Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: trapper4hire]
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04/29/12 10:28 PM
04/29/12 10:28 PM
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Dave Schmidt
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I'd like to have seen that double catch as it happened. Looks like a once-in-a-million-years occurrence.
ALL OUT Wildlife Control
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Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: trapper4hire]
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04/30/12 12:43 PM
04/30/12 12:43 PM
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coonsmasher220
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The double catch was because they were young critters moving together as thy often do. i have had several doubles in a kill with young squirrels in conies. kermit i have a kill set up with a 5x5 mounted in a nose cone on a 13x13 steel chimney cap. It works.
Ben Boehl Another Critter Gone LLC Cincinnati, OH OSTA, NTA, FTA, OWCOA, NRA
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Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: trapper4hire]
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05/02/12 09:35 AM
05/02/12 09:35 AM
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hvtrapper
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I've used this method in the past and will again in the future when the situation calls for it. Personally I prefer to have enough wire/cable/chain so that the catch can reach the ground. IMHO Far less attention attracted by a dead animal on the ground than by one swinging from the client's house. I did read that the "hangers" were on the back side of client homes and mean no offense. Around here homes are close enough together that one could observe catches across house yards.
Tom Walters
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Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: Peskycritter]
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05/02/12 09:39 AM
05/02/12 09:39 AM
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On a Call
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I'm sitting on a job right now with the same type hole . Wish I had one of them green machines made up . I got a nose cone rigged that will have to do . Should rig a sign on there fresh meat for sale . If you were in Down Town Detroit...you could start a market ! And.....have customers.
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Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: trapper4hire]
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05/07/12 03:23 PM
05/07/12 03:23 PM
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LT GREY
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usually i use conis as last resort for cage shy coon, and only with home owner permission. OK, that's to one's credit....however, here's my 2 cents worth...some will disagree, without a doubt...but...
Regardless even if it comes down to having to do it...( use a kill trap in an urban setting )
It is NEVER a "good idea" to have to use a kill trap in an urban setting for any reason...IMO !
I understand sometimes you may have no other choice...BUT EVERY 'COON SEEN CAUGHT IN THOSE PICTURES COULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT IN THE PROPER MOUNTED CAGE TRAP, ( such as a Kirk De or Comstock trap with the new wire trigger system ) PROPERLY SET, OVER THE HOLE !
They don't make animals ( except fox and / or coyotes ) that can not be caught... even FORCED... into a cage trap...they just don't !
To have to use a kill trap over a hole in a structure, suggest that the WCO either does NOT have the proper equipment to do the job or he does NOT have the knowledge !
Usually both !
Let the wrong people see a 'coon "swinging in the breeze ( and you know very well how many phones have photo and video capabilities ) and have the news media get ahold of it...and see what happens to your business !
Having an animal that won't come into a baited trap is one thing...but an animal that is in a dwelling and has a entry / exit point...well. that's another !
Now, I've used kill traps in the past...before I got skilled at catching any animal in any hole...even a hole in a soffit 3 stories high !
It's no different than catching a squirrel in a excluder trap, except, the trap is a 'coon size trap from someone like COMSTOCK especially made to be mounted right over the hole with a WIRE TRIGGER !
It is much better to have a 'coon sitting in a vertical trap with a stupid look on it's face than a dead bloated one with flies crawling over it.
And the first person that you don't want to see it, that does...will fast agree.
Somebody go ask Jameson how many animals in the ADC biz he uses a kill trap on...I'll bet it isn't many !!!
You've got trappers like VInke in Washington state who can catch OTTER, MINK, MUSKRATS AND BEAVER with ease in cage traps....Trapper's like COMSTOCK in N.Y. and KIRK De of Ga. catching beaver and otter quite easily...
LATrapper in Al. catching foxes with his system... It goes to show you what great minds can do, when they need to.
I have nothing against kill traps...I use them in fur trapping all the time...It would be EXTREMELY RARE however, that I would ever use on in an urban setting....it just isn't needed !
And, before this year, IN THE STATE OF OHIO....if you were using kill traps on squirrels and raccoons in ADC work, you would have needed a special permit to do so...Whether you had an illegal trap or not!
Many trappers did it and it was in fact, illegal in this state WITHOUT a Blanket permit !
Most of us did it, not even knowing we were breaking the law...
Maybe one of my students on here will show a few pics on how they were trained to "live capture" 'coons that would NOT respond to baited traps !
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