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bout fed up with mb650s #6409403
12/26/18 04:16 PM
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just about had it with the mb650s.......another pull out grrrr!! pan tension is set at 3 lbs. gettin real tired of the crap!! i got them because of the low maintence aspect..........turning out to be in pain in the backside. pan tension is 3lbs according to the trap pan tension tester.


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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409408
12/26/18 04:23 PM
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That is surprising I bet, as strong as I hear they are, odd you would have trouble, but then I don't have any of that trpe, I have Bridgers

Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409414
12/26/18 04:30 PM
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Sounds really weird to me. Sure it's not deer?

I've yet to have a pullout with the 650s (other than deer or a tiny critter).

Mine are a lot less than 3 lbs though. Toss those pan tensioners in the trash.

Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409420
12/26/18 04:37 PM
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What does pan tension have to do with a pullout in the first place?

Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409423
12/26/18 04:39 PM
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not 100% sure if its deer or not...........but i'm using straight peat moss......and nothing with salt as far as I know in the attractors. pvc had hellfire in it.....another flat set had death gland , and a dirthole this morning with soul taker..........trap is fired off and out of the bed......no catch circle. its almost like a toe caught yote scenario.


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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409424
12/26/18 04:40 PM
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I don't have any 650's but I do use several 750's. I have never had anything pull out of one.

I'm inclined to suspect deer also.


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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409425
12/26/18 04:44 PM
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I used peat, too. Depending on how much you use, coon like to play in peat. I cut mine down to just inside the jaws, personally....but I rarely lose a coon in them either. I'm using the cast jaws (if that makes any difference).

Same with my 750s White. The same guy designed both traps.

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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409427
12/26/18 04:51 PM
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any hogs around?


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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409430
12/26/18 04:52 PM
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I love my 650's Easy to bed them with both jaws being fixed. Mine are offset and laminated with no problems. Great trap.

Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409433
12/26/18 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
not 100% sure if its deer or not...........but i'm using straight peat moss......and nothing with salt as far as I know in the attractors. pvc had hellfire in it.....another flat set had death gland , and a dirthole this morning with soul taker..........trap is fired off and out of the bed......no catch circle. its almost like a toe caught yote scenario.

Deer are attracted to everything. I tested a bunch of lures this fall and didn't find one the deer would pass by. My bet is deer if they are around.

Last edited by Yes sir; 12/26/18 06:56 PM.
Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409447
12/26/18 05:14 PM
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bedded with peat? foxes love to dig at peat around here. pull out would most likely have a catch circle . . . just a trap snapped and flipped out of the bed screams coon or fox to me. unless you have a trap contamination problem. set up a trail camera, it will most likely tell the story. good luck


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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409448
12/26/18 05:18 PM
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Any hunters blundering around?

Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409455
12/26/18 05:26 PM
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I am pretty sure I caught the same doe in one of my sets 3 days in a row, I think she didnt like the coyote gland lure and would stomp around the set

Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409457
12/26/18 05:28 PM
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Maybe rolling on the trap


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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409463
12/26/18 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
.trap is fired off and out of the bed......no catch circle..


Deer,
But I will gladly trade you some Sleepy Creek # 3 cs os for them, then you would have a trap to cuss


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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: K9man] #6409541
12/26/18 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by K9man
I am pretty sure I caught the same doe in one of my sets 3 days in a row, I think she didnt like the coyote gland lure and would stomp around the set

Actually got videos of deer and coyote glands. It's kind of funny they jump pretty good when they hit the odor then the go right up to it and put their nose within an inch of it

Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409546
12/26/18 07:06 PM
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I would almost bet it's deer. Never had a genuine pull out of an MB650 from a coyote or any other fur bearer.


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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: late bite] #6409569
12/26/18 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by late bite
What does pan tension have to do with a pullout in the first place?

Too light a pan tension means the trap can fire before the animal is fully committed, leading to toe catches and/or pull-outs..


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Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: E.Shell] #6409622
12/26/18 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by E.Shell
Originally Posted by late bite
What does pan tension have to do with a pullout in the first place?

Too light a pan tension means the trap can fire before the animal is fully committed, leading to toe catches and/or pull-outs..

Ur saying if a coyotes foot is touching the pan when the trap fires that its fast enough to react and pull back if it's got less than 3# on pan?

Re: bout fed up with mb650s [Re: foxkidd44] #6409633
12/26/18 08:30 PM
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Should have a catch circle....I suspect deer

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