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Using ladder hooks and pur black #3116868
04/11/12 06:08 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqJ1DJEbPFI&feature=youtube_gdata_player. Not sure what people are using but this what I use ,if there something better please let me know


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3116928
04/11/12 06:50 PM
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Ladders are not designed to take that kind of torque. If that ladder is rated for 250 lbs., that means when it is set up at the proper angle with the weight being primarily distributed to the ground. The way you have it set up there, you are gambling on the ability of the two sections to stay connected and not twist apart. Man, you are flirtin' with disaster... Just sayin'
Let's be careful out there guys. No amount of money is worth being permanently disabled for, (or worse)

Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3116965
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Well I wish you would tell me a better way then , it's a 12/12 pitch and below is the drive way so the ladder could easily kick out , also thats top of the line ladder from national ladder . If I knew of a better way I would surly use it


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117001
04/11/12 07:37 PM
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Not that I have never done that with a ladder......In that situation I would use the ridge hook you have, we have one installed on a 20 FT section of an aluminum ladder that works great. A lot of people will also use ladder jacks installed under the shingles, and a 2 X 6 to support a ladder placed directly on the roof. Personally,I try to stay off roofs as much as possible,just don't bounce like I used to.

Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117040
04/11/12 07:58 PM
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2 ladders, one to get onto the roof, and the second one with the ladder hook(s) on it. I say "Hooks" because I believe that style is supposed to be used in pairs, not just one. Or, you can just separate the ladder sections if the lower half will get you up to the roofline and use the other half as the hooker. How about a chicken ladder? Or you can use roof jacks and a 2x to support the roof ladder (better than nothing, but I prefer chicken sticks) sometimes the customer freaks out when you tell them you're gonna poke holes in their roof.
I have a type 1a Werner and I would NEVER use it like you have it set up in the video. Like I said before, they're designed for climbing, not scaffolding. If it wasn't extended at all, it wouldn't be so bad. But when you have it extended as you did, you put a lot of torque where it shouldn't be, on the rails. Of course, the more you extend it, the weaker the two sections become.

Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117043
04/11/12 08:00 PM
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Ha! Albert, you beat me to it........

Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117062
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Get yourself a chicken ladder and an extension... I have been using this system from lynn ladder for a few years now and wont climb a lot of roofs with out it.
http://www.lynnladder.com

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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117136
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I have two like this bought two because shipping was free, and $5 cheaper than one with shipping. The thing is to heavy when you put a bunch of sections on it, otherwise works great. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CodvWrKYaTw

Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117182
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I do use roof jacks but real don't feel safe on them just nailed into 7/16 OSB . There really made to shingle over . I always make sure there in.the truss , a 20 ' ladder with a hook would be about 5' short on that roof . I know it doesn't look like but it is , I dont really see any thing wrong with setting up my second ladder, climb that to I get to the garage roof , then climb on that ladder that's laying on the roof it's very solid ,more solid then any hook or jack system , I guess I've never seen a chicken ladder what is that ?


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117270
04/11/12 09:47 PM
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Ok found the chicken ladder looks like about the same thing to me ,but harder to climb ,set up , we're would I put that thing in truck


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117276
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holy crap....
dont take this in the wrong way, but posting videos of how you do work on youtube NOT in accordance with OSHA is a huge red flag, and awaiting penalties and fines.

there are at least 6 other locations on the house where you can access the roof and get access to that one location. on a 12/12 pitch, again posting a video with out any safety harness anchor point on the roof is again, a big no no.
If you are unsure of how to safely access a roof with proper tools (ladders) PPE, you should definately not be in this line of work.

I would recommend taking the OSHA 30 hour course online (189.00) for a start, get the proper tools, proper training, and then go from there.

People want to know why OTHER professionals want more regulations in this field? this is a huge example.

There Im done.


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117310
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You can't use a ladder hook that's against the law


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117326
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The ladder hook that you displayed in the video, the manufacturer recommendation says for using 2 of them from the same ladder while in use...


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117346
04/11/12 10:15 PM
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Has anyone tried this fall protection anchor? It is portable, water filled....no need to nail into finished roof.

http://www.gravisys.com/fall_arrest_water_anchor.html

Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117379
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I do have two I just didn't feel like digging the other one out , So if I use two I'm ok , I didn't even use the hook on that roof know need for it , I was looking at that chicken ladder on YouTube that only has one is that legal. That thing looks really heavy and no wheels, and im thinking it would hurt my rear end when I got under the over hangs and such


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117386
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No haven't tried that one Dave how do you like it ,


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117398
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Havent tried it, yet. We would use this ladder hook with built in anchor point designed for fall protection. See photo half way down page.
www.crittercatchersinc.com/critters/bats/bat_removal_control.html

Be safe out there...

Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117435
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Where did you find that setup Dave , looks nice I don't really like the hook as much as mine because that wheel really comes in handy when your 20' up and need to run it up the roof still .I think you and B&B have the best web site in are area , you two must really compeat with each other . His wife is really on top of things over there .


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Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117439
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There is a wheel on the setup. Rolls real good. The hook part folds down flat for transport. It is heavier than your model, so we use it on a 14 foot.

Re: Using ladder hooks and pur black [Re: Peskycritter] #3117493
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pesky i don't often comment on others vids or tech's but if you want to tell the world your ladder is not on the trough thats fine , "i been there and done that" your ladder is riding that trough as soon as you get on it with that angle but oh well it's your customers


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