Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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And that was how many years before "paganism"? The way I see it is the bible was wrote up to control people. How can you prove me wrong? It was written to control people. Some think is was written by God others think it was written by man.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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And that was how many years before "paganism"? The way I see it is the bible was wrote up to control people. How can you prove me wrong? Well, God made the seventh day holy. So from the beginning. Not many people I know keep the Sabbath. So I guess the bible isn't controlling too many people.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Catch ... what you are asking is a true catch 22 question. You see, almost every religion on the planet claims that its deity created what we call the cosmos. So by default there can not be a time "before" whatever religion one talks about. Consequently, if you seek truth, you have to look beyond religions. <<< This one is not going to go down well with religious folks. And I must emphasize that this is my view. Its not written in stone and no one is going to get stapled to a oijiboard if they disagree with it.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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And that was how many years before "paganism"? The way I see it is the bible was wrote up to control people. How can you prove me wrong? And to add, The Ten commandments... Don't kill, steal, fornicate, covet, don't worship rocks, lie, etc ect. You think these are about controlling people?
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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No Amspoker thats just common sense. "Treat people like you want to be treated" is pretty much the same thing in not so may words.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Can anyone point to a single concept in Christianity, that was not previously in another religion. I can't think of any.
Keith I'll have a stab at it. The Ten Commandments. The bible teaches against all the pagan influences you speak of Catch22. Not all people who are "Christians" do the pagan stuff. In this case the other religion is very, very, very obviously Judaism. That is completely ignoring the multitudes of clay and stone tablets , often with the same laws, produced by other cultures, before the 10 Commandments. Keith
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Keith, salvation is not earned(works) it is given(grace).
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Keith, salvation is not earned(works) it is given(grace). At what point in time? Why is your God the God?
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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I'll have a stab at it.
The Ten Commandments. The bible teaches against all the pagan influences you speak of Catch22.
Not all people who are "Christians" do the pagan stuff.
In this case the other religion is very, very, very obviously Judaism. That is completely ignoring the multitudes of clay and stone tablets , often with the same laws, produced by other cultures, before the 10 Commandments. Keith The seventh day sabbath is a sign of God's people. Formed at creation. Kept by Christ. Observed by the new testament church. To be kept in the future. I don't know many other cultures that kept that law for one example.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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No Amspoker thats just common sense. "Treat people like you want to be treated" is pretty much the same thing in not so may words. That is what the last six of the ten commandments are about. Love thy neighbor.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Can anyone point to a single concept in Christianity, that was not previously in another religion. I can't think of any.
Keith Has there ever been any other religion where the shepard died for the sheep?
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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The seventh day sabbath is a sign of God's people.
Formed at creation.
Kept by Christ.
Observed by the new testament church.
To be kept in the future.
I don't know many other cultures that kept that law for one example.
Very, very, very obviously Judaism again before Christianity. Keith
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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[quote=amspoker][quote=KeithC]Can anyone point to a single concept in Christianity, that was not previously in another religion. I can't think of any.
Keith
In this case the other religion is very, very, very obviously Judaism. That is completely ignoring the multitudes of clay and stone tablets , often with the same laws, produced by other cultures, before the 10 Commandments.
Keith You said religions. Show me another religion with that concept.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Very, very, very obviously Judaism again before Christianity.
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Show me in the Christian bible, one scripture, where Sunday is holy.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Very, very, very obviously Judaism again before Christianity.
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Show me in the Christian bible, one scripture, where Sunday is holy. One day reigion will never do, God expects all week from you.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Judaism and Christianity are different religions. The Christians took the Old Testament from the Jews.
Keith I'm not making myself clear. And it is hard for me to type lengthy explanations on my tablet.Lol So g 'night.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Judaism and Christianity are different religions. The Christians took the Old Testament from the Jews.
Keith I'm not making myself clear. And it is hard for me to type lengthy explanations on my tablet.Lol So g 'night. Goodnight. Keith
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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Reckon G'nite sums it up.
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Re: How much has paganism influenced Christianity
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No Amspoker thats just common sense. "Treat people like you want to be treated" is pretty much the same thing in not so may words. Why would you want to treat people as you want to be treated? Without a deity, you are left with: " Life is short, Grab all you can get and who cares who you have to trample?" Right and wrong mean what in a world where there is no ultimate authority? Right or wrong are whatever one wants them to be in that world.
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