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Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC #5470543
03/23/16 09:40 AM
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Deep Channeling with a 660+ Belisle

This is a method I've come up with and kept under wraps for a few years. Planned on making an ADC Video on it but have decided instead- to show it to the Tman family.

Many times over the past 30 years I have come across Deep channel beaver runs... this one Was in a Bog on an ADC Job back in 2012. Deep water entrances and deep water channels can many times present a problem when a Person is given the job of Removal of every last Beaver in the colony; and on a pay job there is no option so the job has to get done and hopefully quick.



10"x 29" Vertically set 660 Custom tall stand


As you can see the Beaver was caught just behind the head in the 660 Belisle and picture shows Vertical set trap worked like a charm. Traps were pulled Up out of the water for Picture to be taken. Beaver removed and lowered again for another Catch.


Traps were pulled out of the water from their deep-set location for Pictures all the 660 Vertical sets were 90 to 100% submerged upon finishing the set.

Sometimes in a Deep channel Bog it takes a lot of work getting all the Beaver out after catching them. I used a floating cooler holder here.



I make and use 6' cable extensions on all my Bodygrip traps,many times in a Bog there will be little solid stuff to secure the trap and stand to...so snapping on another 6' extension to make 12 or even 18'is needed to secure. These traps are not cheap, but very effective on an ADC Job.


Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5470566
03/23/16 10:00 AM
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Dandy idea.


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Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5470576
03/23/16 10:06 AM
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Cool! Thanks for sharing!


I'm just happy to be here! Today I'm as young as I'll ever be and and older than I've ever been before!
Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5470869
03/23/16 02:27 PM
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Looks like a good idea. But not legal in my state.

Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5470959
03/23/16 03:42 PM
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Love it! Makes some 160's like that for rats lol!

Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471186
03/23/16 07:11 PM
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That would work Wolfdog !!! smile


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Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471204
03/23/16 07:24 PM
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I will be building some of those stands. Thank you sir for the info.

Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471213
03/23/16 07:30 PM
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Very cool. Thanks for sharing. Invaluable information all over this website.

Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471261
03/23/16 08:16 PM
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Boco has already done that

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Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471352
03/23/16 09:34 PM
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Well done Sir!

Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471414
03/23/16 10:13 PM
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Now ya tell me!....and all these years Ive been hacking away with a tile spade, and make the ditch fit the trap...LOL...and all along I coulda just turned the durn trap!...looks like you went the brain over braun option, and I went other way, LOL

Good tip Scott

I like a cable that quick detaches at the trap too like you use...I use a snap link at end of cable, and a no 6 mini swivel ferruled to end of cable, a 1/4 snap link just fits thru the eye...I thread 2 twist loop chain links onto spring eye, and it also gives a good trap tag anchor point on a trap devoid of all chain or cable

Last edited by Rich Kaspar; 03/23/16 10:19 PM.

If you are considering yourself to be someone of influence and importance, just try ordering someone elses dog around sometime.
Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471433
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Way cool!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471438
03/23/16 10:28 PM
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Rich, I put the first of these Stands together several years ago after Using Stacked 33o's in deep channels for over 25 years... and had hopes of getting a friend to help me make a Deep channel Video Featuring the benefits of vertical 660+'s ...

***and just so Everyone young on here knows... Rich Kaspar first invented the 660 trap and Sells the kits to make your traps into 660s.

I call mine 660+'s because I use Belisles and sometimes make them up to 29 inches.


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Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471460
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Ive made some of them Besliles over the years too, usually for some ADC customers.......myself Im too clumsy for em and they make my thumb HURT too much..LOL...for about 6 weeks

I made a doz 14" wide besliles for a state adc guy once, he wanted a tight nearly normal sized trap that wouldnt bend over time, also made a flay laying dog on them like the stock beslile dogs, with super heavy 3/16 triggers...that was a heck of a trap!

I remember you was one of the first guys to take a chance on those 660s year ago, and prolly have as much experience as anyone over the years Scott, and would be the perfect guy to make a 660 DVD, go for it should you ever want to Scott!

I always reffered to them as 660 FB's----like as in Finger Breakers, LOL

Scott, have you ever caught 2 beavers in one 660? Ive managed to do it twice over the years, in the spring usually in a side ditch connected to a river when the beaver are going nuts......twice Ive had a sprung 660 (any Im sure you know how rare THAT is), and looking around a little, had dead rat close by...usually they catch them, and prolly 10-15 mink over the years too

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Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471474
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Originally Posted By: 330-Trapper
Rich, I put the first of these Stands together several years ago after Using Stacked 33o's in deep channels for over 25 years... and had hopes of getting a friend to help me make a Deep channel Video Featuring the benefits of vertical 660+'s ...

***and just so Everyone young on here knows... Rich Kaspar first invented the 660 trap and Sells the kits to make your traps into 660s.

I call mine 660+'s because I use Belisles and sometimes make them up to 29 inches.

I'm not young lol, but good to know. After all these years of trapping I've decided to go after 2 critters that I've never trapped. Coyote and beaver. I'm gearing up!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: Rich Kaspar] #5471702
03/24/16 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rich Kaspar
Ive made some of them Besliles over the years too, usually for some ADC customers.......myself Im too clumsy for em and they make my thumb HURT too much..LOL...for about 6 weeks

I made a doz 14" wide besliles for a state adc guy once, he wanted a tight nearly normal sized trap that wouldnt bend over time, also made a flay laying dog on them like the stock beslile dogs, with super heavy 3/16 triggers...that was a heck of a trap!

I remember you was one of the first guys to take a chance on those 660s year ago, and prolly have as much experience as anyone over the years Scott, and would be the perfect guy to make a 660 DVD, go for it should you ever want to Scott!

I always reffered to them as 660 FB's----like as in Finger Breakers, LOL

Scott, have you ever caught 2 beavers in one 660? Ive managed to do it twice over the years, in the spring usually in a side ditch connected to a river when the beaver are going nuts......twice Ive had a sprung 660 (any Im sure you know how rare THAT is), and looking around a little, had dead rat close by...usually they catch them, and prolly 10-15 mink over the years too


Rich, I've caught 2 beaver in one 660 yes, small but still 2- and dozens of Rats and Mink over the years.




and On one ADC spring Job...

Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5471774
03/24/16 09:18 AM
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I like the picture of the trap with saplings through the eye and spring.

It's a total lockdown of the run.

A) Through the jaws;

B) Turn around;

C) Do some climbing.

I like that it's denying use of the run.

Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5472144
03/24/16 01:33 PM
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Scott,I bet you dont get many fired traps either do ya.....prolly get some tail/foot catches?

I definatly see some extra catches in those 660+ youve got.....and no doubt a level in performance better no doubt....I kinda set rough and quick, and gets to be a bit more finesse than Im accustomed to, to keep my fingers intact....they do seem a bit "hairyer" to work with as theyve got a fair amount more spring tension in set position, which seems to make a more nimble trigger tension, and Ive no doubt the tension and tighter jaws give a higher overall catch rate.....Im just too much a bull in a china cabinet setting traps..LOL

On twin catches, I had 2 yearlings like your pic, although they were a little bigger in late spring my area, the 2nd one was an xl-lr 2 year old on the large size, and a ave adult for the 2nd one....still had enough jaw left to squeeze a pup in , LOL?

I get alot of Beaver Plus stick at dam sets......reg 330s i just get the stick most of time....these days maybe the stick is the "keeper" of the 2...LOL

like your rat pic, almost "de-guts" them dont they......usually Ill see a sprung trap w/o a catch, and ready cuzz a little, and closer looksee usually its a rat catch.......Im gonna say, if I dont set a lot of high current/high debris sets, Im prolly running close to 90% sprung traps/catches, educated guess....Id about guess your pushing pretty close to 100% catch rates?

I might be a little wet on my catch rates in all honesty....as its been a few years since Ive done a lot of beaver trapping, and time always seems to makes things a little better than reality Ill confess....everything always seems, better, bigger, more fun, and less wet and cold ...that what the brain wants to tell ya....curious what you think your more receint in memoiry catch rates run?

Last edited by Rich Kaspar; 03/24/16 01:43 PM.

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Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5472163
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looks like my words Beaver Plus, turned into a plug for some of Pauls lure......LOL.....all I can say, if its a beaver lure, and its Paul's, that it works and works real good!


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Re: Deep Channeling 660+ Beaver ADC [Re: 330-Trapper] #5472164
03/24/16 01:46 PM
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You are Right Rich... With the 660's in the 22" and the 26 to 29" I have made (Mostly from your Kits for the Trigger and Dog) I have found almost No sprung Traps.

I Even caught Just a large inside portion of a beavers Castor in the 660.

And had to work hard to finish that ADC job on a spooked (no doubt) beaver that was swimming around with only One Gland left. I posted that picture on here, no one had ever had that happen to them and many suggested that someone was playing a joke on me by putting that large gland into my trap.
A wile later I had pulled all Bodygrip traps from this Creek line, left the beaver to calm down and came back a couple weeks later to Nab 2 remaining adults: lo and behold one of them upon skinning had only ONE Castor gland. It had been caught I believe setting off that 660 and was nabbed by the hind squeezed out of the trap leaving part of the beaver with the trap.
Skeptics aside here is the actual photo.


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