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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5696231
11/10/16 05:39 PM
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That looks a lot more difficult then setting wires for rabbits. I used either " picture wire" for the long eared field chickens or spun my own 4 strand brass. Brass closes real easy. May be worth a try is legal where you are. Brass worked a charm for squirrels as well.

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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5696232
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What makes you think a smaller loop is the answer, if they are bulldozing them?


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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5696262
11/10/16 06:26 PM
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Again while I lack experience in snaring I know dillers and I suspect you're right on body snaring them.
Loop size is going to be the thing. Big enough to get one or both front feet through but small enough to fire on the hump of the back. Ideally snug up on the bands in the middle.


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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: MJM] #5696294
11/10/16 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: MJM
What makes you think a smaller loop is the answer, if they are bulldozing them?



I think that a loop only as big as needed would work better, because any additional loop can hit the shell and fail.


In my mind, I thought that a small loop with the supported cable below would let only the loop around the neck without any other part of the snare getting in the way. That's how it was supposed to work at least

Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5696307
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I have never tried to snare a armadillo. If a animal is bulldozing the snare one of three things are most common. The snare is not centered on the trail. The loop is at the wrong height or the loop is too small. I can see how the support wire on the bottom may help with armadillos.


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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5696333
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I don't see how that could possibly help. If you've ever watched a diller on the move you'll realize it's nose is almost always in contact with the ground.


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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5696337
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This post is too much fun. Inna see if I can stay quiet a like longer lol !

Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5696382
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I'm running the same play again tonight with the 3 snares. No video on the camera from last night, so I repositioned the trail cam.

I set the spool on the ground with the camera as high as I could slide it. I didn't want to disturb the trail too much, so I cut the grass about 3-4 feet off of the trail, but I left the shallow row of grass standing on ground side of the trail, except the gap I cut at the snare itself. (Hope he doesn't go where I cut)


Anyway, it's on 20 sec video, so hopefully I'll get something to learn from on camera. It's setup at about 90 degrees from the trail. It would have been nice to be able to set it shooting down the trail. Maybe I can build something that I can attach a 1/4" bolt to attach the camera to and hold the camera angled where I need it to....




Now we wait...





It's nice that those jokers aren't spooky! Can you imagine trying to catch a coyote that hits steel resistance 3 times a night, every night? I would think he'd be at leads a little spooked eventually...

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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: warrior] #5697131
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Update Today will be this afternoon.



Originally Posted By: warrior
I don't see how that could possibly help. If you've ever watched a diller on the move you'll realize it's nose is almost always in contact with the ground.


Right. That's why my loop is at ground level now and the rest of the cable is at ground level as well. Hopefully all parts of the diller will pass over the rest of the cable.

Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5697704
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Been a busy busy afternoon, company just left.


I got some video footage. Will post tomorrow. Kinda stinks lol

Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5697810
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How old do the dillers get ?? It may hand in its chips before you get a wire on it grin


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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Scuba1] #5697974
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Update

Last night we had a house party. Even with the snares being so close to home, I didn't have a chance to go setup the snares and camera. They're setup for tonight.


On Thursday night though, I got some video footage. Unfortunately, it was a GRINNER! I have trapped dillers on trails that looked exactly like that. I kind of hope that it's been grinners this whole time, because it would mean that I'd get a fresh start on dillers.


My dad lives about 400 yards from my house, and his yard is heavily cratered by dillers. I'm going to be hunting for multiple diller trails to set heavily so that I can finally wrap this project up soon. I realize that this probably can end as a disappointment to those following this thread, but I'm not giving up. I'm going to get one by the neck or I'm going to start body snaring them. I just need to verify that I'm on a diller trail and not a grinner trail and continue my quest! I encourage all of you to try snaring fillets too, because we're all in it together on this thread!







Originally Posted By: Scuba1
How old do the dillers get ?? It may hand in its chips before you get a wire on it grin



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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5697975
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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: Aix sponsa] #5697978
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OK, I'm going make a suggestion that goes against EVERYTHING we all know about snaring. Put your support wire for your snare dead center in the middle of the trail, have your support raise the snare no more than an inch off the ground and use about a 3-4 inch loop. have your lock at the bottom of the snare, centered in the trail.


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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: newhouse114] #5697985
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Originally Posted By: newhouse114
OK, I'm going make a suggestion that goes against EVERYTHING we all know about snaring. Put your support wire for your snare dead center in the middle of the trail, have your support raise the snare no more than an inch off the ground and use about a 3-4 inch loop. have your lock at the bottom of the snare, centered in the trail.





Take a look on page 2 of this thread. The post I made with pictures of 3 snares.....the one I said looks like a miniature leg snare.........is that not what you're describing?

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Almost, I think that with a dillar's body shape you need to have the snare SHORT, and at least semi anchored dead center of the trail. A vertical loop with the lock on the bottom. This way the loop can hit behind the head, but in front of the body, and tighten on the critter's throat.


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Re: ------Snaring Armadillos [Re: newhouse114] #5698375
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Originally Posted By: newhouse114
Almost, I think that with a dillar's body shape you need to have the snare SHORT, and at least semi anchored dead center of the trail. A vertical loop with the lock on the bottom. This way the loop can hit behind the head, but in front of the body, and tighten on the critter's throat.



I understand what you're saying. That sounds like a good approach.

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if a dillers nose is always on the ground, why not put the bottom of the snare on the ground or even below ground level in a small finger width "ditch" cut into the ground.
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Originally Posted By: Ridge Runner1960
if a dillers nose is always on the ground, why not put the bottom of the snare on the ground or even below ground level in a small finger width "ditch" cut into the ground.
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Another good idea. I'm going to check the trail camera today, and if I don't see a diller I'm going to have to regroup and relocate. I can't snare a diller if I only have grinners on that trail!


I can see it now---someone else is going to beat me to snaring a diller, because I've been jacking around with a dang grinner trail. I have to find a hot trail to set, and by hot I don't mean grinner hot.

[b]The clock is tickin'. I'm going to be out of pocket in a couple days. I'll have to pick it back up after thanksgiving. Someone else will have done it before me if I don't step up my game soon!

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If I were trying to use a snare on an armadillo I would set the snare in a small trench about one and a half to two inches deep. Use some sort of sand or mud from a barrel as Airport trapper has shown on each side of the snare. I would use a smaller cable than a 3/32 beaver snare. He would be less likely to nose under the snare and nose into the snare.


Set the loop at 5-6 inches with 4-5 inches out of the ground. Use a half circle plate about 7" in diameter if it were a full circle. The plate should be about a 3/4" plate. Place it with the half side up. Pound in ground until your optimum depth is achieved. That will make trench. If you pound in the trench I believe the armadillo would be less likely to nose into the trench and displace the snare. You dig the trench and the armadillo might dig also.

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