Re: Good Bye England!
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Well.... >40% of Russians are Muslim. I don’t know where you’re getting your data, or including former satellite countries but Russia is only about 6% Muslim- which is 6% too much. There's a law in Russia now that prohibits anybody from spreading religion. My pastor just got back from there, he got in trouble for preaching the gospel. The church that asked him to come didn't have the right paper work filled out for him. It's all straightened out now for my pastor, all charges and fines were dropped, but the reason the law was implemented was to keep the spread of the Muslim religion from spreading in Russia.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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I know a missionary in Greece who is surrounded by immigrants from Syria, Iraq, and other Mulsim majority countries. He says those expatriates are Muslim in name and heritage only and aren't very religious at all. He says they these immigrants that have left their home country are generally pretty fed up with all things Islam and the problems associated with it. He says they are searching for and eager to adopt a new culture and way of life. He says they are very open to new ideas and trying hard to assimilate into the Western ideals.
Of course, that's a generality. I'm sure there is likely more than a few Islamic zealots mixed in there as well. And there is plenty of evidence of the problems these mild-mannered Muslim immigrants are causing in France, Belgium, and Germany.
The point is... you can't assume all Muslims are the same. They are not. There's nothing to fear from the majority of them.
Still, taken on the whole, I dont' see any good reason for importing more of them into the U.S. Perhaps the whole world would be better off if the more reasonable people that immigrated out of these Middle Eastern nations would go back and rescue their home countries from the Islamic freaks that are stinking them all up.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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Well.... >40% of Russians are Muslim. I don’t know where you’re getting your data, or including former satellite countries but Russia is only about 6% Muslim- which is 6% too much. You're right, I was mistaken. I looked too quickly at the stats. Still...Russia probably has the most significant Muslim population for a "Euro-ish" country.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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I know a missionary in Greece who is surrounded by immigrants from Syria, Iraq, and other Mulsim majority countries. He says those expatriates are Muslim in name and heritage only and aren't very religious at all. He says they these immigrants that have left their home country are generally pretty fed up with all things Islam and the problems associated with it. He says they are searching for and eager to adopt a new culture and way of life. He says they are very open to new ideas and trying hard to assimilate into the Western ideals.
I've found the same to be true here locally with our Iraq population. Their children try to pass as hispanic because they don't want to be grouped with the terrorists.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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Russia has been exporting their Muslim population to the US. Most of the Turkish people in my area, were born in Russia. They were not allowed to become Russian citizens, even though their parents and in some cases grandparents were born in Russia too.
The couple dozen Muslim Turks I have met, who came from Russia, mostly fit in well. I think if their population stays small, in a generation or two, they won't seem different from any other Americans. They work hard and are not very religious. One of them told me that everyone in the World would move to the US if they could. He told me that if you wanted to work here and get rich, you could. He said that in Russia it was very hard to get permission to work and he could only work certain jobs.
I can not say the same about the Somalis I have met.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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If someone pulled the fangs on ninety rattle snakes and left ten with their fangs in tact, then dumped all 100 in a tub, shook them all up and blindfolded you then told you to use your hands and take five of the snakes out of the tub. WOULD YOU DO IT? I am not comparing Muslims to snakes, I'm only saying you don't know what you are dealing with until you find out one way or the other. According to the exiled Muslim people that have spoken out about the violence condoned in the Quran under penalty of death for heresy, have been of the opinion that a good Muslim and a peaceful Muslim are mutually exclusive. Have we forgotten already the MUSLIM teenage girl that was SHOT IN THE FACE BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING TO SCHOOL?
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Re: Good Bye England!
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Russia has 20% muslim population or more...no way 6%.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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Pew had it at over 12% in 2011. Wiki is not always correct and the Russian State may not give correct info.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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2015.
When Moscow's Muslims gathered at the city's main mosque Wednesday to mark Eid el-Fitr, the end of the holy month of Ramadan, tens of thousands of worshippers were forced to take their prayer mats into the street. Lines of police officers stood amid the worshippers, who also had to pass through a security check before they could pray.
As a symbol it is a powerful illustration of two things: firstly, the growing strength of Moscow's Muslim community; but secondly, the official insecurity and to some extent, hostility toward it.
Islam has always been the second biggest religion in Russia, but it had never been as visible in Moscow as it is now. Moscow has the largest Muslim population in Europe, with estimates suggesting that between 1.5 and 2 million of the Russian capital's population are of the faith. Despite this, Moscow has only six Mosques, hence the necessity for worshippers to congregate in the street.
Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin, a frequent critic of Muslim immigrants, said in the past that the "excessive" number of Muslim newcomers to Moscow was "harmful" and that no new building permits for mosques would be granted.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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Russia has 20% muslim population or more...no way 6%. Way. 6% is a lot. If you have a population of 110 million, that’s 6.6 million rug pilots.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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The " peaceful " Muslims lay low and blend in until " called upon " when the shtf.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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If Russia was 20% diaper head, there’d have been a civil war by now. You heard of Chechnya?
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Re: Good Bye England!
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I need to get out more? Huh?
I have heard of Chechnya. That’s my point exactly. A Muslim enclave in Russia. Barely a million people there and they went for it. They got squashed like bugs. Imagine 20 times that amount. Not only would they try, they’d likely do ok. One in five people in Russia being Muslim just isn’t the case.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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I could meet ya in the middle between 6 and 20.....13.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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Ok funny guy . Whatever happens, I just hope to God we don’t end up like Europe. If we do, I really hope enough Americans have the stones to actually fight it. I wish that would happen now with the Somalians in MN. They need gone.
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Re: Good Bye England!
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Ok funny guy . Whatever happens, I just hope to God we don’t end up like Europe. If we do, I really hope enough Americans have the stones to actually fight it. I wish that would happen now with the Somalians in MN. They need gone. I was not joking...maybe 20 is high, I will give you that one. But I think 6 is low. Americans have been being programed to no fight.....for a while now. Obama even castrated the military. Islam is a tide and they say worldwide domination thru numbers by 2070. Americans look at things in a time frame of minutes for gratification but the islamists look at in in a timeframe of generations.
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