This isn't something that hunters and trappers "started to do". Crossing these tracks to access public lands and waters have been going on for many, many years. We have a governor that could have fixed this with one stroke of the pen. That ain't going to happen as long as the Koch brothers have an interest in him.

You, on the other hand, might as well join the antis. You and Dirty D can form a club . . . trappers against trappers who have lost access to public lands and waters because the railroad said so. Then you can feel as smug as you'd like knowing you're taking the high and mighty legal road while those of us who had this access to these now forbidden public lands and waters now must become criminals to continue doing so. You and your ilk are about as useful as teats on a boar to the trapping community here that had access to these public lands and waters.

You want an interesting train of thought? Let's take a look at your trapping regulations:

Lawful Trap types

Only cage or box type traps may be used for the taking of fur-bearing mammals. Common rat traps may only be used for the taking of weasels. Bailey and Hancock traps may only be used for the taking of beaver and only by trappers who have been issued the Bailey-Hancock certificate of completion. The Bailey-Hancock certificate must be in possession when using such traps. There is a detailed procedure for obtaining a special permit to use bodygrip traps (e.g., Conibear™ traps) to address certain types of wildlife damage. Contact your local MassWildlife District office for details.

PROHIBITED TRAPS: Steel-jaw foothold traps, padded jaw traps, body-gripping (Conibear) traps (see below), snares, deadfalls, and any traps other than those specified are prohibited. Such traps may not be set, tended, used, or possessed in the field.


No wonder you feel like laying down and accepting what's been handed to you. Only cage or box traps?

When was the last time you and your buddies went to the state capitol and attempted to change that situation? When was the last time you contacted your state legislator and bent his/her ear to see if you could get the ball rolling on legalizing foothold traps?

Your sanctimonious attitude is pathetic. Cage and box traps. No wonder "wha wha" is part of your vocabulary.

And you find glee in this? The antis must love you.

yes , they must

Well said!!

lol big bad cyber bully gone beat meh down philosophically, my cyber feelings are hurt now. Sir I could care less about all that up der^ doesn't bother me at all "bro". But go ahead and continue to do as you wish.

Well Sir continue to make your trips to the meetings, hope it all works out for ya.

i own almost 2 miles of railroad grade and a trolley grade from the early 1900's that i'll let you guys come out and drive back and forth on if it'll make ya's feel better.

Sir, maybe so BUT just curious... which trappers are you referring to? The trappers who complain about other trappers trespassing on their private property, or the ones who seek out permissions to trap on private property and are the first ones to convince the property owner to call the "law" or call themselves when people do their own thing on the property they have gotten permission to use? Guess the law is OK when it benefits you aye?

The trappers I'm referring to are those who have no stake in this issue, but condemn those of us who have been ousted out of these public lands and waters by a stroke of the pen. You are included in this group.

To give you a chance to celebrate and "call out the paddy wagons", here's where I'll be crossing the railroad tracks tomorrow sometime between noon and 2:00. There is a stretch of public marsh just downstream of Wauzeka off Highway 60 that has tracks that parallel the highway and are between the marsh and the highway. I'll be parking off the highway and walking directly across these tracks to access public lands and waters.

Please call the railroad authorities and have me arrested.

The trappers I'm referring to are those who have no stake in this issue, but condemn those of us who have been ousted out of these public lands and waters by a stroke of the pen. You are included in this group.

To give you a chance to celebrate and "call out the paddy wagons", here's where I'll be crossing the railroad tracks tomorrow sometime between noon and 2:00. There is a stretch of public marsh just downstream of Wauzeka off Highway 60 that has tracks that parallel the highway and are between the marsh and the highway. I'll be parking off the highway and walking directly across these tracks to access public lands and waters. Please call the railroad authorities and have me arrested. [/quote]


Sir I don't care that you enjoy breaking the law to get what you want, don't care at all. I have to tell ya though, you're setting a great example for the youth outdoors men and women out there, or just in general. SO I guess it's ok to trespass if you feel a certain way on an issue? Here I am thinking the trappers were above the rest from reading all the BS on these forums about how "honesty and integrity" is best set the example, do the right thing... be legal yada yada. Guess it really depends on which way the wind is blowing on that day. Regardless of what you think is right or wrong, just remember you're still trespassing to trap. I guess all the cage trap states how many few there are should disregard and go back to steel traps, because hey lets face it it's a "dumb" ban and people could lift that ban with the swipe of a pen. Sir you have a great day and good luck on your harvest that will be taken by you trespassing. I wish you a great season.

Nowhere did I insinuate that I enjoy breaking the law. You, on the other hand, have expressed quite a bit of joy at the thought of me getting arrested for accessing public lands and waters by crossing the railroad tracks.









There may come a time in your life when you'll have to stand up on your two hind legs and take a stand for what you believe in. I've done that many times through legal channels via the Wisconsin Conservation Congress, through legislators, and have even met with different governors over the years. After one exhausts all legal options to right a wrong, one needs to explore other means of bringing an issue to the forefront. Perhaps the general public will vote in a different governor next week, and if so, we shall see where "Team Tony" goes with this issue.

I won't ask you to share your experiences with legislators in hope of changing your trapping laws. My guess is you're knee deep in family life and trying to make a living and there isn't much time for that sort of thing right now.

Oh, by the way, I'm not your "bro". My "bros" have much thicker skin than you have.

that made my day

That made mine too..I'm aware we not bruddas Lol, I have thick skin as well, unfortunately I stand on the opposite side of the line on this one for different reasons.:) Do I think that crossing tracks is a big deal..nope see it done all the time. At the end of the day if making an excuse makes you feel better to trespass on private property ^5 to ya.

Please share.

bet a buck he don't Mushrat.

Muskrat; For those who don’t live in that part of the state, or utilize those many miles of public ground. Will never truly understand what’s @ stake. They’re gonna argue just for the sake of arguing. You can never teach the ignorant ones.

Yes, please do.....

I crossed the tracks twice on Tues to get to and from my deer stand on private property. So If There are any RR dicks checking out this thread come and get me.

Jessie James never let the rail road get In his way neither will the beav. LOL

Sure, nothing to kick rocks over. So your tantrum at the "meetings" fell on deaf ears and you've exhausted all the legal avenues so if you can't beat'em cheat'em? Typed like a true sportsman, we need more sportsmen like that, to do what they want, and when they want when things don't go their way. Bruh I dun get down like tha, and if that's how all your "brethren" are, I'm glad to not be apart of it. It's the principle, bottom line you're knowingly trespassing to set traps. Which in many states is a big problem with sportsmen. Go on wiff ya bad self and Trap on! It's your RIGHT!