 09:54 AM
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Canines and coon are a sucker for sweet, edible stuff. They will return again and again for something like cracklin's with molasses or honey on them. It just takes a lot of time to prebait and most serious trappers don't have/take that time, IMO...
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !
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Canines and coon are a sucker for sweet, edible stuff. They will return again and again for something like cracklin's with molasses or honey on them. It just takes a lot of time to prebait and most serious trappers don't have/take that time, IMO... A couple times a summer I throw away fish scraps , when you clean sweet corn I save the parts you cut off, eat crabs and throw away the leftover trash it all adds up, the critters are still around opening day
I TRAP PETA'S FRONT PORCH
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !
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08/29/09 07:55 PM
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Asa Lenon
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Making homemade lures adds to the whole trapping experience if done right. But you need a good place to do it, like an outbuilding. And you need to learn how to do it by reading books on the subject and following directions.
Best advice is to keep to simple formulas such as fish oil, or a bait made of jack mackeral and honey, or urine collected from trapped animals. As you gain confidence can try something more challenging like a gland lure or a call lure.
Until you are really sure of what your are doing, supplement your home grown with name brand lures and keep records of what is catching what.
Its fun to catch fur with you own lures. And it can save money.
Kind of like cathcing fish with flies tied yourself, just adds a little something. Your right, as long as one has some basis to start with like a Wyshinski lure making book and uses some common sense they can likely produce some decent lures and add to or subtract from the formula as they do some testing and gain some experience. Asa
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !
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08/29/09 10:10 PM
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Making homemade lures adds to the whole trapping experience if done right. But you need a good place to do it, like an outbuilding. And you need to learn how to do it by reading books on the subject and following directions.
Best advice is to keep to simple formulas such as fish oil, or a bait made of jack mackeral and honey, or urine collected from trapped animals. As you gain confidence can try something more challenging like a gland lure or a call lure.
Until you are really sure of what your are doing, supplement your home grown with name brand lures and keep records of what is catching what.
Its fun to catch fur with you own lures. And it can save money.
Kind of like cathcing fish with flies tied yourself, just adds a little something. very well said John on a side note ... I must admit, it rubs me wrong and frets me when I see it suggested that one should not tread into doing so for one reason or another ... that mentality is just plain silly ... expanding your knowledge of such can only better yourself as a trapper and a potential bait/lure maker ----------------------------------- I think everyone should do it at least once! I agree ... if nothing else it will give you a new found respect for those who do so as their livelihood ------------------------------------ check ULINE for your new one gallon glass jars ... they run about three bucks a piece (if you buy 10) ... and they have better shipping rates than most of the so called online wholesale glass/bucket/bottle companies most places want upwards of a $100 shipping on a couple dozen ... ULINE is only around mid $20's (reckon it really depends on how close you are to one of their 6 warehouses)
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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08/30/09 11:50 AM
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With fur prices once again down why not try all those exeriments you've been considering? There wont be much if any profit trapping fur this year. The stuff that doesn't work or is only marginal won't upset your finances this season. It's a bit late to formulate anything that needs aging so trap your own glands with stuff you know works. Prepare stuff for next year. Probably won't be able to make much on fur next year either.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !
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08/30/09 12:56 PM
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on a side note ... I must admit, it rubs me wrong and frets me when I see it suggested that one should not tread into doing so for one reason or another ... that mentality is just plain silly ... expanding your knowledge of such can only better yourself as a trapper and a potential bait/lure maker
I agree totally with what Poss. said and what would it hurt for a man or lady to try there hand at making a few lures / I do agree he should buy a book and get some kind of reading knowledge of lure making by a respected lure maker like Wyshinski a well renounded lure maker.......and as long as he isn't going to sell it his own testing would service for now...but thats just an ole hillbilly speakin
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !
[Re: DanielE]
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08/30/09 01:53 PM
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I like to make my own lures sure, do I sell any, I really don't think what I make is worthy YET! to be sold but, never the less I like making lures and catching animals from my own stuff. I think it builds ones confidence in his ability as a trapper which in turn builds his overall character as a person...Do I buy lures sure, becuase some things just can't be reproduced correctly without the the original formula.....I would encourage anyone wanting to make lures for himself to GO FOR IT! its fun and interesting. you won't hurt anyone by using your own stuff or giving some to a buddy to try. Heck you may just turn out to be the next Hawbaker or Wyshinski. It may not happen tomarrow but who knows unless you try...HB Ken
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Re: Making my own lure --awww for the heck of it !
[Re: white17]
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08/30/09 03:44 PM
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Asa Lenon
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It probably varies by species but I know for a fact that I have pulled critters from 300 yards into a set just because of the lure. It's a lot easier to judge performance when you have snow to tell the story. I have seen many times by tracks in the snow where animals have made abrupt turns into a set from a hundred yards or more. Even bobcats have done that when the general concensus amongst many is that cats can't smell well. However, one can never use stronger smelling lures and make them compensate for poor set locations. As a rule of thumb 50 feet is generally how far one can consistently call animals off thier travel route or day's agenda. I suppose that figure might vary somewhat depending upon available food supplies in the area, etc. with a hungry animal being more eager to go out of its way. Asa
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