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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tjm] #6203934
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Originally Posted By: tjm
Amendments can be revoked, and some day soon there will be a movement to revoke the 2nd.


A movement to repeal 2A has already begun. At this moment it is in it's infancy, only a handful of far left politicians and other extreme liberals calling for it. But it exists.

We should never forget that, during the last election cycle, all three democratic presidential candidates ran on anti-gun platforms. They tried to out anti-gun each other and proudly proclaimed their animosity towards the NRA.

I think one of the main reasons more politicians, especially republicans, don't go that route is because they know gun owners are a significant voting block and they understand that the NRA can and does influence elections. There are many, many cases of politicians losing their jobs because of some anti-gun legislation they sponsored or supported.

And that is one very important reason every gun owner should support the NRA.


Eh...wot?

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203954
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That is right. This is a good time to find out were our representatives stand on the issue. If they are for repealing it then vote them out.


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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203955
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Voting someone "out" could result in voting "in" someone worse.

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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203960
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The next couple Supreme Court Justices nominated are going to have a HUGE impact on how the 2nd amendment is interpreted. How long will Ginsberg hold on?


"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns
Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203965
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Since there seems to be 5 or 6 people here that believe individuals should have the same weapons as military and law enforcement, what is the current position of the NRA concerning repealing the NFA of 1934 and all successive federal gun control acts? I know, I know, the nra supported and in some instances helped to write some of the Acts when they were drafted; what is the current stance?

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: goldy] #6203972
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Originally Posted By: goldy
The next couple Supreme Court Justices nominated are going to have a HUGE impact on how the 2nd amendment is interpreted. How long will Ginsberg hold on?



This could be impacted 'hugely' by the 2018 mid-terms. If the Senate changes hands, all bets are off.


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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203975
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Alot of law enforcement and game wardens are awarded thier service weapons when they retire.I think it's awsome for thier many years of service they get a firearm instead of a watch lol! Some people think that shouldn't be allowed?

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203976
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I mean arent they "individuals" again after they retire?

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203997
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The next two elections are going to be critical. Vote out anybody who has voiced support for gun control measures. Also, let them know why they are being voted out. Mid-term elections are only six months away.

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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: Arkansas87] #6204039
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Originally Posted By: Arkansas87
Alot of law enforcement and game wardens are awarded thier service weapons when they retire.I think it's awsome for thier many years of service they get a firearm instead of a watch lol! Some people think that shouldn't be allowed?
Are these 'service weapons' of a kind that other citizens can not buy? Full auto or something of that nature?

I can certainly see objections to this policy from a fiscal view, a waste of money maybe, because a new weapon would have to be purchased for the replacement officer.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: FlyinFinn] #6204040
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Since there seems to be 5 or 6 people here that believe individuals should have the same weapons as military and law enforcement, what is the current position of the NRA concerning repealing the NFA of 1934 and all successive federal gun control acts? I know, I know, the nra supported and in some instances helped to write some of the Acts when they were drafted; what is the current stance?
They were pretty quick to say bump stocks should be banned, weren't they?

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6204048
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Cal me a pessimist, but the " burning of books" has already started. All be it in a digital way. Youtube, Facebook etc. erasing gun context, or more precise gun context of things that point towards the 2A. Its still just fine to show videos of ISIS beheading and executing folks in barbaric ways. But ya can't show a video that has a " high capacity " magazine in it. I you can't win an argument with reason. Quieten the opposition. Sound familiar to anyone??
This whole thing smells of a bad history deal to me.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: FlyinFinn] #6204073
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[quote=FlyinFinn Time to slam them back shut and put the monster back in its cage. That will only happen if we stop compromising and go on a political offensive. Of the MILLIONS or BILLIONS of dollars spent by NRA and Republicans we have yet to do that in any large degree. [/quote]

I agree. The NRA is starting to do it with there dvd’s and spokeswoman Dana Loesch. Everytome time there is a bad guy shooting especially the mass shootings, gun supporters have to go on the defensive. Every time a gun advocate gets interviewed, bring up the fact that many anti-gun politicians and big time media sorts live in gated communities and are surrounded by armed body guards armed with high magazine capacity. Will they give up their safe places and armed protection? Drill it into the public’s head. Tucker Carlson on Fox News does it all the time.When Joe Biden said if a person heard a prowler outside of his/her home, get a double barrel shotgun, go out on the patio and blow off two shots in the air. Although some people said it was a stupid idea I never heard one person give the reasons why it was stupid. In fact, the liberal media praised him for the idea. First of all, besides being illegal in many places, he suggested to leave the safety of your own home in which you will know better than any prowler and completely exposing yourself outside. Second, you are now out of ammunition in your firearm. Biden said the prowler will run away when you shoot. How does he know? The person may just fire back and now you have an unloaded firearm standing out in the open. Why didn’t anybody challenge him face to face about his remark? Or how about the idiot (either a state politician or college professor, can’t remember which) from Colorado telling women you don’ t need a firearm to protect yourself from a rapist. Just urinate on him when he starts to rape you? Just make the rapist more mad so he will smash your head in. Or carry a whistle to scare the rapist away or run into a safe place (as if they are located everywhere a women walks or runs).

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tjm] #6204076
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Originally Posted By: tjm
Garryowen, Democrats and Republicans drink at the same trough and both have little use for Personal Liberty.


Funny you should mention that, my state is the reddest of the red states.

I can drive 2 miles down the road and buy fresh raw milk from a local dairy farm. The dairy farmer is free to sell it to me.

But if he puts up a sign in his yard, "Fresh raw milk for sale" the state will break it off in his butt.

It's supposedly a public health regulation. But I can still buy the milk... The farmer just can't tell me that it's for sale.

Gosh, I wonder who benefits from keeping customers ignorant that they have choices on who they purchase from?

Mike


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Scuba, I call you an optimist, but at least you are paying attention and possess logic.

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Mike, its not funny to me.

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That is an example of crony capitalism by creameries and milk bottling companies.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: white17] #6204115
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Originally Posted By: white17
Originally Posted By: goldy
The next couple Supreme Court Justices nominated are going to have a HUGE impact on how the 2nd amendment is interpreted. How long will Ginsberg hold on?



This could be impacted 'hugely' by the 2018 mid-terms. If the Senate changes hands, all bets are off.


This x100!!!!

All trhis talk and i'm for this and this means that is only talk in the end. We have to get out this fall and vote Republicans in so if Trump appoints another supreme court justice, he/she will be confirmed.

Voting otherwise is wishful thinking and peeing up wind.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6204198
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Now is the time to abandon the half steppers en mass and vote for liberty.

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Let's see what this Constitution is about.

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