Re: my sons iq
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01/06/19 12:43 PM
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Mike in A-town
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Whatever you do, encourage him. I'm not going to rag on public education. But it tries to force kids to fit a mold and move at the same speed as everyone else... It just doesn't work for the exceptional kids. They tend to get bored and give up.
My sister pulled both her boys out of public school. The youngest absolutely despised public school. He isn't a sit-still-and-read-and-recite kid. He is mechanically minded and has a drive to tinker and take things apart and make things. He still receives instruction in the essentials but has more free time to devote to mechanical work.
The kid is 10 and for his birthday and Christmas he asked for tools... And that's what he got.
He's "hyper" and can be exasperating at times. But if you sit down to teach him something that he is curious about he immediately settles down and you can see him soaking it all in.
Encourage him to go as far as he can.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: my sons iq
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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01/06/19 12:48 PM
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Whatever you do, encourage him. I'm not going to rag on public education. But it tries to force kids to fit a mold and move at the same speed as everyone else... It just doesn't work for the exceptional kids. They tend to get bored and give up.
My sister pulled both her boys out of public school. The youngest absolutely despised public school. He isn't a sit-still-and-read-and-recite kid. He is mechanically minded and has a drive to tinker and take things apart and make things. He still receives instruction in the essentials but has more free time to devote to mechanical work.
The kid is 10 and for his birthday and Christmas he asked for tools... And that's what he got.
He's "hyper" and can be exasperating at times. But if you sit down to teach him something that he is curious about he immediately settles down and you can see him soaking it all in.
Encourage him to go as far as he can.
Mike you are exactly right. I pulled him out of public once.......he is in private. BUT his mom had him doing more at 18 months to 2 than the school teaches at 4. He is going back to 1 on 1...the school bores him. He has alot of learning tools at home and I take him everywhere. Only reason he goes to any school is for the comraderie of the kids
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Re: my sons iq
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01/06/19 03:28 PM
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Whatever you do, encourage him. I'm not going to rag on public education. But it tries to force kids to fit a mold and move at the same speed as everyone else... It just doesn't work for the exceptional kids. They tend to get bored and give up.
My sister pulled both her boys out of public school. The youngest absolutely despised public school. He isn't a sit-still-and-read-and-recite kid. He is mechanically minded and has a drive to tinker and take things apart and make things. He still receives instruction in the essentials but has more free time to devote to mechanical work.
The kid is 10 and for his birthday and Christmas he asked for tools... And that's what he got.
He's "hyper" and can be exasperating at times. But if you sit down to teach him something that he is curious about he immediately settles down and you can see him soaking it all in.
Encourage him to go as far as he can.
Mike you are exactly right. I pulled him out of public once.......he is in private. BUT his mom had him doing more at 18 months to 2 than the school teaches at 4. He is going back to 1 on 1...the school bores him. He has alot of learning tools at home and I take him everywhere. Only reason he goes to any school is for the comraderie of the kids There are better places for him to get the camaraderie of other kids that don’t keep him bored for several hours a day which can be a real killer for som one who is beyond the curriculum The best advice you got in my opinion is to talk to an expert if your school doesn’t have one then should be able to put you in contact with one but there is a lot of good advice in the above posts Just be glad you have a exceptional son and not a daughter, both my kids tested as well above the mark and both were in the same school system but where my son was encouraged to take all the advanced classes he could my daughter had to fight for almost every one she wanted to take One thing I have always e thankful fo is that both my kids got my smarts but also got their mothers stubborn streak and will to fight for what they want All right n all it sounds like you will do well by your son
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: my sons iq
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01/07/19 08:33 AM
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If he is as bright as the experts say he is, find a good school for him and resist the temptation to blame any stumble he my take as the fault of that school. I have seen many, many kids identified as "gifted" fall short of the accomplishments of other bright students because of an elitist attitude the lable planted in their(and their parents) heads. Two of these cases resulted in law suits against the districts(one was successful)the kids attended claiming the school did not challenge the kid enough. Kinda funny when you know the kid(who seems no brighter than average) and the for fact that his GPA was in the B- range-and he missed at least a day or two every week. Niether of these young men finished college and are still living with their mothers in their late 20's.--but I digress
Depending upon where you live, there are some schools he can attend that will hold him to high standards and will allow him to explore advanced levels of activities in more than just traditional areas of his education-Think STEM. The fields of Science, Technology, Engineering, Math are broad enough that he can go as far as his abilities and efforts will take him.
All that said, most public schools can provide a very good education to any kid if he resists the temptation to "coast" his way through school and(probably more important) stays out a peer group made up of kids who look at education as something they are forced to suffer until they are 18.
IMHO, the most important thing a parent can do to ensure a kid reaches his potential is to encourage him chalenge himself, hold him accountable, and don't accept excuses.
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Re: my sons iq
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01/07/19 11:27 AM
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I have very little to offer here except that he is a very impressive child with incredible potential to be whatever he chooses in life. At that age I had just learned how to eat crayons.
I'm just happy to be here! Today I'm as young as I'll ever be and and older than I've ever been before!
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Re: my sons iq
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01/07/19 02:23 PM
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Sounds like you’re doing things to the best of your and his abilities. Chinese do something similar. They REQUIRE their kindergarten aged kids to be able to read some English by the time they get to school. So, parents are always reading to them, having them listen to audio and video training training, or enrolling them in pre-kindergarten classes. By third grade, these same kids have to get 100% on 40-question math exams to keep up with the school requirements. It’s insane but it also produces kids who can read, write and think in 2 languages. And it’s why China is beating us in literacy today.
It’s the parental commitment like yours that will help him get even better
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Re: my sons iq
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01/07/19 03:38 PM
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Sounds like you’re doing things to the best of your and his abilities. Chinese do something similar. They REQUIRE their kindergarten aged kids to be able to read some English by the time they get to school. So, parents are always reading to them, having them listen to audio and video training training, or enrolling them in pre-kindergarten classes. By third grade, these same kids have to get 100% on 40-question math exams to keep up with the school requirements. It’s insane but it also produces kids who can read, write and think in 2 languages. And it’s why China is beating us in literacy today.
It’s the parental commitment like yours that will help him get even better thanks teacher. Youre right. Even the philippines is leading the usa in academics now. I didnt believe it until I brought my son here and experienced it. His mom taught him at home in philippines. At 3 months he consistantly said mom and dad,,at 18 months abc"s...at 2 yrs he memorized now i lay me down to sleep and the lords prayer in 9 days saying it once a night. He speaks filipino,english and a little italian. At 3 he counted to 50. I give credit to his mom for these things. We knew very early he was different as did everybody around us. Our neighbor was a retired professor from austraila,,sons grandpa was mathmetician for coca cola...they raised 10 kids and 10 college grads . He was speaking 4 syllable words at 16-18 months because all his relatives names were 3-4 syllables.grandma ipispania,,grandpa rogelio,,terresita etc, When I brought him to usa at 3 he was speaking in 8-10 word phrases. A child psychologist from philippines was on plane with us coming to usa across the aisle. When we landed in california she asked me "how old is he"? I replied he turned 3 last week and she told me"he is very advanced"! We suspected it but heck,dont all parents think that?
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Re: my sons iq
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01/07/19 04:11 PM
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tested at 170...we always knew he was bright. He qualifies for the mensa records but we just want him to be a boy. The schools are behind him here for his age but his mom and I want him to be with kids his age. It was an experiment. My neighbor was Dr larry J roszman born and bred over on the next section. a Genius and rocket scientist. His mom told me what she believed made him that way. I told his(my sons ) mom to do it when he was born. She did. At 3 months he said mom and dad consistantly....did abc"s at 18 months...picked up lords prayer and now i lay me down to sleep in a week at 2. spoke complete sentences very early and pronounced 4 syllable names at 2. His moms family is also smart. So now you know his potential......find a way to help him reach it
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