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Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? #6112574
01/04/18 10:18 AM
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Wanting to get more traps and I prefer dogless any body having issues with the #2?

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112582
01/04/18 10:22 AM
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None . Shorten the pan notch a little and level the pan . Great trap .

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112589
01/04/18 10:27 AM
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what are you using them for? If it is mostly coyotes I would look into the NO B.S. Jr.


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112787
01/04/18 12:57 PM
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IMO the offset gap in this trap is too wide. I've had issues. Reduce the gap if you're smart.

If coyotes is your game, I'd definitely go with the #3s.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112854
01/04/18 01:57 PM
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Have pictures of 250 to 300 in Bridger 2's full pad catch. I don't have any problems.No tinkering and all that. Level the pan,shorten chain,swivels to my liking and go trap.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112864
01/04/18 02:02 PM
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Anyone know if there are any plans to offer them without the offset. tbn were they the dogless?

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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112876
01/04/18 02:11 PM
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I have had a dozen #3's and I have no complaints at all. I did add an extra swivel but other than that they were ready to go.


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112885
01/04/18 02:19 PM
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Yes dogless,that is the only trap I will use and have for 3 seasons now.Coon,cats,skunks,coyotes,badger it doesn't matter.Go set one,push down on the pan where it hooks the jaw and watch it go snap. Then go push down on the dog on your dog on traps and report back.No dead spot on the pan on the dogless bridgers.Once the pan is set,you rarely have to dink with it again unless to tighten it up after a catch but I don't really worry much about that either when I am busy.I want the skunks and coon so a little loose pan doesn't bother me anyway.Keep in mind,I am on a 24 hour check.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112920
01/04/18 02:41 PM
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I'd just thought there would be more issue with pull outs. Good to hear.


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112924
01/04/18 02:43 PM
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I don't post pictures but follow SwampWolfs thread he uses them too.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112936
01/04/18 02:56 PM
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No dead spot is not always good. Yes I use both dogless and dog on traps.
I prefer the dogless design of the Victor/ Montgomery’s


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6112949
01/04/18 03:04 PM
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I use bridger #2 dogless just for coyotes. The pan tension is too high for fox

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6113053
01/04/18 04:29 PM
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In that post about why people don't post here anymore,there is a reason.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6113075
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You don't like it when people post or have a diffent oppinon then you do you tbn? Why is that I have read quit a few post of yours and you are always right never wrong. You are 100% correct about no dead spot, but I have had nothing but problems with the Bridger Dogless number 3. Can't say much for the 2's haven't tried them. Have I made catches with the 3's sure have, have I had pull outs you bet more then I would like. How many pull out were coyotes or cats? Hard to say I know most coon have pulled out with way to much foot damage. Does that mean the Bridger Dogless is a bad trap? nope it mean it don't work for me.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: VH60] #6113098
01/04/18 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: VH60
None . Shorten the pan notch a little and level the pan . Great trap .

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The offset gap is bigger than most and I've lost a few coon here and there but for cat and coyote they work great. A guy could take a grinder and knock down the high side wouldn't take much at all. Still my goto trap




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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6113103
01/04/18 05:01 PM
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I've been using them for the past 2 seasons and like them. In my opinion, they are a little more work to fine tune than other dog on traps but nothing major. I have the offset modified which have some sharp edges along where the offset starts.

I love the low profile pan that doesn't allow much to get under it when its set level.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6113240
01/04/18 06:51 PM
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Bridger dogless coil springs might not be for everyone's conditions but down here they are turning out to be just about perfect. This is my second winter using them. Only had 1 dozen last year. Have 9 dozen now.

Offset is a bit wide but you can take a hand grinder and take off a small amount at the 4 corners and reduce the gap without affecting lockup.

I file the pan latch to shorten the nighlatch. And adjust pan level.

I put my custom chains on them simply because I have them.

I've always been a "no offset traps" trapper, but these being square jawed, the offset may allow the trap to lock up better on a coyote or bcat foot.

Ive had a few new...out of the box, that had spring too weak. 3 out of 60...so far.


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6113352
01/04/18 08:10 PM
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I'm a fan. I bought a dozen #2 and a dozen #3 dogless Bridgers this year just to give them a try also, and I absolutely love them. They bed nice and flat and when dyed and waxed the #2 is a perfect fox/coyote trap IMO. Initially I thought the #2 might not be enough for our larger coyotes, but I have now been proved completely wrong on that; full pad catches on all, and so far only one spring pin bent slightly that I straightened with my pliers. I've released one timber wolf in a #2 also; no damage to trap or wolf. I will have at least another dozen #2s before next fall. smile

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6113429
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Bridger #2 Dogless are my go to trap now. I've been running them for 2 years now. A couple, simple, quick adjustments and they are ready to roll. I have noticed though some I've bought come with the baseplate welded and some were not.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6113494
01/04/18 09:20 PM
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Great traps. Add a swivel and laminate.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6113521
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Thanks for all the feed back. I'll be using them for coyotes. I've expanded my trap line,got permission for two more ranches, and I am always concerned about theft. In the next few years I'll probably be moving so I wanted to go with the number two's and be compliant with most states. Plus I can get more traps in the ground for the price.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #6113579
01/04/18 10:07 PM
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I guess I'm in the minority. I may have just gotten a bad batch, but I wasn't impressed with mine. Fit was very rough. Hard to level the pan with the adjustment bolt. Wouldn't move enough. Had to file the back of the pan ALOT just to get enough room between it and the jaw to make the trap fire. Even then, it was exceedingly close. Had a few in the field that wouldn't fire after a catch, and had to be removed to carry home and be worked on. I like the concept for blind and post sets in particular, but I doubt I will be buying anymore

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887453
06/18/23 05:42 PM
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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887551
06/18/23 08:29 PM
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Well...after several years (7 or 8 years) of using B2 dogless, almost exclusively, for southern coyotes and bcats, I'm still satisfied. Ive bought 11 dozen new in box. Took about 3 seasons to completely convert over to this trap. I'm down to 10 dozen due to damage from landowners and loggers. I've had more than a dozen damaged, but have ordered parts and repaired several over the years .

But, there were/are some minor negatives:

1) there were about 10% of the traps (new out of the box) that had noticeably weak springs. I added the Bridger 4-coil springs b4 I used these.
2) I've lost about 5 or 6 coons out of 100. Likely front foot toe catches. Also, the #2 sized square jawed trap allows plenty of room for chewing and the slightly too wide offset jaw gap enables pull outs. This isn't a front foot coon trap, but it performs fine when a backfoot catch is made.
3) this trap (with no laminated jaws) is a little rough on foxes feet, especially grey fox. I have lost a couple of greys, that were likely toe caught, over the years. Again, the wider offset jaw gap contributes to this.
4) over time, several traps have been found to have weakening springs. Not sure if this is related to my initial issue of a few with weak springs when new. I've added 4-coil springs to more than 48 traps out of 132 purchased so far.
5) pan tension loosens with catches...but tightens easily.

The positives:

1) No dogs to get bent!
2) Consistent/crisp firing trap.
3) Easy to adjust pan level and tension (takes about 3 min per trap.)
4) Chains and swivels are sufficient.
5) Very easy and fast to bed solid.
6) Good lockup.
7) Sets very level with minimal tuning.
8) Well built/good steel.

The only mods I've done to mine are, a) the extra springs, b) slightly shortening the pan notch and squaring it up, c) slightly grinding the lower jaw faces to close offset gap some, d) put my custom chains on them...cause I had them from traps I sold.

TAKEAWAY: B2 dogless are pretty good coyote and bcat traps. Jaw lams would make them better grey fox traps. As red fox traps they are good due to their bigger feet. As coon traps = too big of a trap with too wide of offset gap (find a better sized trap for coons.)

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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887554
06/18/23 08:35 PM
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… listen to swamp … I run several dozen and they do need 4 coil from experience… got 3 years stock 2 coil then had a few pullouts on coyote and cat .. 2 right as I was walking up

… I ordered enough helpers to get all them 4 coiled wether they need it or not


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887621
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I've been using 4 coiled dogless #3 Bridgers for 8 years. Almost zero issues, with no pullouts. I also laminated them and added another swivel. I've always said, if the Bridger is sprung, there's a critter in it. I also run NoBs Extremes, 4 coiled. They are a beast of a trap. I'll never go back to a dog on canine trap.

Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887646
06/18/23 11:57 PM
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My Bridger dogless do a fine job but I already had quite a few of the little Montana Coyote Specials and I love them.
They are easily the easiest traps I've ever used and like LDW, they snap I have fur. It's just that simple.


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887649
06/19/23 12:06 AM
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While I haven't used them IMO any dogless system that has nuts and bolts to adjust pan tension or height is missing the point.


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: warrior] #7887691
06/19/23 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by warrior
While I haven't used them IMO any dogless system that has nuts and bolts to adjust pan tension or height is missing the point.

Catch up to modern times.

The best aspect of dogless is NO foot throw out, but....

...the reason I like this adjustable dogless pan system is simple: to be able to adjust pan tension and level. Can't do that with the Victor/Montgomery type dogless system. Pan tension is what it it when the trap is set with a floppy pan.


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887705
06/19/23 06:24 AM
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Bridger #2 and #3 dogless is just about all I run the last few years for coyote. I moved away from my old #2 longs mostly because they don’t make those any more and I use them in my more mixed species areas. Targeting just coyote, I absolutely love my #2 Bridger dogless. The threes grab a little high but I get few misses in them. I use those more in open corn or bean fields. For mowed pasture and other areas I set, I grab the #2s,
Mine are all modified MN Trapline models with laminated jaws. They came four coiled but I took the extra springs off and run them just two coiled.
I have not found a flaw in the #2 Bridger dogless yet. Coyotes, cats, fox, badger, coon, it’s a great trap.
I ask for them specifically now for Christmas or Father’s Day to build up my supply. I wish I had four more dozen of them.
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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887803
06/19/23 08:14 AM
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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887841
06/19/23 09:17 AM
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Don't own any but notice everyone mentioning weak springs. I order music wire springs and put on any bridger trap i get! Even if springs are ok first year by year two they are week plus they have that goofy L shaped spring, have had coyotes be able to get a tooth under that and flip it off the lever. I finally just quit fooling with it and replace springs with new music wire springs soon as i get the traps out of the box.

Gap being too big, pullouts, etc. Im assuming ya'll are using standard jaws, not laminated jaws?


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Jtrapper] #7887880
06/19/23 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Don't own any but notice everyone mentioning weak springs. I order music wire springs and put on any bridger trap i get! Even if springs are ok first year by year two they are week plus they have that goofy L shaped spring, have had coyotes be able to get a tooth under that and flip it off the lever. I finally just quit fooling with it and replace springs with new music wire springs soon as i get the traps out of the box.

Gap being too big, pullouts, etc. Im assuming ya'll are using standard jaws, not laminated jaws?

Yes...none of mine are laminated. I quit all those welding-related mods when my live market days ended.


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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887882
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Re: Cons of Bridger #2 dogless? [Re: Koss2005] #7887885
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Yes...none of mine are laminated. I quit all those welding-related mods when my live market days ended

I know that's what got us southern folks on that kick BUT they do increase holding power! Im still a shock spring advocate was well, ANYTHING that makes it a tad tougher for that joker to get out of the trap im all for it. Do all that work only to have something fail and they escape was something I never could deal with.


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