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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267078
06/25/18 09:39 PM
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You can't go around giving facts and truth like that Trapper7! That DOES NOT fit the narrative!

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: Trapper7] #6267113
06/25/18 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Trapper7
Trump is getting the blame for abhorrent conditions, separation of children from their families, detention centers, etc. This was put in place by President Clinton in 1997 call the Flores Consent Decree that separated kids from parents who entered US illegally. Bush and Obama both upheld the law and maintained detention centers and separated children from their illegal parents. But, they never were chastised by the main stream media or either political party for it.

Trump gets the blame for upholding the law same as the last 3 presidents did. Only what they did was looked at differently.


Not true. The current crises of family separation was caused by the Trump administration's decision to prosecute all adults caught illegally entering the country. Prior presidents deported families they caught, but Trump is prosecuting the adults for being here illegally. Prior presidents didn't prosecute except for other crimes, but settled for deporting them directly.

They are entitled to jury trials if prosecuted, each one of them. If deportation proceedings are used, they are only entitled to an administrative hearing. Trying them means we will support them in prison, under conditions that may be better than they had at home, for the length of their sentence. Most likely they will be given suspended sentences and ordered deported.

Trump has taken a step that Obama and predecessors did not take. It's untrue, fake news, to say he's doing the same thing they did.

Jim


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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267129
06/25/18 11:07 PM
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James I suggest you listen to a few interviews with obumers DHS secretary Jeh Johnson.
Come on your a lawyer you should know this flora ruling
And obumer changed it through exec order in 2014
Come on man get your case straight
And I'm just a Nazi who likes to read
A lot.
I rest my case

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267144
06/25/18 11:27 PM
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Thank God Trump is doing things differently than bo did....bo's legacy is the first black president. That's it.

Other than being 1/2 black he was/did nothing worth noting other than bad. There is plenty of bad....nothing good.


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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267197
06/26/18 01:07 AM
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"crying babies, separation of families, horrible. I had nothing to do with that."
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267251
06/26/18 06:52 AM
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There's a reason that Obama had the reputation as "Deporter in Cheif"

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: Tweed] #6267747
06/26/18 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
How do they verify they are returning the children to their actual parents?


Who cares

Just ship them all back and let them decide who belongs to whom


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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: wetdog] #6267768
06/26/18 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: wetdog
James I suggest you listen to a few interviews with obumers DHS secretary Jeh Johnson.
Come on your a lawyer you should know this flora ruling
And obumer changed it through exec order in 2014
Come on man get your case straight
And I'm just a Nazi who likes to read
A lot.
I rest my case


Not much of a case. You didn't provide any links, nor anything but vague references.

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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: AntiGov] #6267770
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Originally Posted By: AntiGov
Originally Posted By: Tweed
How do they verify they are returning the children to their actual parents?


Who cares

Just ship them all back and let them decide who belongs to whom


We ripped the families apart, so we have the moral obligation to put them back together. Do you understand?

Jim


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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267772
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267776
06/26/18 08:31 PM
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If Obama was doing the same thing, shame on him. I didn't know about it, or I would have objected then.

Regardless who was in charge of this heartless program, all I'm saying now is that we have a moral, if not legal, obligation to try to reunite these families.

Jim


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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267778
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James I agree we take families apart,we have the obligation to reunite those families.
As far as putting up links lol I just learned how to do a quote on here.
I do all this on my phone.

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: James] #6267780
06/26/18 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: James
If Obama was doing the same thing, shame on him. I didn't know about it, or I would have objected then.

Regardless who was in charge of this heartless program, all I'm saying now is that we have a moral, if not legal, obligation to try to reunite these families.

Jim

Legal obligation James?


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267781
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It shouldn't be catch-and-release, like prior presidents did it. We should detain these families together until they can be deported or their claims for asylum heard.

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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267782
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James change your news feed to CBN
Christian Broadcasting Network
One of the best out there

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: Catch22] #6267784
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Originally Posted By: Catch22
Originally Posted By: James
If Obama was doing the same thing, shame on him. I didn't know about it, or I would have objected then.

Regardless who was in charge of this heartless program, all I'm saying now is that we have a moral, if not legal, obligation to try to reunite these families.

Jim

Legal obligation James?


I said "if not" a legal obligation. That means I don't know, but regardless, we have a moral obligation.

Jim


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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267787
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Again James the 97 florz act does not allow families detained together
POTUS exec order is only a temp fix
19 days left

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267788
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We should unite the families of illegal aliens, that we separated, when they chose to illegally invade our country, but it should be somewhere else then here. We are wasting to much money, time and resources on these criminals. We need a wall.

Keith

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6267791
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Dam James I just one of the deplorable Nazi you here about on the news
Can't fix stupid

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: James] #6267792
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Originally Posted By: James
If Obama was doing the same thing, shame on him. I didn't know about it, or I would have objected then.

Regardless who was in charge of this heartless program, all I'm saying now is that we have a moral, if not legal, obligation to try to reunite these families.

Jim


I remember you saying those exact same words awhile back..."if Obama was doing the same thing".

I'll tell ya the same now.....He did.

(last time i believe it was about the travel ban)

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