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why is this even a crime?????????????????? #6350304
10/18/18 05:36 AM
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Its time to end political parties
Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350353
10/18/18 07:11 AM
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Wife died two weeks before raid? Sounds like someone who visited wanted some revenge. Maybe he got on the bad side of his inlaws.

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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350367
10/18/18 07:44 AM
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Would it be illegal for me to own a fully automatic rifle with the serial number filed off?




Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350369
10/18/18 07:47 AM
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Being a military veteran, or a war hero even, doesn't put a man above the law. He had a full auto weapon in his possession. It matters not at all that he bought it decades ago, he still had it now and it was not legal.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350371
10/18/18 07:48 AM
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With all do respect, the man should've known better when the serial number was scratched off. GIANT red flag

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350393
10/18/18 08:38 AM
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WHY is it illegal. Whats different about finishing an 80% reciever for a semi ( no serial #) or owning an old military rifle picked up in a war zone?

Why is full auto illegal? Are people with full auto more likely to commit murder? Does the rifle change the way the owners mind works????


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350411
10/18/18 08:56 AM
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well Trump could pardon him say I understand that the gun laws have gotten so ridiculous that a good guy , war veteran though of it as just another rifle , it was purchased pre registration so let him go.

your pardoned thank you for your service.


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350418
10/18/18 09:01 AM
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Two words, Jury Nullification.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350446
10/18/18 09:27 AM
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It should be obvious that there's more to the story than what's in the article. They don't just randomly raid a persons home, and they weren't there looking for one particular unrecorded rifle from 40 years ago.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350452
10/18/18 09:30 AM
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I am thinking there is way more to this story.

Someone tipped off law enforcement for revenge for something.

I understand it's a law but 7 years in prison seems harsh for just possession.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350462
10/18/18 09:39 AM
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"fully automatic"....gets me every time! crazy


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350465
10/18/18 09:42 AM
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Land of the free, home of the brave, right? If your betters tell you that you do not rate to own an automatic rifle because you did not pay a 200 dollar tax you deserve to be put in a cage for seven years.
There will be no movement to repeal the National Firearms Act by the Democrat Lite party or the gun control club called the NRA.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350538
10/18/18 11:19 AM
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Your question "why is this a crime": its a crime because it violates a Federal Law. I find it difficult to believe that any one gun owner/collector does not know this law. Now if this man passed away and the weapon found its way to an uneducated radical, we now have an automatic weapon on the street in the hands of a nut job. Cause and effect. Its called consequence thinking. We have Federal Laws for a reason, you have the right to vote and try to have the NRA over turn this law. There are exceptions and many collectors have auto weapons, they follow the law.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350542
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So your saying its a crime to steal because thats the law? No reasoning behind it. Its just the law? As to the NRA Id rather support nancy pelosi. She is honest about supporting gun control


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350582
10/18/18 12:20 PM
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Blame Al Capone and the likes for why it's now illegal. Or, keep whining about something you and i had no control over.

Vote enough pro-gunners in and we might get somewhere, but with the 50-50 splits we've been having, nothing is gonna change.

Finn..........
The democrat lite paerty has done more than your group will ever do to help us. Get one elected would be a good first step. Easy to say what they "might" do when they can't even get elected to dog-catcher.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350595
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We have a libertarian state senator here in Nebraska, laura ebke. From what I understand, shes the highest elected libertarian in America. As far as automatic weapons, a gun is just a piece of metal, government has no more business regulating that piece of metal than any other piece of metal I own.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350627
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It's also illegal for Al Sharpton to not pay income taxes. But....


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350638
10/18/18 01:50 PM
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if he bought it legally back then should be ok now. seven years lock up dosnt figure.


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: loosegoose] #6350675
10/18/18 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: loosegoose
We have a libertarian state senator here in Nebraska, laura ebke. From what I understand, shes the highest elected libertarian in America. As far as automatic weapons, a gun is just a piece of metal, government has no more business regulating that piece of metal than any other piece of metal I own.


Elected as a Republican and then changed parties, Same as Gary Johnson.

But that's ok with me. How many gun laws has she eliminated since she's been in?

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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6350687
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“Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents looking for the rifle raided Pick’s Plano, Texas, home two weeks after his wife died of cancer and found the weapon.“

So, who knew about the gun and had a grudge against the old man? His in-laws maybe? I think the informant should be tracked down.

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