Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
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11/19/13 01:02 AM
11/19/13 01:02 AM
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Posts: 1,017 Alberta
Bushman
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This is a box I whipped together the other day. I discovered an area opened up that I hadn't anticipated and wasn't prepared for. I needed to make 2 dozen boxes in an hour or so. I also wanted to be able to easily pack them. I rough cut strips 7.5" wide by 16" long out of 3/8" plywood. I used three pieces for each box - two sides that I cut notches in - and a top. The bottom is a seperate piece of 3/4" plywood the same dimensions. I drilled holes in the corner of the three pieces and loosely joined the sides with the top, and then folded them flat. I stacked the bottom piece on top and put a wrap of tape around to hold the package together. For the backs, because I was in a hurry, I cut heavy pieces of cardboard that I fastened in the field. At my set I nailed the base piece down using 2- 2" shingle nails. I had my cordless drill so I put two screws into each side, right into the base piece. I used 1" screws in case I need to use a hand screw driver. Once the base and sides were screwed tight I pulled the zip-ties tight and the box solidifed. I wrapped the cardboard around the back and used a couple more short screws to hold it in place. Since then I've made back pieces that are 8" x 8" with a 1.5" wood piece attached to one edge like a" L "shape. I just screw the 1.5" piece into the side of the box with one screw. It took me longer to type this then it did to build it in the field. Finished off with bait in an onion bag and marten lure on a cotton swab or dry stick.
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
#4122926
11/19/13 01:34 AM
11/19/13 01:34 AM
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Bushman
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My making money set. I can set this one up quickly and move it in seconds. I use 16" pieces of lath. I nail one end of the lath on to my leaning pole or horizontal tree. I slide the box under the un-nailed end of the lath and pull it until its tight. sometimes I have to place a small stick under the back of the box to lever it a bit highter to 'tighten' it up. The bait is in my bait onion bags, and I pull the tag end of the bait bag through one of the holes drilled in the back of the plastic box. I believe the red colour of the bags is an attractant to marten. I've seen them feeding on frozen mountain ash berries in the winter which are bright red. When it's time to pull the set I just have to back it off the lath and move on. The following year i can slide back onto the existing lath. I have sets where I've used the lath strips for years.
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
#4122942
11/19/13 02:21 AM
11/19/13 02:21 AM
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Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 46,945 james bay frontierOnt.
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This is the box I use on my early lines.I am done trapping these lines by end of Nov,first week of Dec.so heavy snow is not an issue.The bait needs to be changed frequently when trapping early and is easy to do with this box set up. Extensive field tests were done here in late 80's and early 90's,and the vertical box opening up was a top marten producer.Downside was more incidentals and not always the best strike location,and not the best for mid winter. This is the box I use when I want some eye appeal in a more open setting-marten hunt by sight.The way I set this box up is two nails,to attach the box on a dry spruce runner,one nail in runner to tree and 11 ga wire from the stub over the top of the box and around the tree.The opening is about a foot to 18 in from the tree trunk,and the wire discourages the marten from climbing on top of the box and knocking the trap out.The stub allows whiskeyjacks to feed on the bait from the back and attract marten.The downside to this box is the bait is quickly consumed by rodents,and incidentals are higher.According to our field studies it is a good marten producer,and works well all season,and you get a good strike location. This box is the bomb when it comes to marten trapping.Bait lasts a long time in this box.It is weatherproof requiring no maintenance even in the heaviest snow.With the proper trigger configuration(L-shape towards tree trunk)you always get a double strike(no pelt dmg and very humane)With screen on top the whiskeyjacks can work the bait for attraction.Minimal incidental catch with the vertical box opening down.This is the go-to box for the winter lines.Notice the very narrow slots-this is what holds the trap in place.In field studies this was one of the top marten producers.
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
#4122949
11/19/13 02:41 AM
11/19/13 02:41 AM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,421 Yukon
yukon254
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Good thread! Judging by last years harvest I dont think Yukon marten are at historic highs. I have always been of the opinion that since marten are so easy to catch, sets should be simple and very quick. Brian I really like your folding boxes....never seen that before. Here is how I do it....my all time favorite and by far the fastest is the permanent Gibb box. Got this idea from Jim Gibb a few years ago....now lots of trappers in Yukon are using it. The Gibb box This box is only 6 inches deep.....I can carry 3-dozen nested together in my ski-doo box....downside is the bait has to be wired in......I can have this box set in under 2 minutes For extremely rough trails where weight is an issue I use snares.....they are about as light as you can get and very effective.
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
#4123225
11/19/13 09:46 AM
11/19/13 09:46 AM
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Posts: 291 Quebec ,Canada
Fergustrap
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better advice to give on marten is set double at best spot you have.you cannot take 2 marten with only one trap at same time, and if you catch squirrel or weasel or sprung trap at lonely set this is out for marten, so with double set your odd is always better. When i try a new spot for the first time and not sure of the location i,m use only one set but if it,s a real nice spot dont hesited to make double, you dont regreted for sure. i have some trouble with gibb box system, with ice and snow on lower jaw, maybe because the step at entrance give it. i like this king of box but cut the step just add pole for access is solution for me
Last edited by Fergustrap; 11/19/13 10:18 AM.
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
#4123320
11/19/13 10:48 AM
11/19/13 10:48 AM
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Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,535 Orergon
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I have/do use sets similar to most above, (Though no snares), but we can't leave out the flower pot set. Very light, stackable, weather-proof, and fast. In fact, all you really need at the set, other than the pot and trap is a tree. And I totally agree with making at least two sets at most locations, Sometimes as simple as this, with a box on the pole and a pot next to it. Most times just a couple pots, for me. Great thread Bushman!
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
#4123394
11/19/13 11:44 AM
11/19/13 11:44 AM
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Joined: May 2007
Posts: 852 Ontario
holdengr
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This is something I have been tinkering with. I basically copied the Donahue set with some small improvements. the cone is just some aluminum flashing, cut rectangular, riveted together then trimmed the square edges. I have seen guys use nails or a piece of 1x2 to hold the trap. I used a Killer clip to hold the conibear. The main reason is that you can firmly stabilize the trap without increasing the pressure on the trigger. A screw as a bait holder I have caught a few marten and fisher in them but I'm still testing. Pro's - they set up fast with just the back of the axe - I can fit 30 or more in a milk crate - keeps the whiskey jacks out - perfect for investigating a new area before committing to heavy wooden boxes - small and compact, hard to see from the trail-reduce theft if that's a concern Con's - only hold a small piece of bait - white ones seem to attract flying squirrels like crazy - sometimes have to search around for the cone if it flies off when the trap fires - small and compact, hard to see from the trail- no drive by checking these at any distance.
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
#4123440
11/19/13 12:21 PM
11/19/13 12:21 PM
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Posts: 288 Circle, Alaska
Birchcreekkid
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Holdengr I do something similar to yours. I bought a huge pack of wooden shims for like $4 and use a barkers conimount and instead of the flashing I'm using flower pots with the lip cut off so it slips behind the wooden shim. I like these sets because they are snow/ bird proof but I don't like having to carry a bunch of coni's around to replace the ones with marten in them so I still use the ol' leaning pole with a #1 or #0 longspring a lot too
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