Re: I Guess We're Not The Only Ones
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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02/11/15 04:35 PM
02/11/15 04:35 PM
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Luray,VA
Mike Hurley
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Luray,VA
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my contract reads that the "material" belongs to the company until paid for in full, I think that this is all in the way the contract is wriiten
Last edited by Mike Hurley; 02/11/15 04:37 PM.
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Re: I Guess We're Not The Only Ones
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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02/11/15 04:44 PM
02/11/15 04:44 PM
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NWWA/AZ
Vinke
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NWWA/AZ
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Will not hold up,,,,,,,,,
My contract says $35 after 10 days,,,,,,,,250 aprx lien fee and 18 percent
Someday they will sell............
we started tearing a roof back off in CA in the 80's and spent 3 nights in jail until we could see the judge on monday........
Ant Man/ Marty 2028 just put your ear to the ground , and follow along
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Re: I Guess We're Not The Only Ones
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
#4908083
02/11/15 07:59 PM
02/11/15 07:59 PM
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St. Louis Co, Mo
BigBob
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St. Louis Co, Mo
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Well handled. That's why I always get 1/2 up front. However, all the news story's about people getting screwed by contractors will say "Never give money up front". So? You don't know weather to crap or go blind.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: I Guess We're Not The Only Ones
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
#4908584
02/11/15 11:35 PM
02/11/15 11:35 PM
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Southern Michigan
Cooner22
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Southern Michigan
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That's an interesting question. What ended up happening, and did the law become involved, like court dates etc? I had one lawn care customer who wouldn't pay, I of course quit, and never got the money. Unfortunately in that case, I couldn't go back and put the grass back up. 
"Not everything on the internet can be believed." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: I Guess We're Not The Only Ones
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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02/12/15 12:58 AM
02/12/15 12:58 AM
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northern Calif.
Probtrapper
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northern Calif.
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As far as Calif. is conserned Vinke is exactly correct. Once you attach something to the house you can't take it down for something like non-payment. Thats what GOOD contracts and civil courts are for.
Bob Hassel Animal Nuisance Control
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Re: I Guess We're Not The Only Ones
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
#4928978
02/22/15 11:38 PM
02/22/15 11:38 PM
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OH
Eric Arnold
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OH
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Honestly, it would depend on the dollar amount of the job. For anything under $500 I'd refer them to a collections agency. For anything over $500, I would walk to my truck and lock the doors. Then, while I am still on their property, I would call the local police department and tell them that I'd just been scammed out of X number of dollars and that I wanted to report the incident and have the former client charged with theft. Then I'd follow any directions given by the police for what I do next. As the lawyer at the WCT Seminar stated, you are entitled to receive compensation for work performed if they did not try and stop you regardless if they signed a contract or not. With this approach, I'd expect one of two things will happen. 1) the police will contact the individual and advise them that they should pay before they have to get any more involved with the case or 2) the police will write up a nice report on the incident stating that they recommended the client pay and the client refused. This report can then be submitted as evidence in court if necessary. One of the nice things with this approach is that if it goes to court, you may not have to pay anything if it can get classified as a criminal suit versus a civil suit. Here is a link that describes the differences between the two http://litigation.findlaw.com/filing-a-lawsuit/civil-cases-vs-criminal-cases-key-differences.html.
Eric Arnold Publishing Editor W.C.T. Magazine Editor The Fur Taker Magazine
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Re: I Guess We're Not The Only Ones
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
#4929202
02/23/15 06:59 AM
02/23/15 06:59 AM
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Southwest Michigan
Michigan Trappin
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Southwest Michigan
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Would the persons yard just become your new release site. Won't get you paid but sure would make me feel better
Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!
If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
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Re: I Guess We're Not The Only Ones
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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02/24/15 08:28 PM
02/24/15 08:28 PM
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St. Louis area
Dave Schmidt
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St. Louis area
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Eric, has that call-the-cops gambit worked for you? I would expect the dispatcher to tell me it's a civil case, not their bailiwick.
ALL OUT Wildlife Control
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Re: I Guess We're Not The Only Ones
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
#4932791
02/24/15 10:06 PM
02/24/15 10:06 PM
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OH
Eric Arnold
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OH
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Dave,
I haven't had to do this with the wildlife business, but I've had issues where the police had to be contacted on matters that could be classified as either civil suit or criminal suit. In terms of civil versus criminal, when 1) the client hired you with no intent to pay and deprived you of property with no intent to pay or 2) any act, omission, or concealment calculated to deceive another to their advantage it is a criminal offense. Whether it is pursued and charged this way from a prosecutor is a different matter. This is why I feel it is so important to call from the job site immediately versus leaving and trying to collect later.
Can I see the police not wanting to bother with it, yes, especially when it is below a certain financial threshold (like when I had $100 worth of traps stolen from a job site). But when it exceeds a certain amount (seems to be about $500 around me) they tend to take a different outlook on the matter.
Last edited by WCT; 02/24/15 10:08 PM.
Eric Arnold Publishing Editor W.C.T. Magazine Editor The Fur Taker Magazine
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