Its good to know that you are opposed to improvement of methods and tools in the industry Dirt.

Not sure what you rub on yer hides before you send them Riverotter, but you've had the best averages of any that i saw all year. (rats, fox and now coon)

I WANT SOME OF WHATEVER YOUR USING!

These improvements are they working? Just wondering.

Kind of like the old ones they were using back in the 70's and early 80's myself. Getting a three dollar avg. on coons and 35 on otters I don't think I like these new improvement their coming up with.

hippie we ran almost 4000 southern hides through the last two sales if I can try and make light of a bad thing gone worse I believe most other trappers can to. lol. It is what it is and ain't a darn thing we can do about it but ride it out again. It will pass one day.

I hea ya,

My butt is getting sore riding this one already. lol

......you believe everything NAFA puts in the newsletters?..wow! lol

The info has been disseminated widely by wfsc reps also,as well as other officials in the company.It is common knowledge within the fur industry.

..........lol

they cant even grade fur! isn't that why CG is starting to buy at the lower 48 fur sales?

Nafa intersorts fur.I don't see what grading/sorting fur has to do with thier C+T rollout in 2020?

....CG does there leaving lol

what are your options for marketing fur in your area other then NAFA?

I sell raw fur to both auctions FHA and NAFA,as well as manufacture and sell fur articles to outlets or private customers.
I have sold to local buyers in the past but they couldn't compete with the auctions and a lot went out of business.I sold fur to the North West Company off and on,they became basically an agent for NAFA later.
There are still some local buyers up the coast,but they are basically middlemen.

Don't care is not opposed. Do you think I should show all the other fishing guides on the river how to catch fish?

We can both agree that fur prices at the moment (especially beaver prices) are in the toilet. And the very few good ones that are produced should be worth more $$. As far as your reference to a (fur) business model of expecting the first guy in line to always lose money, you must have been hitting the beaver to hard when your Alaskan marten were bringing $200+ averages, and Alaskan otter were averaging close to that. The retail/wholesale sale of sheared beaver items in North America could withstand a $70-80 blanket basis cost for heavy, northern, clear leather beaver pelts even at this time ( in my opinion). They can't offer enough of this quality at the auctions to interest the manufacturing on a larger scale than currently exists, that coupled with the dressing issue, cost, and time to get it back. No good business people like, expect, or wish to see anybody in the pipeline lose money. It's all about demand. Meanwhile I've had my say, let's ALL play better together, I think we're close to being on the same side.

Boco, who will be the governing body of authority over this certification ?? What will happen to trappers that are found not in compliance with certification standards, but yet certified ?? Will the governing body over certification move at any point to regulate shipper beyond already established regulations within their respect states, or provinces ?? Will the governing body over certification move at any point to limit numbers of shippers, or those shippers production numbers ??


just a few questions.


RTT

Governing body?
As far as I know it is not mandatory.Ask your NAFA/WFSC director how Nafa is going to implement it.I imagine NAFA will take non certified non traceable fur to sell to companys/buyers that think they can sell it.It wont be intersorted with traceable certified fur,thats for sure.

Ok, so from what you have said would it be fair to assume that NAFA/WFSC would be the governing body. I say that because any documents that NAFA/WFSC had signed by trappers would originate from them, so would that be a safe assumption ??



RTT

They haven't said how they are going to do it as far as I know it is in the works right now.You can probably look at the CG initiative as a pilot project for fur sourced in the USA.Some will choose to sign the declaration in order to market fur to companys that want certified fur,and obviously some wont.No big deal.

So at this point these are basically individual contracts between trappers, and certain companies at this time, is that the case ??


Is there a goal to consolidate manufactures, retailers, and suppliers under one uniformed agreement that trappers would have to compile with if signed ??