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Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167413
02/23/18 11:47 AM
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Spot on heard the same thing.

But when I sold to him he didn't turn down any coon (I didn't have any). But that was In Jan so things may have changed.


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Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: The Beav] #6167438
02/23/18 12:11 PM
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What to believe, eh Beav? From the WTA rondy the weekend following Labor Day weekend . . .

NAFA said they only wanted 3X and larger 'coon.

Fur Harvesters said they wanted only early blue 'coon.

And Groeney said he wanted no 'coon.


Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167441
02/23/18 12:13 PM
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Lots of confusion when It comes to the coon market.


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Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167444
02/23/18 12:14 PM
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Sold couple weeks ago , bought all my coon I had.. Didnt have a truck load though either.. I did cherry pick through all my big ones lmao.

Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167454
02/23/18 12:26 PM
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anyone know if they buy PA fur??









Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167467
02/23/18 12:34 PM
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Supposed to be higher auction prices this season for rat an coon the fall nafa magazine say an that what nafa reps are saying

Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167512
02/23/18 12:56 PM
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Wta yeah that makes sense because Iowa coon are the best in country like new york has the best rats

Tbn...u gettin paid by LiL to be so nice hahahahahahahahahahaha

Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: Muskrat] #6167513
02/23/18 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: Muskrat
What to believe, eh Beav? From the WTA rondy the weekend following Labor Day weekend . . .

NAFA said they only wanted 3X and larger 'coon.

Fur Harvesters said they wanted only early blue 'coon.

And Groeney said he wanted no 'coon.



It’s apparent that they all have a different outlet? Or somebody is not telling the whole truth?



Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167521
02/23/18 01:03 PM
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Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: coonman220] #6167529
02/23/18 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: coonman220
Supposed to be higher auction prices this season for rat an coon the fall nafa magazine say an that what nafa reps are saying

And the same was said last year


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Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167531
02/23/18 01:12 PM
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Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167535
02/23/18 01:16 PM
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speculators are whats driving the gas prices up and the fur prices down


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Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167557
02/23/18 01:48 PM
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When I talked tom Guy at the NTA he said coon would be cheap, not a thing about not wanting them. Their blog on their site prior to season said the exact same thing....It also stated that things could change.

Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: tbn] #6167565
02/23/18 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: tbn
Dave,when you are dealing with 5x coon with no defects in the leather it stands to reason that collection will do better than anything we have seen.Besides,those coon brought over $20 a year ago and throw out the doubles,for what coon do sell,he will have the majority of the best coon at auction.I can't say I have ever witnessed so many clean coon in a season.


I see no mention of any other sizes.

Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167775
02/23/18 05:31 PM
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I may be all wrong but as I recall, there was a bunch of Chinese buyers who bought heavily, got caught by their own govt for not paying the tariff on raw materials imports, and backed out of paying for the 1/2 million coon they’d bought. This left NAFA awash in unsold coon and other things. On top of this, Trappers and coon hunters were still sending a bumper crop of hides to NAFA. About then the ruble crashed and there was no demand for western fur made into garments by China to be sold to the Russians. Coats and finished goods couldn’t be sold meaning manufacturers were backed up. With no one wanting fresh goods, prices paid tumbled. And yet fur harvesting went on. Anything that was prime, well put up and meeting the limited demand of the few buyers left got paid a little. But if it wasn’t what the market wanted, it was not sold. Finally, NAFA had an everything-must-go sale and sold for pennies on the dollar just to give themselves (and us) some breathing room.

The dollar has fluctuated. Russian, Greek, Italian and Chinese buyers are cautiously buying again. Fashions, in the meantime have changed. Coon and ‘rats are out. Beaver is being used as felt. The market is flooded with ranch mink and ranch fox. Cats and coyotes seem to be holding their own. The market that exists for coon and ‘rats has a ways to go to be at the 2013 levels but decent fur has a chance. Blue coon, small ‘rats, shotgunned fur and poor put ups aren’t going to do well in this market. But Groenwald and NAFA and other international houses have been telling us this for a while now. It’s our own fault for not listening


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Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6167794
02/23/18 06:04 PM
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Your spot on teacher!

Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: Muskrat] #6167839
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Originally Posted By: Muskrat
What to believe, eh Beav? From the WTA rondy the weekend following Labor Day weekend . . .

Fur Harvesters said they wanted only early blue 'coon.


Originally Posted By: Teacher
Blue coon, small ‘rats, shotgunned fur and poor put ups aren’t going to do well in this market.



Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6168145
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Coon going strait to 0!!!

Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: Dave Plueger] #6168160
02/23/18 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dave Plueger
Your spot on teacher!


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Re: Sold to groeny today [Re: trapper20] #6169822
02/25/18 01:12 PM
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Locally I sold some big green Minnesota coon in early January and averaged around $7. We’re going to send some put up coon, some fox, a ‘rat or two and coyotes to NAFA to test that market. I have no illusions about what we’ll make nor when we’ll get paid, but we missed the last Groeny pick up and the freezer is needed for fish chunks for next season. This year has been a gamble against distemper, out of state funerals during trapping season, unknown fur prices and so on. We’ve done well getting some fur tanned and selling to people wanting man-cave wall hangers. I trap because I like trapping. And since my livelihood doesn’t depend on a fur check, I’ll continue to do so.


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