Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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06/25/18 10:23 PM
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Trump is getting the blame for abhorrent conditions, separation of children from their families, detention centers, etc. This was put in place by President Clinton in 1997 call the Flores Consent Decree that separated kids from parents who entered US illegally. Bush and Obama both upheld the law and maintained detention centers and separated children from their illegal parents. But, they never were chastised by the main stream media or either political party for it.
Trump gets the blame for upholding the law same as the last 3 presidents did. Only what they did was looked at differently. Not true. The current crises of family separation was caused by the Trump administration's decision to prosecute all adults caught illegally entering the country. Prior presidents deported families they caught, but Trump is prosecuting the adults for being here illegally. Prior presidents didn't prosecute except for other crimes, but settled for deporting them directly. They are entitled to jury trials if prosecuted, each one of them. If deportation proceedings are used, they are only entitled to an administrative hearing. Trying them means we will support them in prison, under conditions that may be better than they had at home, for the length of their sentence. Most likely they will be given suspended sentences and ordered deported. Trump has taken a step that Obama and predecessors did not take. It's untrue, fake news, to say he's doing the same thing they did. Jim
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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Thank God Trump is doing things differently than bo did....bo's legacy is the first black president. That's it.
Other than being 1/2 black he was/did nothing worth noting other than bad. There is plenty of bad....nothing good.
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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How do they verify they are returning the children to their actual parents? Who cares Just ship them all back and let them decide who belongs to whom
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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James I suggest you listen to a few interviews with obumers DHS secretary Jeh Johnson. Come on your a lawyer you should know this flora ruling And obumer changed it through exec order in 2014 Come on man get your case straight And I'm just a Nazi who likes to read A lot. I rest my case Not much of a case. You didn't provide any links, nor anything but vague references. Jim
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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How do they verify they are returning the children to their actual parents? Who cares Just ship them all back and let them decide who belongs to whom We ripped the families apart, so we have the moral obligation to put them back together. Do you understand? Jim
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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If Obama was doing the same thing, shame on him. I didn't know about it, or I would have objected then.
Regardless who was in charge of this heartless program, all I'm saying now is that we have a moral, if not legal, obligation to try to reunite these families.
Jim
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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If Obama was doing the same thing, shame on him. I didn't know about it, or I would have objected then.
Regardless who was in charge of this heartless program, all I'm saying now is that we have a moral, if not legal, obligation to try to reunite these families.
Jim Legal obligation James?
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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It shouldn't be catch-and-release, like prior presidents did it. We should detain these families together until they can be deported or their claims for asylum heard.
Jim
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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06/26/18 08:35 PM
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If Obama was doing the same thing, shame on him. I didn't know about it, or I would have objected then.
Regardless who was in charge of this heartless program, all I'm saying now is that we have a moral, if not legal, obligation to try to reunite these families.
Jim Legal obligation James? I said "if not" a legal obligation. That means I don't know, but regardless, we have a moral obligation. Jim
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday
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If Obama was doing the same thing, shame on him. I didn't know about it, or I would have objected then.
Regardless who was in charge of this heartless program, all I'm saying now is that we have a moral, if not legal, obligation to try to reunite these families.
Jim I remember you saying those exact same words awhile back..."if Obama was doing the same thing". I'll tell ya the same now.....He did. (last time i believe it was about the travel ban)
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