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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/09/18 09:58 AM
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Did the coyote chew out or did the BAD fail? The only problem with the shock spring Is you are defeating the purpose of the BAD. So when you catch a deer It still may be In your CR. And for sure you don't want to be placing a shock spring In your cable set up. Maybe right at the staking system but not In line.
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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/09/18 11:07 AM
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So your BAD was a J hook or S hook type. I never liked those I would rather use a crush on BAD. But I've had those fail at times to. There was a dealer In the past that changed out his cable. It was maybe a red one thinner then the cable he was using. And His crimping tool wasn't set up for the other cable. Needles to say there were a lots of unhappy CR users.
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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/09/18 12:05 PM
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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/09/18 01:48 PM
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You can't make a 4' CR work. It takes about 40 " to make a 12" loop then we can hang them 12" off the ground. That doesn't leave you enough cable to get to the ground to stake It down. Then If you add a 4' extension your right back to a 7' CR.
But I understand the running start.
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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/09/18 04:28 PM
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Upgrade to the #350 break aways. They are legal here in Wi.
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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/09/18 05:34 PM
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How long were the original CRs? You'll defeat the pourpose of any BAD with a shock spring. All my Crs are 40 inches of 1x19 5/64th or 1/16th for the loop then a barrel inline swivel then extended to 6-8 feet of 3/32nd 7x7. All with BADs . With a longer snare leg caught deer brake out (the intended purpose of the BAD) 100 percent of the time. Iv'e had one BAD fail with coyotes in the last 5 years. Longer is better, yotes run around in circles and deer get out.
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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/09/18 06:01 PM
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I believe 7' is max length for our CRs.
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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/10/18 03:38 PM
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For a BAD to have a chance to work you must have a Solid anchor point. The reason the law requires a bad is so in the event a deer or other large game gets caught the BAD straightens and releases the deer Etc. Even with a 7 foot CR a shock spring will negate the BAD from its intent. There a ways to get the coyote away from the location, or just move up or down the trail. I love big circles, so do coyotes. It makes the rest mill around and get nailed.. Before you add shocks I would ask the DNR if it's even legal. I would wager that it isn't. please keep us posted.
Talk to Newt about this, I'm sure he will agree. It's not his fault the BAD failed, he needs to now so he can check his supplier.
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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/10/18 11:42 PM
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Neck CR's in Wi can't be spring activated. I don't know for sure what that means, but maybe WDNR is referring to shock springs.
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Re: WI Cable Restraint with shock spring
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10/10/18 11:54 PM
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No It's referring to the Collorem (SP) It's a spring activated neck snare.
Last edited by The Beav; 10/10/18 11:55 PM.
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