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Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: virgil1972] #6421185
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Originally Posted by virgil1972
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Maybe the best way to Show our support for the second should be something that can be discussed?

What is there to discuss? You have a right or you do not.


We DO have the right.

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I'm guessing the people at the rally, who are about to lose a right, really don't care to "discuss" anymore.

You either support having guns, or you don't. Where is the middle ground to that? Where is the ground to be discussed?

Are we to show our support by hiding behind closed doors? We (gun owners) have hid them long enough, imo. I remember walking down many roads nefore i got a drivers license with a gun slung over my shoulder, and people were use to it. Now we all got to be politically correct and if someone sees another with a gun, they get all butt-hurt.

Too bad, again in my opinion.

Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: gryhkl] #6421192
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If you have to ask to bear arms then you do not. Do you ask the government for permission before you say something as well?

Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: Wright Brothers] #6421193
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We still see folks walking along the road here who are carrying a gun. I did it every day in deer season.

Hal, who's Ken?

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Then why are you against the people of Pittsburg doing the same thing?

Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: gryhkl] #6421198
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Hal, who's Ken?


White17=Ken


Eh...wot?

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Thanks, lug.

Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: Wright Brothers] #6421200
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Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: Wright Brothers] #6421201
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I've had a camp in northern Maine for the past nine years. I had to look twice the first time I saw someone open carrying up there. Once hunting season starts it is pretty common, no permits required even for concealed carry. The only thing that I don't like is finding four 9 mm empties & a shot coyote @ one of my traps. With four shots they grazed a back leg and put one in the neck. not bad shooting from a range of five feet.

Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: gryhkl] #6421208
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
We still see folks walking along the road here who are carrying a gun. I did it every day in deer season.

Hal, who's Ken?

But they had to ask for permission to exercise there "right". Say the federal government passed a law saying people could not say anything bad about the feds unless they filled out paperwork and sent them a special tax, is that still freedom of speech?

Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: hippie] #6421215
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Originally Posted by hippie
Then why are you against the people of Pittsburg doing the same thing?


It has to do with the context of the thing. Anyone passing me as I walk along the road from the end of our property at the end of a day of hunting knows why the gun is there. If I have a hand gun with me for personal protection, I see no reason to carry it openly(unless I don't have a CCpermit). And I see no reason to carry openly at a rally, even a 2nd amend rally, where it may make some of the locals uneasy.

Most people understand that we have a right to own and carry firearms, though they may have no interest in owning one of their own. And most of these are just fine with leaving the gun laws as they are-kinda an outta sight outta mind kind of thing.
These folks have no desire to become vocal anti-gun advocates. But seeing 500 to 1000 guys carrying pistols on their hips or assault rifles(we all know what I'm talking about)across their chest or slung over their beck, may very well change their view on the legality of some of the weapons.

Is it helpful to gun owners to boost the ranks of the antis?
If it's "all about exercising our rights", how helpful will such displays be if our politicians see that there is greater political gains to be made by joining the antis than by backing current gun laws?.........These things should be discussed-IMHO, of course.


Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: white17] #6421217
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Originally Posted by white17
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A show of support for gun owners could be just as effective, maybe more so, if there was not the encouragement to have so many in the croud carry openly. And I think more gun owners would attend such rallies if there weren't so many doing it.



I agree

Why would gun owners be afraid to be around guns.

Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: Wright Brothers] #6421221
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Another KDKA News Report

It went off without a hitch. Most reliable estimates put attendance at 600-800 people. A few long guns on display but the large majority were carrying sidearms.

The city was playing games with signage prior to the rally. The attorney named in the Trib Live Article is my 2A lawyer friend.

He and his team work harder than anyone I know to have anti-gun laws overturned and he's very successful at it.


Eh...wot?

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I would like to add, there is a difference in advocating and "flaunting". I am in agreement that flaunting is not a way to extend our longevity.
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It not only gun owners that vote, cci.

Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: cci] #6421229
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Originally Posted by cci

Why would gun owners be afraid to be around guns.


I don't think anyone said they were afraid. It's just lousy PR, IMO . If you are trying to get the support of non-gun owners, why come across as Rambo rather than a rational person ?


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Re: Pittsburgh pro carry rally, noon [Re: white17] #6421233
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by cci

Why would gun owners be afraid to be around guns.


I don't think anyone said they were afraid. It's just lousy PR, IMO . If you are trying to get the support of non-gun owners, why come across as Rambo rather than a rational person ?


That sums things up nicely.

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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by cci

Why would gun owners be afraid to be around guns.


I don't think anyone said they were afraid. It's just lousy PR, IMO . If you are trying to get the support of non-gun owners, why come across as Rambo rather than a rational person ?

I'm sure our forefathers thought the same way, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense would it lol.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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