Re: trap shy racoons
[Re: Ole]
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10/06/18 12:28 AM
10/06/18 12:28 AM
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AJE
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Put some molassis and sardines in the cage. I'd be shocked if they resist. It doesn't take much molassis. In another trap, put grape jelly and a tiny bit of annis oil, perhaps with a little bit of corn and sunflower seeds.
Last edited by AJE; 10/06/18 12:29 AM.
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Re: trap shy racoons
[Re: Ole]
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10/12/18 08:50 AM
10/12/18 08:50 AM
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Monroeville NJ
Jonesie
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Not your bait most likely. You need to present the trap to them in the right location the right way. I had a coon walking right past my trap 5 feet away last week. for a few nights I moved the trap 5 feet placed the opening towards the direction the coon was coming and it went right in using the same bait and lure. I have been giving cage trap training for 20 years and this one fact is true put the trap right on the coon make it easy to go in the trap and snack or trail the coon into the trap. Good baits and lures are a must for coon BUT it is 90% trapper knowing what to do and 10% baits and lures that get it done. To find out if the coon are trap shy or trap smart, place a marshmallow out front of the trap about a foot and one right on the lip, another one right in front of the pan. if only the one out front is moved or gone then you may have a shy coon if they are gone up to the pan and the ones behind are Left then smart, if nothing is moved or touched your location is off.
Last edited by Jonesie; 10/12/18 10:44 PM.
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Re: trap shy racoons
[Re: Ole]
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10/13/18 02:39 PM
10/13/18 02:39 PM
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IMHO Jonesie and TDHP have it nailed.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
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Re: trap shy racoons
[Re: Ole]
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10/22/18 08:50 PM
10/22/18 08:50 PM
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Mass
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I did sardines, marshmallows, molasses, Coon Kandy, peaches, pears, Trix, plums. Bait was in, just in and outside the cages. I'm not a fan of just any bait being placed outside of the cage. Bait can get their interest but that doesn't mean they will eat it. But if you can get them interested to the point where they enter the cage, at that point it doesn't matter if they eat it or not. Raccoons don't pass up much. You need trail cams so you can see what they are doing when they go by the traps or even if they are traveling in that area. As far as washing the traps, any time you"handle an animal in a cage" that's code... after the fact the cage should be at a minimum rinsed. I don't think that is your problem though. I think you should invest in trail cams and use them to your advantage.That is a valuable tool in this field, it will save you time and money. The buffet you are offering to these critters isn't necessary.
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Re: trap shy racoons
[Re: Jonesie]
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10/22/18 09:51 PM
10/22/18 09:51 PM
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Central Ohio
LT GREY
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I use 2 to 3 baits per cage and 3 lures. I don't know what that coon wants so I give them a choice. but just small lima bean portions. I think the first hour the coon may be hungry the rest of the night they are just being coon. entice them like a fat man in a buffet LOL I wish I was the one selling you bait then !
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Re: trap shy racoons
[Re: Ole]
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10/23/18 10:59 AM
10/23/18 10:59 AM
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Port Republic South Jersey
Newt
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Listen to what Jonesie says. That is IF you realy want to catch those coon. What is the % of the bait and lure to the cost of the job? How many times do you want to come back to that job site? Or maybe your making your money on Milage. Jonesie tought me to set for the 20%.We know the 80% come easy.
At our first school (SOUTH JERSEY TRAPPING and SNARING SCHOOL) Morgan and I were along with our students watching Joneies cage trap class. After the first 15 minites into the 2 hour class. We looked at each other with a dumb look.That said it all. After 30-40 years setting cage traps. WE HAD NO CLUE HOW TO DO IT RIGHT.
I'll never be too old to learn.
South Jersey Trapping and Snaring School January 17-18-19 2025 NEWT -----------------OVER---------------- www.snareone.com
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Re: trap shy racoons
[Re: Newt]
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10/23/18 04:18 PM
10/23/18 04:18 PM
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After 30-40 years setting cage traps. WE HAD NO CLUE HOW TO DO IT RIGHT.
I'll never be too old to learn.
Sir with great and up most respect to all your years of experience, are you saying there is only one way to set a cage trap? Could you elaborate for me, this is interesting. How so? Like cage facing north when it should be facing south or prevailing wind? Bait hung on the left on the 4th row of wire instead of the right? Only using commercial bait and lure by a certain maker? Paying $1500 + to be put up in a ranch and be taught how to carry a cage into an area and set it up? You never stop learning, but you don't need to go to school to trap raccoons. For a few dollars and investing in trail cams and some of your time, you can become very effective in trapping critters. What happens when the foundation you are taught, because that's all that instruction is, fails and you need to adapt on your own? High probability that you will have to invest in cams and figure it out on your own right? That is if you want to become efficient and not have your hand held through every job you get right? SIr I totally get it them 4000 coon a year guys are great they are the best! The folks who take your money aren't going to be there when the animal doesn't do what they taught you how to set up for. I've seen some of the best trappers come up empty on jobs who thought they had it in the bag, animals are unpredictable, I'm not buying only one way. If you would be so kind in giving an example on this topic that would be great because this is "FASCINATING"! I'm filing paperwork so I have time:)
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Re: trap shy racoons
[Re: TDHP]
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10/23/18 05:07 PM
10/23/18 05:07 PM
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Port Republic South Jersey
Newt
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After 30-40 years setting cage traps. WE HAD NO CLUE HOW TO DO IT RIGHT.
I'll never be too old to learn.
Sir with great and up most respect to all your years of experience, are you saying there is only one way to set a cage trap? Could you elaborate for me, this is interesting. How so? Like cage facing north when it should be facing south or prevailing wind? Bait hung on the left on the 4th row of wire instead of the right? Only using commercial bait and lure by a certain maker? Paying $1500 + to be put up in a ranch and be taught how to carry a cage into an area and set it up? You never stop learning, but you don't need to go to school to trap raccoons. For a few dollars and investing in trail cams and some of your time, you can become very effective in trapping critters. What happens when the foundation you are taught, because that's all that instruction is, fails and you need to adapt on your own? High probability that you will have to invest in cams and figure it out on your own right? That is if you want to become efficient and not have your hand held through every job you get right? SIr I totally get it them 4000 coon a year guys are great they are the best! The folks who take your money aren't going to be there when the animal doesn't do what they taught you how to set up for. I've seen some of the best trappers come up empty on jobs who thought they had it in the bag, animals are unpredictable, I'm not buying only one way. If you would be so kind in giving an example on this topic that would be great because this is "FASCINATING"! I'm filing paperwork so I have time:) 1- SOUTH JERSEY SNARING and TRAPPING SCHOOL is only $400 for 2 1/2 days noon friday 7:00 AM till 9-10:00 PM Saterday and Sunday. 2- I did'nt say my way was the only way to set a cage. I said Listen to what Jonesis is try to tell you. IT might help. 3- No lure maker was ever given a plug. 4- I also said I'll never be too old to learn. 5- Jonesie is the cage trap man. I never said I have all the answers.
South Jersey Trapping and Snaring School January 17-18-19 2025 NEWT -----------------OVER---------------- www.snareone.com
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