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Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: The Beav] #6411481
12/28/18 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I have never had a quick link open up on me. But I always tighten with a wrench.
Why use quick links. Because if you want to replace a dirty or messed up trap at the set your just seconds from changing out traps. If you can't get your anchors out It's easy to remove the trap and just leave your anchors.
Every trap and snare I have Is connected to my anchor with a quick link.

Also if you remove an anchor you have to move trap because a new anchor is not going to hold in the loose dirt from pulling one. Trust me, and if you don't want to that is fine but when you lose a catch because anchor came out just remember, ITold You So.....


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Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: strike2x] #6411531
12/28/18 04:41 PM
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its a no brainer! You either forgot to close the link (done it) or didn't tighten it. Use of them is quick, easy and gives some protection from theft!

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6414333
12/31/18 12:17 PM
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Guess what.

Set 8 cables yesterday first one checked this morning I can see the catch circle 200 yards away. No coyote no snare either. Dug around and guess what there Is a OPEN quick link.
You can never say never but I didn't use my wrench either.
But I did catch one today. Now It's raining go figure.


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Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: The Beav] #6414374
12/31/18 01:12 PM
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Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: SkyeDancer] #6415742
01/01/19 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyeDancer
Originally Posted by mauser06
What is the reason for the quick link anyways???

Why not loop the cable through the chain and close a ferrule?




Maybe I am missing something. Maybe I'm doing something completely wrong...I don't know.


Quick links are just that.....Quick to attach\detach. Tightening the with a wrench makes it harder for the casual thief to steel them. Some use J hooks and carry a tool to attach\detach them. Probably even more secure


x2 on the J hooks

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6415823
01/01/19 07:51 PM
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I would say B unless your quick link wasn't tightened with a wrench or vice grips, then anything may be possible. I am more confident in them than an unwelded j hook. Did you have trouble with the stakes too? Sounded like you weren't happy with them in the first paragraph?

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6416043
01/01/19 10:43 PM
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I have not been using a tool to tighten my quick links. I have just been hand tightening and I noticed here lately I have been not REMEMBERING if I tightened them or not.

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I believe that with this disclosure you provided the necessary information to answer your own question.

I use a screwdriver and a wrench to tighten them. When properly tightened, they are secure.

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6416087
01/01/19 11:30 PM
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This exact issue has come up on hear several times over the years. The quick link can open when a critter is working the set if they are just finger tight. You've got to use vice grip or channel locks to tight the quick link.

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: pass-thru] #6416177
01/02/19 06:40 AM
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A small wrench of the right size is cheap and easier to carry

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6416181
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Skye - that is exactly what I carry. I also use a flat screwdriver to hold the link to get better leverage.

Personally, I cannot imagine intentionally using them “finger tight”!

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: Willy Firewood] #6416195
01/02/19 07:11 AM
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The screw driver or something similar, is really important when it comes time to pick them up as the link can be frozen or caked in mud

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: SkyeDancer] #6416284
01/02/19 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyeDancer
A small wrench of the right size is cheap and easier to carry


It is also very easy to lose if you do not tether it to something. I keep a good pair of pliers and screwdriver in my bucket, pack or tool belt to tighten and loosen them. Helps keep the two legged critters from casually walking off with something also. Not many folks walking around with tools in their pockets.

I am using the quick links mostly to attach extension cables when water trapping though. Have a friend who uses the large split rings and he had some beaver snares casually walk off the other day.

Quick links are one of many tools and I consider them a great addition to my tool box. The only time I have had a problem with them was my fault 100%.


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Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6416465
01/02/19 12:56 PM
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I use the same set up and never had one open or break. My guess is you got ripped off or yeah it does happen you forgot to close it. I pulled one up one time and guess what never connected it trap was bedded no quick connect, just bedded the trap without hooking up. Ever checked your conibear and see the safety latches on, it happens. Lost my trapping trowel one day came back over the line on the next check found it next to the set with a dandy coyote all chewed up, so much for wiley coyote or trapper.

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: QuietButDeadly] #6416600
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Originally Posted by QuietButDeadly
Originally Posted by SkyeDancer
A small wrench of the right size is cheap and easier to carry


It is also very easy to lose if you do not tether it to something. I keep a good pair of pliers and screwdriver in my bucket, pack or tool belt to tighten and loosen them. Helps keep the two legged critters from casually walking off with something also. Not many folks walking around with tools in their pockets.

I am using the quick links mostly to attach extension cables when water trapping thvough. Have a friend who uses the large split rings and he had some beaver snares casually walk off the other day.

Quick links are one of many tools and I consider them a great addition to my tool box. The only time I have had a problem with them was my fault 100%.


I guess being a bit compulsive about putting the wrench back in it’s place back in the setting bag pays off as I’ve never lost one

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Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6416647
01/02/19 04:13 PM
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For the most part I do all that back in the shop.
Is It possible that If a coyote runs around creating that catch circle that a quick link rubbing on the ground could come un done?
I'm just about positive that I tightened down that quick link. But The neighbor lady who Is drop dead gorgeous did ride up on me on her horse while I was hanging that snare and distracted me. LOL


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Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6416847
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^^ cool

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: The Beav] #6416927
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Originally Posted by The Beav
For the most part I do all that back in the shop.
Is It possible that If a coyote runs around creating that catch circle that a quick link rubbing on the ground could come un done?
I'm just about positive that I tightened down that quick link. But The neighbor lady who Is drop dead gorgeous did ride up on me on her horse while I was hanging that snare and distracted me. LOL



Now that is one of the best excuses!

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6417050
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It's a true story.


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Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: AmendII71] #6417082
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Beav - I never doubted the veracity of your story. It is a wonderful excuse - one of those situations which just does not happen frequently enough.

I can only hope that when I someday may forget to tighten a quick link that the reason is as good or better.

I do have a story about the holding power of a 3/16” quick link. At a new coyote set an mb550 was connected to a cable stake with a 3/16” quick link. The land was also used by a deer hunter who had permission. I do not know if it was the deer hunter. However, some person found the trap and tried to remove it. They connected it to a 4 wheeler or something and really pulled but the stake and quicklink held. The trap did not come apart, but is so bent that the only reusable part is the pan.

Re: Quick Links with Disposable Stake Problem [Re: The Beav] #6417087
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I have never had a quick link open up on me. But I always tighten with a wrench.
Why use quick links. Because if you want to replace a dirty or messed up trap at the set your just seconds from changing out traps. If you can't get your anchors out It's easy to remove the trap and just leave your anchors.
Every trap and snare I have Is connected to my anchor with a quick link.


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Beav - I do the same with all of my traps and snares. I terminate the chain with a 3/16” quick link. I switched over to this complete system / method after reading your description about doing this. I thought that it sounded brilliant and would suit me very well in my methods of securing traps and snares and organizing equipment. Thank you!

This method adds tremendous versatility for various soil conditions and applications. It also simplifies cleanup, waxing, and storage. No more not having the correct fastening system attached.

I have multiple staking systems with a few links of chain that can be attached as desired. Single stake swivel anchors, double stake swivel anchors, chained finned super stakes, cable stakes where the top 6” is chain, and cable extensions of different lengths usually used with snares and 220s and 330s.

Another system / method that I learned here is the predrilling as taught by Taximan. Thank you Taximan! I carry a high power cordless 1/2” hammer drill to predrill stake holes. When the ground is not frozen, I use long ship auger drill bits from Harbor freight. Of course I also use it to power a 2” or 3” auger to drill dirt holes for bait and lure. When the ground is frozen, I use long Bosch carbide masonry bits to predrill stake holes. I also have a large carbide masonry bit to drill out mouse holes for lure and bait and to rough drill out a trap bed in the frozen soil. Then, it is necessary to just chip out the remaining areas. Predrilling stake holes and drilling holes for lure and bait saves a tremendous amount of wear and tear on old beat up shoulders and wrists.

These two methods / systems are the best that I have learned here on Trapperman. Thank you guys!

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