Re: Sold to groeny today
[Re: trapper20]
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02/23/18 11:47 AM
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The Beav
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Spot on heard the same thing.
But when I sold to him he didn't turn down any coon (I didn't have any). But that was In Jan so things may have changed.
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Re: Sold to groeny today
[Re: The Beav]
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02/23/18 12:11 PM
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What to believe, eh Beav? From the WTA rondy the weekend following Labor Day weekend . . . NAFA said they only wanted 3X and larger 'coon. Fur Harvesters said they wanted only early blue 'coon. And Groeney said he wanted no 'coon.
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Re: Sold to groeny today
[Re: trapper20]
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02/23/18 12:13 PM
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The Beav
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Lots of confusion when It comes to the coon market.
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Re: Sold to groeny today
[Re: Muskrat]
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02/23/18 12:56 PM
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What to believe, eh Beav? From the WTA rondy the weekend following Labor Day weekend . . . NAFA said they only wanted 3X and larger 'coon. Fur Harvesters said they wanted only early blue 'coon. And Groeney said he wanted no 'coon. It’s apparent that they all have a different outlet? Or somebody is not telling the whole truth?
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Re: Sold to groeny today
[Re: coonman220]
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02/23/18 01:11 PM
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Supposed to be higher auction prices this season for rat an coon the fall nafa magazine say an that what nafa reps are saying And the same was said last year
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Re: Sold to groeny today
[Re: trapper20]
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02/23/18 01:16 PM
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TONY.F
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speculators are whats driving the gas prices up and the fur prices down
LIVE LIFE LIKE THEIR IS NO TOMMORROW
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Re: Sold to groeny today
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02/23/18 01:50 PM
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Dave,when you are dealing with 5x coon with no defects in the leather it stands to reason that collection will do better than anything we have seen.Besides,those coon brought over $20 a year ago and throw out the doubles,for what coon do sell,he will have the majority of the best coon at auction.I can't say I have ever witnessed so many clean coon in a season. I see no mention of any other sizes.
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Re: Sold to groeny today
[Re: trapper20]
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02/23/18 05:31 PM
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I may be all wrong but as I recall, there was a bunch of Chinese buyers who bought heavily, got caught by their own govt for not paying the tariff on raw materials imports, and backed out of paying for the 1/2 million coon they’d bought. This left NAFA awash in unsold coon and other things. On top of this, Trappers and coon hunters were still sending a bumper crop of hides to NAFA. About then the ruble crashed and there was no demand for western fur made into garments by China to be sold to the Russians. Coats and finished goods couldn’t be sold meaning manufacturers were backed up. With no one wanting fresh goods, prices paid tumbled. And yet fur harvesting went on. Anything that was prime, well put up and meeting the limited demand of the few buyers left got paid a little. But if it wasn’t what the market wanted, it was not sold. Finally, NAFA had an everything-must-go sale and sold for pennies on the dollar just to give themselves (and us) some breathing room.
The dollar has fluctuated. Russian, Greek, Italian and Chinese buyers are cautiously buying again. Fashions, in the meantime have changed. Coon and ‘rats are out. Beaver is being used as felt. The market is flooded with ranch mink and ranch fox. Cats and coyotes seem to be holding their own. The market that exists for coon and ‘rats has a ways to go to be at the 2013 levels but decent fur has a chance. Blue coon, small ‘rats, shotgunned fur and poor put ups aren’t going to do well in this market. But Groenwald and NAFA and other international houses have been telling us this for a while now. It’s our own fault for not listening
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Re: Sold to groeny today
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02/23/18 11:26 PM
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Re: Sold to groeny today
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02/25/18 01:12 PM
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Locally I sold some big green Minnesota coon in early January and averaged around $7. We’re going to send some put up coon, some fox, a ‘rat or two and coyotes to NAFA to test that market. I have no illusions about what we’ll make nor when we’ll get paid, but we missed the last Groeny pick up and the freezer is needed for fish chunks for next season. This year has been a gamble against distemper, out of state funerals during trapping season, unknown fur prices and so on. We’ve done well getting some fur tanned and selling to people wanting man-cave wall hangers. I trap because I like trapping. And since my livelihood doesn’t depend on a fur check, I’ll continue to do so.
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