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LURE - Asa, Paul, lure makers #461097
12/13/07 09:43 PM
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Had a brain storm yesterday morning as I was fleshing some Grey fox LOADED with fat. If the fat was rendered down and mixed with the glands of its own kind, would the fat be a good base for a fox lure?


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: MADTRAPPER50] #461114
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I've heard of people taking fox carcasses, gut them, put them in a sealed bucket, then bury the bucket. The bucket is dug up in a year or so and everything except the bones on the fox carcass turns into a liquidy substance. I've heard of this being used as a lure base.

I've not heard of using the fat taken from a fox and used though. Give it a shot and see how it works.



Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: Paul Dobbins] #461130
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Thanks Paul. I remember as I stood there fleshing that the fat had a really loud foxy smell to it. That's what got me to wondering about it.


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: Paul Dobbins] #461148
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 Originally Posted By: Paul Dobbins
I've heard of people taking fox carcasses, gut them, put them in a sealed bucket, then bury the bucket. The bucket is dug up in a year or so and everything except the bones on the fox carcass turns into a liquidy substance.


Man that is just plain rough!


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: Rye] #461270
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rye, old timesr would rot down anything on earth darnnear and make something out of it lol. i always got a kick out of wiley carrols idea, onw was to use deer brains rotted for a lure base, but wiley wanted ya to rot them in the head and then remove them lmao.


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: Rye] #461275
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i think you can add the galls and something else into it.i have the recipe in a book.

Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: tecks] #461289
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Besides just using the fat, I was planning to use all the glands . Thought if I rendered down the fat and ground the glands up, let it set for a yr or 2, added preservative, it just might, MAYBE, be useful to all the possoum trappers if nothing else. lol


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: MADTRAPPER50] #461380
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Thank goodness none of my formulas call for all of that nasty work!!!!! LOL! Ace

Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: Asa Lenon] #461411
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LOL - you got that right Asa. I couldn't imagine using that, but I hear the rotted down carcasses were really mellow after a year or two of aging.



Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: Paul Dobbins] #461427
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if i catch enough fox im making some like that for next year. \:D

Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: tecks] #461444
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Yeppers, the longer a rotted down carcass ages after one year it mellows out alot. Been there done that. I have a about a gallon left of a five gallon rotted liver from 30 years ago. DOESNT SMELL anything like it the first year it was rotting..... WHEW... i still remember that first year, now it is a very good base for a lure i make... does make them slobber for sure..... ;>)


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: RdFx] #461449
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I have two buckets of deer meat that are about three years old and they are liquid, at least on top, and very mellow.

I have a container of mink glands that is about 25 years old, that I had buried and forgot about, that I wish I had a bucket of, cause it is some mellow minky smelling stuff.


Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: k9.] #461536
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Thank GOD for guy's like Paul, Asa, and Bob Jameson just to name a few. I know some of you all like to experiment on your own and what not but if I ever get so poor I have to bury thing's to rot and make my own lure and bait I will just hang it up . But best of luck to those of you that are brave enough to venture into this on your own.

Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: TroyMcDaniel] #461653
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Hey now guys... it was just a thought. lol.


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: MADTRAPPER50] #461702
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Can you imagine what the archiologist 1000 yrs from now are going to say when they dig up all of that "forgotten" rotted down critter.I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that converstation:)


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: ] #462216
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Hey i'm not knocking ya just wishing you the best of luck LOL it's not for me. Gage you almost made me throw up in my mouth a little bit UUGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: MADTRAPPER50] #462220
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Wouldn't work for me I can't remember a week past let alone burying something and retrieving it 2 years in the future.

But hey, try it and if it works, everybody on t-man can send you there carcasses from next year.


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: MADTRAPPER50] #462281
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Trapper should be used to smelly things one of my favorite quotes is (old trappers dont die they just smell that way)
And as a VERY AMATEUR LURE maker I just have fun concocting my own brews and experimenting


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Re: Asa, Paul, lure makers [Re: ] #462582
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I rot all my (gutted) skunk carcas' down in 5 gallon buckets each year. It takes about 2 years to rot down completely. It makes an excellent lure base or just to use as is! ;\)

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