Re: Marines at The Border
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My point being many communities change and not in the self interests of it's native population. That can't be denied
When in the history of this country has that not been the case in regards to mass migration?
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Marines at The Border
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The difference between today vs then is the welfare state. The welfare state needs to be eliminated 100% agree.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
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Re: Marines at The Border
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Here are some questions.
If they are so poor WHO is paying for their food?
WHO is paying for their cell phones?
WHO is paying for their gasoline?
WHO is paying for the port a johns?
If anyone thinks this is not orchestrated by big money left wing kooks who want to destroy this country then tell me the answer to these questions.
So it's 1448 miles from Copan, Honduras to Brownsville, Texas. Let's say these folk(elderly, children, pregnant women) can walk 20 miles a day. That means they would have to complete this death march in 72 days. I didn't hear about this in August. Did any of you? This is planned to coincide with the election and this will be the "October surprise" from the left.
It is going to backfire BAD!! The vast majority of Americans are against Illegal immigration.
But the question remains. Who is feeding this hoard? I don't see any baskets of fish and bread so someone is fueling this march. I don't have time to read all the posts. But, my guess would be they are being bankrolled by American-hating George Soros. No one wants to destroy America more than he does.
Most in this country have things people in other countries only dream about. Yet, they want America to be more like those other countries.
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Re: Marines at The Border
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I think Trump about to lay the law down!
Rumor is they ain't getting across! More troops sent
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Re: Marines at The Border
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Migrant Caravan Refuses Offer Of Asylum, Work Assignments In Mexico
The caravan is at a standstill, however, amid reports of crime, child abduction.
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ByEMILY ZANOTTI @EMZANOTTI October 28, 2018 A migrant caravan currently snaking its way from Honduras to the United States's southern border was intercepted by Mexican government officials on Saturday, who offered the migrants the opportunity to stay in Mexico on work permits — an offer the migrant caravan has reportedly declined.
The Arizona Central reports that the caravan, which now numbers between five and seven thousand people, ran into a Mexican police blockade Saturday, temporarily halting progress on a bridge just outside the Mexican state of Oaxaca.
"Rows of police impeded the migrants’ path, prompting several hours of negotiations between police commanders, immigration officials and caravan representatives," the AZ Central said. Mexican officials reportedly offered the migrants "shelter, medical attention, schooling and jobs" if the migrants agreed to remain "in the southern Mexico states of Chiapas or Oaxaca," according to TIME Magazine.
"This plan does not truly respond to the causes of the Central American exodus, and therefore does not solve their needs from a perspective that respects human rights in a holistic way," a spokesperson for the caravan told AZ Central. “We don’t want any more prison cities where migrant people are confined without freedom of movement."
The migrants refused the Mexican government's offer, but say they may reconsider the deal once they reach Mexico City — a destination still at least several days away.
The caravan has been winding its way through southern Mexico after crossing over the border from Guatemala. The group is now around 190 miles north of the Guatemalan border, but is still thousands of miles from the U.S. border and progress has slowed in recent days, in part because of scorching daytime temperatures that cause disease and injury, but also in part because of incidents happening within the migrant caravan itself.
On Sunday, migrant caravan leaders announced they would "rest" for at least one day on reports of a missing child, whom some caravan members believe has been abducted, NBC News reports. Members of the caravan ran through a village late Saturday night looking for the child.
A similar incident is said to have occurred in a different city a few days ago.
There are also concerns of safety and "chivalry." "Many of the migrants have depended on hitchhiking to move between towns rather than walking the entire way. When trucks stop, it's usually young men who sprint to reach them first. Women carrying children or pushing strollers are at a disadvantage," according to NBC News.
The migrant caravan says it's determined to reach the U.S. border, where they hope President Trump will have a "change of heart" and allow its several thousand members to seek refuge and asylum in the United States. The United States Customs and Border Patrol says it will consider asylum claims if they are made at legitimate, legal border crossings, but that it will take some time to process and consider each individual claim.
President Trump, however, has taken a harder line, imploring the Mexican government to stop the migrant caravan somewhere within the country and turn it back. Trump has also threatened Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras — the countries where most of the migrants originate — with a loss of American aid if they do not help stop the migrant caravan and improve conditions within their own countries.
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Re: Marines at The Border
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Our troops at the border are going to be in a no win situation. They will be heavily scrutinized by a US and world media that despises them, so they won't likely be permitted to use an adequate level of force to protect themselves and our country. There is estimated to be over 10,000 people in the horde approaching our border. Most are young, adult men. 800 US soldiers are being sent to meet them at our border. Without using severe force, there is no way for people to control roughly 13 times their number. The horde is saying they will fight through and has already fought their way through other attempts to stop them.
We need a change in law about who and how people can enter our country and their rights and what they receive once they enter. We are no longer a largely unsettled wilderness. Much of the entire world's population would emigrate here, if they could. Resources are limited. It is time to limit most immigration to people who are a benefit to the current American population as a whole. If we don't, our standard of living will devolve until we are as poor as the third world countries' whose population is invading us.
The approaching horde needs to be treated very poorly, so that these invasions stop. There will be videos and photos, flooding the news media, of big brown eyed, little Hispanic children, suffering whatever force our troops use to stop the horde. We need to harden our hearts to these images, or our own future generations will suffer worse.
Keith This says it all. Very well done!
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Re: Marines at The Border
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If they are predominately young men do you think they are coming to collect welfare benefits? Maybe, but I doubt it.
We need to keep them out whatever their reasons are.
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Re: Marines at The Border
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You let these in and you will see an endless procession of illegal migrants coming here, similar to what we had for the 8 years under the rule of an anti American potus.
E 'Honey Badger Militia' Sleep, the anti woke adote.
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Re: Marines at The Border
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15,000 troops???? It a midterm election ploy. Those who praise this move would vote for anyone trump told them to anyway. No, but I'm voting for anybody that is shoving it up the media's rear. lol
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Re: Marines at The Border
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Migrant Caravan Refuses Offer Of Asylum, Work Assignments In Mexico
The caravan is at a standstill, however, amid reports of crime, child abduction.
Getty Images
ByEMILY ZANOTTI @EMZANOTTI October 28, 2018 A migrant caravan currently snaking its way from Honduras to the United States's southern border was intercepted by Mexican government officials on Saturday, who offered the migrants the opportunity to stay in Mexico on work permits — an offer the migrant caravan has reportedly declined.
The Arizona Central reports that the caravan, which now numbers between five and seven thousand people, ran into a Mexican police blockade Saturday, temporarily halting progress on a bridge just outside the Mexican state of Oaxaca.
"Rows of police impeded the migrants’ path, prompting several hours of negotiations between police commanders, immigration officials and caravan representatives," the AZ Central said. Mexican officials reportedly offered the migrants "shelter, medical attention, schooling and jobs" if the migrants agreed to remain "in the southern Mexico states of Chiapas or Oaxaca," according to TIME Magazine.
"This plan does not truly respond to the causes of the Central American exodus, and therefore does not solve their needs from a perspective that respects human rights in a holistic way," a spokesperson for the caravan told AZ Central. “We don’t want any more prison cities where migrant people are confined without freedom of movement."
The migrants refused the Mexican government's offer, but say they may reconsider the deal once they reach Mexico City — a destination still at least several days away.
The caravan has been winding its way through southern Mexico after crossing over the border from Guatemala. The group is now around 190 miles north of the Guatemalan border, but is still thousands of miles from the U.S. border and progress has slowed in recent days, in part because of scorching daytime temperatures that cause disease and injury, but also in part because of incidents happening within the migrant caravan itself.
On Sunday, migrant caravan leaders announced they would "rest" for at least one day on reports of a missing child, whom some caravan members believe has been abducted, NBC News reports. Members of the caravan ran through a village late Saturday night looking for the child.
A similar incident is said to have occurred in a different city a few days ago.
There are also concerns of safety and "chivalry." "Many of the migrants have depended on hitchhiking to move between towns rather than walking the entire way. When trucks stop, it's usually young men who sprint to reach them first. Women carrying children or pushing strollers are at a disadvantage," according to NBC News.
The migrant caravan says it's determined to reach the U.S. border, where they hope President Trump will have a "change of heart" and allow its several thousand members to seek refuge and asylum in the United States. The United States Customs and Border Patrol says it will consider asylum claims if they are made at legitimate, legal border crossings, but that it will take some time to process and consider each individual claim.
President Trump, however, has taken a harder line, imploring the Mexican government to stop the migrant caravan somewhere within the country and turn it back. Trump has also threatened Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras — the countries where most of the migrants originate — with a loss of American aid if they do not help stop the migrant caravan and improve conditions within their own countries. this sums up the fact that mexico isnt there target. They are not looking for asylum either. Someone is trying to start something. Idk who,or what.
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Re: Marines at The Border
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Mom's for America are now at the border here in Texas with a press conference today urging an end to the open border scenario. Mom's north and south of the border suffer with an irrational process, such as we have today. Woman and children are often stranded as men from their country migrate illegally to America. Seems as though legions of men come here, send money back for awhile but then marry or forget about "back there" and women and children are left to cope with life, money troubles, gangs in the neighborhood, etc. Sounds like a wonderful set up that any progressive could get behind and feel good about! https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/...n-and-children/
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