Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: salemtrapper]
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10/17/18 10:01 PM
10/17/18 10:01 PM
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100 Mile House, BC Can
bctomcat
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When you get your line, is it issued to just you, or are you allowed to have others trap on your line. trapping buddy, family, lease it out?? You can allow anyone to trap or lease it as long as they have a licence and your written permission.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: bctomcat]
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10/17/18 10:22 PM
10/17/18 10:22 PM
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On Georgian Bay, Ontario Canad...
Hutchy
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I understand that you may have an open quota on lets say fox, however does your government give you and idea of what to take to maintain a healthy population per acre like it does with the animals with the quotas?
When you guys get a trapline is it government regulated or is it yours to do as you wish like build new cabins, cut paths out of timber things like that. In BC management of your harvest is up to the trapper. The education course provides you with basic guidelines to accomplish this. The government has the option to establish a quota or close the season on you. You must get approval for your cabins in BC and trail cutting requires approval if it involves the cutting of commercial timber. Pretty similar here.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/17/18 10:23 PM
10/17/18 10:23 PM
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Northern MN
Osky
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Are there limits on the amount and type of trails you create, and do you have the right to restrict others from using your trails?
Osky
www.SureDockusa.com“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/17/18 10:41 PM
10/17/18 10:41 PM
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100 Mile House, BC Can
bctomcat
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As far as I know, in BC there are no restrictions on the amount of atv or snowmobile trails you can construct as long as there is little timber cutting involved and they do not involved any identified sensitive or restricted sites. No you have no right to restrict others from the trails you construct. If any extensive timber cutting, merchantable or immature, is involved then a forestry permit would be required.
Last edited by bctomcat; 10/17/18 10:43 PM.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: Hutchy]
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10/17/18 11:53 PM
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Armpit, ak
Dirt
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That's the beauty of management. If you have fewer marten, trap fewer marten. It's nice to know you are the only one trapping so you can manage it properly. What if the harvestable surplus is more than your cap? I decide in season by in season information what the harvestable surplus might be and control my harvest based on timely in season data. The government does not know what is going on. I do.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: Boco]
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10/18/18 12:08 AM
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Beaver quotas can be raised or lowered as required by submitting an aerial beaver survey identifying all the live colonys.
So if you want to raise your beaver quota who pays for the aerial survey? Kinda on the same line as Dirt’s question.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/18/18 12:22 AM
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Northern Michigan
J.Morse
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How do the various Ministries handle trap thievery, or hunter/fishermen toying with your traps/cabins, etc.??? Do they (Wardens?) seem to take it seriously?
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/18/18 12:24 AM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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Our council has a fund from our nuisance beaver program that will cover 75% of the cost for any member wishing to fly. There are a couple trappers in each council that have aircraft and that know how to properly fly an aerial beaver survey for an accurate count. Last year the pilot in our council charged $200 for a line. If you trap beaver in the winter it saves a lot of time and money being able to plan from an aerial survey,instead of looking for live houses from the ground. Most times a trapper knows his ground pretty good if he has been on it for years,and will only do an aerial survey if there is a problem in the district like a freezeout. New trappers taking over a beaver line with a big quota will definitely benefit from an aerial survey. Sometimes the MNR will fly a survey if they think a line is being mismanaged. Too bad google earth is 5-6 years out of date,if it was real time that would be great.Our fur tech has a meeting for trappers during the season for quota adjustments.The only time data would be required for a quota adjustment would be if it was substantial like doubling the marten quota because of a high juvenile ratio in conjunction with a high early harvest level(75% of quota in 3 weeks trapping for example),or a drastic drop in beaver quota from a freezeout.In both these cases many trappers would be on the same page as these fluctuations are widwspread over many traplines when they occur.In the early 90's here we had a large freezeout of beaver.One local trappers aerial survey indicated a drop from over 60 live houses before to just 9 live houses the year after.
Last edited by Boco; 10/18/18 12:41 AM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/18/18 12:30 AM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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We work closely here with the CO's,they take any offenses against trappers very seriously. The only time I ever had a problem was the first year I got a trapline I found a couple big beaver floating in the fall killed with a high power rifle.I reported it to the CO,never heard anything but never had that problem ever again. I have never had anyone tamper with any traps on my remote line,and so far no problems on my line east of town.
Last edited by Boco; 10/18/18 12:31 AM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/18/18 06:46 AM
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Hutchy
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My fur tech has asked me for a map of live houses on a helper line I am on. As for raising quotas mid season, the trend for beaver has been for people to argue their quotas down since beaver aren't worth as much. Around here a trapper asking for a raised quota would be rare and likely granted without question assuming the trapper can back up their claim by counting live houses. As for marten and fisher, just knowing my fur tech, I believe an argument could be made to have it raised based on juvenile to adult female ratios. Doesn't mean he would raise it, but you could make the argument. They tend to be a bit more stingy about marten quota increases here, since our populations are just not what they are up north where there are open quotas. Where the populations have potential to be very high, trappers manage their own quotas, like dirt has said. Down here we don't have a whole lot of marten, so quotas stand. As for fisher, we have a decent population, and have fewer population swings. Fisher populations don't seem to swing as wildly as marten, and the quotas seldom change. In eastern areas of the province with incredible fisher populations, the quotas are open for fisher, and the trapper manages his take. Quotas only generally exist where they need to be in place. Exceptions to every rule, but the system seems to work based on steady harvests year after year.
Last edited by Hutchy; 10/18/18 06:47 AM.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: arrowsmith]
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10/18/18 09:51 AM
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Armpit, ak
Dirt
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Are the fur prices set in Canada? I remember seeing a show where a Trapper had a list of what he was to be paid for each species prior to trapping. Would this be similar to the bounty system we occasionally see in the States? Would this be in addition to the fur value? That is probably the government incentive program in the Northwest territories. They get a guaranteed minimum. The fur is sold at FHA(maybe) If sold for more than the minimum they get Auction value. I'd tell you what I think of it, but it wouldn't be considered civil.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/19/18 01:56 PM
10/19/18 01:56 PM
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Is there still a bounty on Beaver up there?
Been 10-15 years since i've been up hunting, but remember the guy telling me they had a 25 dollar bounty at that time.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
#6351542
10/19/18 02:00 PM
10/19/18 02:00 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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I believe there is a bounty in the western provinces where there are lots of beaver/human conflict in farming areas.
No bounty where I am.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/19/18 02:24 PM
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Thanks.
It was in Manitboa where the trapper told me that.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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