Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 06:11 PM
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Well i have owned several 25-06's over the years in various different makes-models. I feel that the 100 gr. bullets may be fine up to 300 yds. after that i feel its best to move to a heavier bullet gaining better ballistic coefficientcy and the sectional densities for larger game will be there at all ranges. The 25-06 my wife shoots now is spittin' Sierra 117 gr. BT Gameking's. And it shines with H4831sc at about 3/4 capacity. On elk, the bullets hold up good. She has take 4 cows in the last two years and not needed a second shot except for one this season. When these bullets are used up on gophers this spring we will be loading up some 120 gr. Nosler Partitions and some Hornady SSt 117's. The best grouper will win. Only because i feel these bullets perform better on elk/mule deer. She will never shoot over 500 yds. with that particular rifle and these bullets will do just fine. I am not a fan of the solid copper frangible stuff or the Barnes line, but that is just my opinion based on experiences.
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 06:14 PM
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I'm a fan of 25-06. Have tipped over just about everything from Alaska moose and brown bears to coyotes with it. In my opinion, the all-purpose rifle. Did have problems shooting little Sitka black-tailed deer with it, as head shots invariably blood-shot a lot of neck meat. Slowed it down and increased bullet weight, and had no problems afterward. Tack-driver.
Jack
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 06:24 PM
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I shoot one all the time. It’s a great caliber. Great all round gun. Started all 4 of my boys shooting with it.
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
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01/20/18 06:38 PM
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Anyone use they’er 25 for coyote ? I’ve been told they handle a 70 gr. bullet pretty well ! I have one that I use for my long range coyote rifle. I shoot 50 grs. of 4350 behind a hornady 75gr hp. I've fooled a few that stand out there and think they are out of range. Not much fur damage either.
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 08:24 PM
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Mr Whitaker,
The are certainly a lot of good bullets available for the .257" bore. A lot more than what we were offered 20 years ago, that's for sure.
I found the Sierras to be rather "soft" in the 25's. YMMV.
Now, I prefer 2 holes, one in and one out.
On the cheap, and very robust is the 100 gr NBT. On broadside shots I have always gotten an exit. There is however a lot of stress on a bullet when it impacts at high velocity. Therefore, if I was looking for a good all around Deer bullet, I would look to the 100gr TTSX, the 100/115gr NPT, and the 110 NAB. And in no particular order. I could hunt the rest of my life with any of those in full confidence as long as the accuracy is there.
I think you are right on track velocity wise with your choice of RL22.
Scott
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 08:38 PM
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Who on here has real experience loading or shooting a 25-06? Never thought I would like one, but I bought one last year and think she is a keeper! I bought a Remington 700 long range. Now I know alot of you don't like remingtons, especially the new ones, but to each his own. I put a timney trigger in it to fix the stock junk triggers they are putting in them,and bolted a vortex viper on the top. I am currently loading 100 gr Sierra matchkings in front of rl22 and this thing shoots. I guess my only problem is that I want a better bullet to shoot deer with. I killed my best buck ever this year with this set up. Matchkings aren't supposed to be hunting bullets and I know that. What bullet would you guys recommend to try? I am not looking for load data, I have about every manual there is. Good hunting bullets aren't cheap and I am so I don't want to buy 5 different bullets to try. Sorry for such a run on post. Thanks for any and all help! I would not change a thing. Those Seirra MK bullets flat out kill deer size game. I had a couple different 25-06. Re-barreled the last one into a 6.5-06 ackley. I use a 123gr. Seirra MK w/54.5gr IMR4350.. it’s a deer killing machine. And I’ve shot several with it. Every bullet performed flawlessly.
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 09:35 PM
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As a cartridge the 25-06 is very capable of extreme accuracy, It can way outperform the many cartridges, let alone most shooters abilities. It is one of my "if i could only own one gun" picks but not my personal top choice, mainly because i am an elk hunter first. But that is mostly because of where i live. Yes-the 25-06 is more than capable of this but your thread was about a deer round. One thing i should mention is if you have it reamed to an Improved chamber ( 40 degree shoulder) you will have less pressures, and much longer case life, and some gained velocity. The decreased pressures will also slow down on throat erosion or barrel burning.
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 10:32 PM
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I am probably making a mountain out of a mole hill with worrying about the bullet. I have used them for a while in my 22-250 and don't think any coyotes noticed they weren't hunting bullets. I am gonna try some of your suggestions though. I have always used a 30-06 or 7 mag to kill deer. Never worried much about them running off then.
One observation I did notice while working up loads is that the faster I ran them the tighter they grouped. I stopped before I got to the max book load so don't think I was hot rodding this thing. I got over the speed obsession. Just wondered if anyone has ever noticed that too with a 25? Yes, almost to the rifle. A good bulky powder giveing high load densities (and high velocities) have usually given me the best accuracy. I load for a lot of cartridges, some mine, some families, and some for friends. And this has been a common thread among them. Now, I do NOT push my 1926 Savage 99, or my pre 64 Win 94. But in modern iron, I am not afraid to run up to 64000psi.
Scott
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 10:36 PM
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Have had 2 and regret selling them! Nosller partitions will handle coyotes to moose.
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 10:49 PM
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I shot that deer slightly quartering away at about 250yds. Inside of boiler room was jello. The bullet didn't exit and was just shrapnel stuck under the skin in the opposite side. He ran 80 yards and dropped. Very little blood trail. I am just afraid if I hit a shoulder bone with this thin jacketed bullet traveling 3300+- fps it's gonna explode and not kill the deer. I am a decent shot under perfect conditions but nobody is perfect. That's the same discussion we had 2 months ago about my 6 mm. Reason I went to a 270 or a slug gun in really thick stuff because of no blood trail. The farm I hunt is so thick if I use the 6mm I shoot them in the neck. NTR NO TRACKING REQUIRED !!! It may be hard to find a bullet that will shoot and give you an exit wound. Good luck.
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Re: Any 25-06 fans out there?
[Re: billwhitakermo]
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01/20/18 10:56 PM
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I shot that deer slightly quartering away at about 250yds. Inside of boiler room was jello. The bullet didn't exit and was just shrapnel stuck under the skin in the opposite side. He ran 80 yards and dropped. Very little blood trail. I am just afraid if I hit a shoulder bone with this thin jacketed bullet traveling 3300+- fps it's gonna explode and not kill the deer. I am a decent shot under perfect conditions but nobody is perfect. LOL NOT KILL THE DEER ???? You shoot him in the shoulder with that bullet and I will assure you he is dead. If you hit him and it explodes in his shoulder you will do the number one thing required to kill a "big " game animal. YOU WILL break him down in his front end. I know just shoot smaller deer !!! Don't take as much to get through them . LOL
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