WH Journal
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01/19/19 11:06 PM
01/19/19 11:06 PM
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I have had so much fun reading journals from guys like Bushman and AK Howler - super interesting, informative, and a heck of a lot more entertaining than watching TV.
Decided to start my own. Hope you guys enjoy...
I'm just currently working on starting my own small bit of trapping here on the Peninsula. It won't be any kind of "line" (more like finding a "niche" or a couple of random spots) - at least for this year, but it will be a start. It would be "like a dream" to catch a first wolf, or wolverine - two species I have never caught before. They would go great with my "collection" - which I will show you later.
So - in the process of gathering bait. Scouting spots. Getting my boat up, and operational. Possibly looking for a snow machine. Getting traps and gear in order. I'm getting poised to place bait. Could use a little fresh snow as the hard crust isn't exactly conducive for tracks. The good thing is, it's about hard enough to support my incredible bulk!
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/19/19 11:47 PM
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I will start with this fun memory from my last trapping season in Minnesota a few years ago. I was doing a nuisance beaver job for a couple who were getting lots of beaver damaging the trees in their yard at night. I learned about the opportunity from a friend of a friend. I called, and they asked me to come right over. They showed me their property lines. At the base of their lot was this huge beaver lodge - that had been there a long time. I had a few hours before dark, and I hit it full force with #330 Conibear. During the night, there was a big snowstorm. The critters really moved, and the next morning - my traps were full. I don't know how many beaver were in that hut, but I caught 6 beaver and 3 otter the first night. I may have caught more, but that was all the traps I had time to put in. I reset everything, and the next morning, I had five more beaver and another otter. The couple then called the trapping to a halt. They had agreed to pay me $50 per beaver, but didn't expect me to catch that many, that fast. Personally, when I laid eyes on that hut - I knew there were a lot of beaver in there, and I was fairly drooling at the prospect. I think the couple was also sorry to see the otter go. I was not targeting them, but there wasn't much I could do as the family moved in, and were all over the hut and the entrances. The one that didn't get caught the first night, came back the second night. The "grandpa and grandma" beavers of the hut were 63# and 56# respectively. I also caught numerous two year olds, and surprisingly, no kits. The photo is a favorite trapping photo of mine. The hut with the deep, clingy snow, the gear, and the first four catches was really picturesque. To top it off, I had two nephews who are "apprenticing" with me, and they shared the set and the catch with me.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/20/19 12:29 AM
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The "nephews" on that same day, with one of the grandparents. They aren't really my nephews - they are sons of a best friend from high school. But they call me "Uncle Tim" and I call them whatever comes to mind at the time. These two have been tromping in the woods with me since their mother would let them. Seems like many, many years. They will grow up to be trappers, and we will keep this important tradition alive! Teased this giant beaver into a small bank location about a hundred yards from the main lodge. Used castor from a mature beaver from a different colony, mixed with glycerine, and made into a puree. Put that upwind of the big hut, with a few fresh cuttings. Sucked that big momma right in!
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/20/19 01:24 AM
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The first thing I really "got into" here was bear hunting. It was the easiest thing to do, for a nonresident hunter waiting to become a resident. I've harvested quite a few blackies over the years - but all were average sized bears, on the beach, until this one. When I started really glassing this particularly big bruin that was up in the alpine, and typically doing the same thing, in the same area, every day. This hunt was quite the saga - more than I really want to write right now, but the whole thing took me two days, alone, to climb up, stalk, harvest the bear, break it down, and get it back down to my boat. The hide now adorns my banister. The skull is being bleached for display. And, I just ate bear chili with cornbread. YUM!
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/20/19 02:09 AM
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Posco- lots of alpine berries. More than a herd of bears could eat in that one spot. Maybe more berries per square inch than I have ever seen anytime, anywhere. This one would waddle up out of the alders and turn on the vacuum. He would spend all day, and hardly move. His hind quarters and guts were so big, he was nearly dragging on the ground. He would lay down and eat. Fall asleep there too, I think. I work on the water, and have lots of time to observe. This went on for a couple weeks. I needed a day off, with the right kind of wind and weather. It all came together rather nicely. In the photo, the hind quarters look so big - the skull looks small - but, biologist says over ten years old, and the biggest skull he measured in many years.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/20/19 11:17 AM
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Good stories, WH. Welcome to Tman.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/20/19 02:19 PM
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I did quite a bit of research. It would appear that certain areas in Alaska could really use a good trapping supply house - and yet, were are they? I find places with a little of this, and a little of that (Cabelas or Kachemak Gear Shed)- but not a one-stop-shop. I talked to several guys on T-man - and they are ordering supplies from the lower 48, or making their own. Shipping becomes crazy expensive - but if they can ship from the lower 48 - why not from AK? Anyway - the solution for me was - a good bunch of my traps migrated with me from MN up to AK after a visit for the Christmas holiday. For future reverence, if you want to keep it under 50 pounds, you get a suitcase this size, and put in 8 Belisle #330, a few odds and ends, and there you go! TSA gets to see something they don't get to see every day (those bored sons of B's need variety I say), and I have instant seasoned traps to work with. Everybody should be happy!
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Re: WH Journal
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01/20/19 04:38 PM
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Behind Boondocks gun shop in Eagle River, there is a trapping store. If it is locked, the guy who runs it is probably in Boondocks helping sale guns. Just go in Boondocks and ask for him.
Psalm 34:6
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/20/19 04:39 PM
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I always stop in when I fly to the road system to get supplies.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/21/19 06:25 PM
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Yesterday afternoon, I got out for a very chilly ride on my ATV. I followed snow machines that had gone on before me, packed things down, and "paved my way." If I got off the track, the snow was deep, and I got stuck a couple of times - especially at higher altitudes. It took some muscling things around to get out, but I was able. Wound up putting about 35 miles on the ATV in just a few hours. Some areas had better rabbit sign than others. The crust made it really difficult to decipher predator tracks - but I know I saw coyote and lynx tracks. Lots and lots of moose sign. On the way home, I came across a herd of at least a dozen moose wintering amongst the willows. Several were younger bulls - and it appeared to be primarily a "bachelor group." There was one big old bull who had HUGE pedicels, but no antlers, and the pedicels weren't bloody. But it still made me want to go shed hunting. A very chilly me didn't stop for pics. I was bent on a hot shower, and my phone battery was toast anyway - from the cold. But here's a cool moose shot from a walk the other night - when my wife and I took our three "knuckleheads" for a run down on the beach. Got a dusting of snow this am. Perhaps more at higher altitudes. Sort of excited for Wednesday - my next chance to scout for at least a half day, and maybe decipher some fresh tracks, and species.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/27/19 05:39 PM
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Yesterday was my first day of "recon" out in the boat. This is my rig, with the new lid... I went across with bait, some traps and tools and supplies, a can-do attitude, and a canoe. YES, a CANOE. You hard core Alaskans, go ahead and have your fun. I can take your ribbing. We folks with roots in the lower 48 have found lots of use for them - from exploring the boundary waters canoe wilderness in Northern Mn, to the Quetico Wilderness in Ontario, to waterfowl hunting rice beds and rivers, to the trapline. They are part of a "way of life" for us down there, just like your skiff is up here. Hey - what did our trapping forefathers use all across Canada and the lower 48, when it was first being discovered? It may not be ideal, but it serves a purpose. I use mine as a "dingy" for getting me back and forth to shore, when I am going to be on shore for awhile, and I need to moor my boat in deeper water. This would be for hiking, berry picking, and bear hunting in spring, summer and fall. Yesterday, I used mine for the first time in winter. As you will see, it was definitely ideal, but it was a kind of a "life saver." Nonetheless, it has me rethinking my future adventures. I'll take your input. I arrived at low tide. Moored my boat in one foot of water at noon. High tide was 6:30. I planned to be back by 4:00 ish. I took the canoe and loaded my supplies into it. Then waded up a small river that flowed out of the mountains, pulling the canoe with a rope. When I got above the tideline, I ditched the canoe, and continued in on foot. The above is sort of what the surrounding country looks like. Thick willows, alder and devils club right along the river. Mature conifers on the flat leading to the side hill. Then the side hills roll, sometimes going straight up, sometimes bumpy - going up to mountains that are 2-3,000 feet, maybe a little more. Right off the bat, I ran into wolf tracks. After hiking for the day, it looks like a pair of wolves came through two or three times. I saw old old, medium old, and fairly fresh. With no snow on the beach, I could find tracks in the areas that had loose sand and mud on the river bank, and in the braids and tidal backwaters. I had a few photos of tracks with my 50# Gordon Setters tracks right beside, for reference, but they won't load. I will have to find a way to reduce the size of the photo. Some photos work, and some don't. I'm not quite as savvy yet as JR or Bushman. Further up, we ran into snow. Deep snow in the river flats. Not so bad in the mature forest, but it varied. Believe it or not, the crusted snow was hard enough to support my #230 pounds most of the time, but there was some breaking through at times, which was exhausting - up to mid-thigh. BTW you guys in the know - what are the big huge trees on the flats? They are conifer, and covered with hanging moss. The are at the heads of all the bays and mature forest on the other side. Varying sizes. Pausing for a break on a frozen stream bed. Recon can be hard work. And overdressed - I was sweating a bit. My sidekick is Sam Elliott. Sammy for short. or "Sammy me boy." He's named after the actor. He was having a ball running around when I let him, but I was mostly careful. I didn't want him running into someones #330 unknowingly - so I kept him close. At one point, Sam got his long feathered tail caught up in a stem of devils club. I lost track of him, and looked back and there he was, stuck but good! I should have taken a picture but I didn't. He wasn't going anywhere. I wonder if that ever happens to wolves, coyotes, or fox?
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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01/27/19 06:25 PM
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Again, I have numerous photos of wolf tracks in the snow, of varying freshness, but this is the only one that will load up as is. I imagine I need to get into some software that will help me reduce the image size really quickly. Any recommendations guys? This particular spot, I would put a foot hold for sure. Foot hold is my weakness. I am much more of a snare man. But I do know that these wolves had been down this exact trail at least three times in the past month. They put their foot in the exact same spot on each side of that branch. Good spot for a foothold? Help me out if you want. I don't even currently own any, but am researching types, staking down chains versus setting up drags. I lean toward drags. I don't want them destroying the spot. I also saw numerous "neck down" areas where I was fairly "frothing at the mouth" to hang some wolf snares. I have done this with success with coyotes in MN. We have wolves there, but we cannot trap them because the anti's have won in the courts. Alaskans, don't ever let that happen here. Anyway, do you think I am excited to set? There wasn't time to set. This was all about scouting. So I headed back to the beach. If you're anything like me, you have learned through the school of hard knocks. This means you learned the do's and don'ts of mooring a boat. I won't lie, I've lost my boat a couple of times due to high winds and big currents. Today was one of those days. As the day progressed, I felt the wind coming up. It tends to do that, especially in the afternoon, and where there are glaciers nearby. Long thin bays with glaciers are especially prone - I have learned. Lake Tustemena is a great example. Anyway, I appeared on the beach, and saw my boat way the #### out there. Not where it was supposed to be. Apparently my new lid acted more like a sail. The anchor dragged across the flat until it went off into the deep water. Then the boat was free floating until it caught somewhere down wind. With a 2018 Suzuki 200 on the back, I wasn't particularly excited about my prospects downwind. Not to mention the boat hull. It became a race against time, but safety had to come first. Sam was very tired and well behaved. I lay him down in the pulk in the middle of the canoe, on some spare clothing for comfort. I told him to stay, and he didn't move. The water was rough, even whitecapping at times. I knew to go the short route across the deep was to risk my life. If I capsized, I'd be dead. No service, and no-one out there. So I followed the shore for the 3+ miles my boat had drifted. I mean right on the shore. I wasn't too worried about capsizing - cuz I've canoed thousands of miles in my life, and in worse conditions than this - so I'm not going to live in fear. Just going to be cautious. The hardest part was when I got against the cliffs, and there was waves bouncing back against me. No fun. And I imagine if I capsized there, that would have been a lot LESS fun. I was kneeling in the middle of the canoe, on an artificial right knee. Artificial knees, if they have a mind of their own, don't like that. Those of you who have one, know just what I mean. What I really couldn't believe is that after that big walk, and being likely a little dehydrated - I wasn't getting cramps in my thighs and hamstrings - cuz kneeling in the middle for over an hour is rather AWKWARD. It was like the mere thought of this caused it to happen. That's psychology for ya. Both legs cramped at once - and there I was, against a ledge with the backwash coming out, rocking around, trying to straighten my leg to get some relief. Sam looked up at me. Cormorants flew off the ledge. I'm sure glad he stayed! Past the ledge, I beached and got out and walked and crawled and climbed the past few hundred yards to the boat. I jumped in the canoe and paddled the short distance to the boat. Thankfully, it hung up in the rocks, and never bounced against the beach. So we are back to Homer, safe and sound, and rethinking our anchoring system - and considering using my raft and 15 horse kicker instead. Stuff like this doesn't deter me. I'm gonna learn from it, and do better. That's the journey called life.
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Re: WH Journal
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01/27/19 07:44 PM
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I would totally avoid the willow flats, and look for a place where the conifers are closer to the river. Better yet, the salt.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: broncoformudv]
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01/28/19 04:48 PM
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This was my fourth time in six years losing my boat. More than I care to admit. It's broke. Time to fix it. To expect different results doing the same stuff??? Sometimes I'm a slow learner, and it takes something like this to "wake me up." Well, I'm "so over it..." now (this is the way my daughter talks haha).
Having said that, I am out there ALOT. I have moored my boat with many, many successes. We get lured into thinking it is ok. Well - it's not ok, esp. in the winter. My legs and lower back are still trying to recover from 90 minutes of kneeling in a canoe without interruption, white-knuckling it. NO MORE!!! UNCLE!!!
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/09/19 12:20 AM
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Working on building my line.Setting some boundaries with work so i am able to get out at least three full days a week - which has been really good. It is slow going. Trying to set on sign, and sign is not abundant. Snow is gone, so it makes sign harder to find and read. Other things happen. I get sidetracked, and get a late start. We live on a hill, which can be glare ice - and I got the boat jack-knifed one am and it took me a couple hours to get unstuck. Heck - I even hit the guardrail one am on the way down the hill, on a switchback after a freezing rain - while pulling the boat. Got the boat stranded again too - just got excited, jumped out to look at some fresh tracks, and waited one minute too long with the tide going out. Lesson learned. Seems I am learning all kinds of lessons these days. Water taxi says he makes a living rescuing people like me. That made me feel better haha. No catching going on YET. But I feel I am tightening the noose. They just don't know it yet. What I DO have to share is a bunch of pictures. Hey - a Lynx came through. First Lynx track I have ever seen in my life. Looks like our Minnesota Boat - only bigger. Lynx appear to be pretty scarce on the peninsula. People say I should have been here six or seven years ago. Maybe this is a sign of things to come. Happiness is a new pile of snares. I've been getting boxes of treasure on a regular basis. It is costing me a small fortune! Working up a sweat - hiking a lot, hauling gear, hauling bait, scouting, working boat and canoe adjusting for big tides, and so on. It's good for me. The interesting things you discover in winter. I have driven by this half-buried cabin so many times, but have never seen it until I scouted the beach for a spot to put a wolverine cubby on the beach. The cabin is long since buried by landslide, caved in on the top and sides, and overgrown with Alders. But there is some critter sign around it, and perhaps I will catch something. The otter toilet I couldn't resist. I don't really care to catch them. Have done it plenty in MN, and I only have so many 330 conibear - BUT, when I saw this, I just couldn't resist. Seemed like a no-brainer. Perhaps an otter will be my first critter trapped in AK? Waiting for them to return. Trying to load several of my other photos, but they won't. It says the files are too large. I think it likes to do that with photos that have more detail. These are my wolverine cubby sets, and my snares that are set up in the brush. I have 8 wolverine cubbies now. Some are on the salt edge. Some are up the drainages a ways. Most are using natural areas - like holes in the bank, or root systems of spruce trees that are washed out. I have 9 wolf snares on spots that previously had wolf tracks - but they are melted off now. Waiting for them to return. Also have LOTS of coyote sign, and have been laying in some snares and footholds for them too. Some change would be good. A little cold or snow I'd appreciate. Too much snow, not so much. Hopefully will return soon with a catch. Heading out to check some sets, and make a few more - tomorrow. Just got some more treasure in the mail today. Two "NO BS WOLF TRAP", and two of JR's "ALASKA #9." Looking for the perfect place to give them a whirl.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/09/19 01:35 AM
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I might have figured out this picture resizing thing. I just used PIXLR. Lets see if this works. It wouldn't load previously, when all of my other photos did (iPhone photos). This is a wolverine set in a hollow tree root cubby on the beach. I really like this set. Just need mr. wolverine to come in the neighborhood. Baited with moose hide, and Gusto. Another wolverine cubby far up a drainage. This trail had fresh wolf tracks on it 2+ weeks ago when there was snow. I hung a bunch of snares on the trails they used, but they haven't returned. Same as above. A critter trail that had coyote tracks on it not long ago. waiting patiently. Who's gonna return, and whats gonna produce???
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/09/19 12:33 PM
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Your wolverine cubbies look good. Trap some beaver, if you can. My favorite bait.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/09/19 12:39 PM
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In the picture of you, the timbered slopes in the back-ground: do you have marten sets, just inside the tree line/beach fringe?
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: alaska viking]
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02/09/19 01:23 PM
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AV - I am told there are no marten here, by the local biologists, and local trappers too. Seems for some reason they stay up on the other side of Lake Tustamena - that's where the trappable population of Marten begins. Well, thats about 90 minutes from me. Someday, I will get me some Marten - even if I have to go remote for awhile. Anybody have input on this? It's like theres an invisible barrier or something.
My brother ives in central British Columbia. LOTS of Marten there. Some winter, I am going to go hang with him.
Beaver. My favorite bait in MN too. Very few beaver down by Homer. I literally have not see any sign, or a hut. Closest, again, is in the freshwater lakes up by Sterling.
So I've just been using moose carcass remains that the local troopers and wildlife biologist put me onto.
I've got sets along about 25+ miles of shoreline now, and some deeper back in. I just need something to come through this territory.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/09/19 01:28 PM
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HFT AK looks like this... Snares built by Rally Hess in MN. I am learning this whole deal. Gotta keep them away from the salt. And Bait. It really takes a system of being clean and organized.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/10/19 12:09 AM
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Those tree locks on the ends of Rally's should work just fine. I use the old Thompson tree locks on my 1/8” cable anchors for wolf and wolverine. Haven’t found anything better for the bitter end.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/10/19 01:10 AM
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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!! First Gulo, and Oh - what a feeling. You guys know how long I have been dreaming about this? Like, since reading Fur, Fish and Game back in the 1970's, and dreaming about coming to Alaska, but having to settle for catching what was available on our little Minnesota lake - like Muskrats, Mink, and Beaver. So yeah - over 40 years I've been thinking on this. It started with a bunch of wolverine cubbies along the salt, and up some of the drainages. I have 8 of them. Of all 8, this particular one was my least favorite. I dunno, it was out in the open at the base of a big draw with a trickle of water coming down. But I thought it was too close to another one that I have about a quarter of a mile away - and I was actually thinking about pulling the trap and putting it somewhere else. But it was a good natural spot. The wind had blown some very deep snow around a little patch of small spruce. The downwind side of the spruce patch was open, and a good natural approach for a wolverine. So I used a shovel and dug into the bank, and made a little cave. I filled it in with spruce bows. Inside - just a good sized piece of moose hide, and some gusto. On the open snow, I threw down a piece of moose hide, and I'm sure the crows shredded it and spread it all over. Some guts and rumen too. It looked like something big happened there. This is the set right after I made it about two weeks ago. Today, I hit the beach at low tide. I had two sets to check prior to this set. Nothing - so I just refreshed things, and moved on. Beached the boat with the tide turning in, and went hiking to this set. You really can't see it until you are right there. So, imagine my surprise when I got there, and looked down in the hole. First Gulo! Super good catch, right behind the skull, and a quick kill I'm sure. That right there is one happy man! Who would have thought I would be able to orient myself, scout, lay down some sets and catch a wolverine less than two weeks after making the set? Feeling pretty happy and blessed. There was no sign of struggle at all. I pulled the wolverine. Reset the trap. Refreshed everything, and YES, I will be leaving this set where it is! This is after the remake. The wolverine is a male. I'm wondering how much he weighs? But I'm also worried about my canoe - for I had left it for longer than I expected, and I could see that the incoming tide was reaching it. I hefted the wolverine over my shoulders, around my neck, and hiked back to the canoe at a very brisk rate. What the heck, I've waited for a wolverine for so long, might as well get acquainted with one up close and personal. Ok - since this is my first Gulo, I'm gonna make a big deal of it. I took a bunch of photos while I was enjoying examining him. Basking in the glow. He looks pretty big on the front of my canoe! And on the back of my boat. I got home around dusk. Wrapped the wolverine around my neck again, and rang the doorbell. When my wife answered the door, she and the three dogs went bananas. The dogs did the same thing they do when I come home with a bear. We call it the "bear bark." It's a mixture of fear and panic and alarm. Pretty funny. My wife took this shot, and then I weighed the wolverine at 31 pounds. Planning to do a full size mount for our home. Got any recommendations on who/where? I've got good taxidermist in MN, but I don't want to bring it back and forth. Need a good taxidermist here in AK. I'm giving some kudos to Alaska Viking. I have watched his posts closely. He offered me a couple tips on PM. It's not likely I would have made this set where I did without his influence. So Thanks AV!!! Also to Andrew Stanley aka "The Wild North" on Youtube. My cubbies are tailored after his. I have watched every video he has made for years and years. Quite a character, that Andrew, and if you haven't checked out his trapping exploits on youtube, you are missing out. As if that weren't enough, I had just enough daylight left to check a wolf bait. Nothing too special. I just went to an area where I had seen some wolf tracks a couple of weeks ago. I have a moose head, and I wired it to a spruce tree in a good dense thicket. Well, it looks like a whole herd of wolves came in. Ok, that's an exaggeration. But a pack of 5-10 have hung around for at least two days. When I put in the bait - I didn't lay in any traps. I wasn't sure if they would even come. And if they did, I wanted them to get good and comfortable and conditioned. Well, they showed me where I can hang several dozen snares, as well as the leg holds that I have. I REALLY wanted to set some tonight, but with daylight fading, and smelling like Wolverine and Gusto - I figured it smarter to regroup. So, tomorrow I set for wolves as much as I can. And who knows, maybe I will get one of those rascals too, before I'm done.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/10/19 04:47 AM
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Way to go! Me and my trapping partner caught our first two last year. Great feeling.
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02/10/19 12:36 PM
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Way to go!!! That is a fine, fine wolverine! There are a few trappers on this site that helped and encouraged me on my first, and am forever grateful. Now I will share another gem, one of many I got from mad_mike: keep setting. There are more! Again, well done!
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02/10/19 02:04 PM
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Nice work and congratulations on your first wolverine.
Alaskan #9 Trap Company JR Pederson PO BOX 58226 Fairbanks AK 99711 cell# 907-378-7291 pedersonjr@yahoo.com
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02/10/19 03:08 PM
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Congrats, way to have a goal and accomplish it without stepping on others toes. You should be very proud! Ken is correct, where you catch one you will most likely catch others. We have one spot on our line where we stashed bait one year for the next weekend. Came up next weekend and wolverine had been there, set it up and caught, and in years since we have taken 6 or 7 at this same spot.
I survived the Tman crash of '06
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: white17]
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02/11/19 12:41 PM
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[quote=white17]That's great !! Congratulations ! Here's one more 'tip'. I have found over the years that where you catch one, you can likely catch others year after year.
Best AK taxi that I know of is Aurora Wildlife Arts. Not sure if he has retired or not. But I would sure consider Taximan on this forum. Beautiful work ![/quote
Is Aurora Wildlife Arts and Taximan one in the same, or two different entities? I looked up Aurora last night. No website. He has a Facebook page, but no photos. Doesn't seem to advertise. Perhaps he's as busy as he wants to be, or like you say, retired. I will have to call.
I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with this guy. I like the idea of a full body mount. He is a cool specimen - but very dark. Not the light brown/orange diamond back that seems to be so highly coveted - but whatever the case, he is my first, and he's gonna be something special to remember.
Some of the guys I researched last night were getting upwards of 2K for a full body mount. Geez - this ain't a bear! I can remember when bears were under a grand.
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02/11/19 01:26 PM
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Nice job! There is nothing like the first one
We get out of life only as much as we really want and work hard enough to achieve
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02/11/19 03:34 PM
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[quote=white17]That's great !! Congratulations ! Here's one more 'tip'. I have found over the years that where you catch one, you can likely catch others year after year.
Best AK taxi that I know of is Aurora Wildlife Arts. Not sure if he has retired or not. But I would sure consider Taximan on this forum. Beautiful work ![/quote
Is Aurora Wildlife Arts and Taximan one in the same, or two different entities? I looked up Aurora last night. No website. He has a Facebook page, but no photos. Doesn't seem to advertise. Perhaps he's as busy as he wants to be, or like you say, retired. I will have to call.
I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with this guy. I like the idea of a full body mount. He is a cool specimen - but very dark. Not the light brown/orange diamond back that seems to be so highly coveted - but whatever the case, he is my first, and he's gonna be something special to remember.
Some of the guys I researched last night were getting upwards of 2K for a full body mount. Geez - this ain't a bear! I can remember when bears were under a grand. Not the same. Taximan is on the forum. You can PM him. He is in Montana. Aurora is in Anchorage. Joe Romero is his name
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Re: WH Journal
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02/11/19 05:03 PM
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Wolves. They have come into my trapping area. They seem to do so about every two weeks - which says they have a pretty big area they are traveling in a circuit. Snow has come and gone, and what is left is very hard crusted. It makes for difficult tracking - but when the wolves hit the sandbars that occur here and there on the beaches (as opposed to rocks or gravel) then they become much more easy to follow, and predict. So yesterday, based on the most recent "pass through", I hung 43 snares. We will keep an eye on things, and hopefully when they come back, I will score. Got the wolverine already. Next on the list is the big bad wolf! I worked feverishly yesterday - to the point that I didn't realize my own pain until I got home and had time to try and unwind and relax. My fingernails hurt like I had hit them with a hammer. Especially my middle finger and pinkie finger. Must have something to do with all the plier use, and twisting. My right knee (artificial) had a big old lump underneath the kneecap - super irritated and inflamed (those of you with artificial knees know that they don't like being kneeled down on), but I kneel in an effort to save my low back, which is fused - but inadvertently, after a long day of setting snares, the low back is going to pay for it anyway. Good thing I have a good wife who rubs me down with essential oils and cannabis oil, gives massages, etc. And, the hot tub with whirlpool is a Godsend after days like this. 8 foot seas forecast for the next couple of days - which will keep me homebound. Hopefully the next time you see me post, it will be with my first wolf catch. Hey I'm wondering - is there a point in the late winter/spring where wolf fur becomes undesirable? If that is coming soon, I guess I better get a move on. But I am wondering when I should be planning to pull out - generally speaking.
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02/11/19 06:15 PM
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Congrats on the dark gulo. Sure didn’t take you very long.
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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02/11/19 10:16 PM
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Congrats on your wolverine, I know how I felt with my first fisher, just a great rush. Great sense of accomplishment.
My heart belongs to my family. My body belongs to my work. My soul belongs to the woods.
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02/11/19 10:25 PM
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You are making all the right moves, wolverine hunter. Keep doing what you are doing. This game isn't easy, but very rewarding, when things come together. There some excellent wolf trappers here. I am NOT one of them. Don't be shy asking for thoughts and help. You are one of the few that is actually following through, so assistance will be available.
Just doing what I want now.
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[Re: alaska viking]
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02/12/19 12:27 AM
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You are making all the right moves, wolverine hunter. Keep doing what you are doing. This game isn't easy, but very rewarding, when things come together. There some excellent wolf trappers here. I am NOT one of them. Don't be shy asking for thoughts and help. You are one of the few that is actually following through, so assistance will be available. I got a few guys that are helping me a lot in PM's. I really appreciate it! Wish I could trap all day every day - but I gotta work a little bit to support my habit. And, my body needs a day of rest in-between. My body never could keep up with whats in my head, or my level of desire for that matter.
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02/12/19 12:50 AM
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Off the top of my head I’d say 60% of wolverine have the usual coloration. 20% will be dark and the remaining 20% would be either pale crowned or pale altogether. There’s a lot of similar coloured wolverine around. It’s the dark ones and the ones with really white crowns that are less common. Different areas will vary though. I like them all but it’s the dark ones I like the most. Lots of nice colour variations with wolverine.
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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02/12/19 12:53 AM
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Ryan McLeod
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Could be just my tired eyes but the Claws look bigger than average to me especially in the boat and canoe pictures. Anybody else notice?
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If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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02/12/19 09:35 PM
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So what do you do on a day when you are homebound? Then the weather is too crappy or too unsafe to trap? You work on a new fur display! You reminisce and enjoy past catches. You put them in a place where they can be shared and enjoyed by others. On board we have: Arctic Fox, Mink, River Otter, Raccoon, Gray Fox, Beaver, Bobcat, Red Fox, Coyote, and even a Coatimundi. The only one I didn't catch was the Artic Fox that my wife bought somewhere previously. The Coati came from southern Arizona. The rest - from MN. I still have room for a wolverine, pine marten, wolf, and lynx - the "big four" I hope to get in Alaska sooner than later. Found the hardware on thekingsbay.com
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02/12/19 10:21 PM
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Have to go elsewhere for a "pine" marten.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Posco]
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02/13/19 01:04 AM
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Awesome! That was lightning fast. I like to strike fast when I can. Tomorrow is not promised to me... :-) I have been working HARD since we last spoke though...
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02/13/19 11:24 AM
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Awesome! That was lightning fast. I like to strike fast when I can. Tomorrow is not promised to me... :-) I have been working HARD since we last spoke though... I see that and keep me filled in. Can't tell you how happy I am for you. Awesome!
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: alaska viking]
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02/13/19 12:40 PM
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Have to go elsewhere for a "pine" marten. Yup - I would drive up the road a bit for one of those! By the time I make my whole boat tour - driving the truck two or three hours wouldn't be that much different. And it would be a whole lot warmer! My brother has a ton of them in BC. And I suppose I could get one in Northern MN. We have a few. The DNR lets you catch two per season - up in the arrowhead country of MN. That is, IF Minnesota ever changes the law so a non-resident can trap. I had to give that up when I came here to AK. Anyway - it is on the "to do" list, and it's nice to have options. I kind of like the idea of hanging with my brother for a few weeks in BC some winter soon. It shouldn't be too hard to get a bunch. Last time I was there, we went for a hike, and I was rather astounded by all the tracks!
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Ryan McLeod]
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02/13/19 12:44 PM
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Off the top of my head I’d say 60% of wolverine have the usual coloration. 20% will be dark and the remaining 20% would be either pale crowned or pale altogether. There’s a lot of similar coloured wolverine around. It’s the dark ones and the ones with really white crowns that are less common. Different areas will vary though. I like them all but it’s the dark ones I like the most. Lots of nice colour variations with wolverine. Ryan now you got me all jacked up about the different color varieties and the uniqueness amongst them. I was willing to catch one and then go focus on wolves - but now you got me wanting another wolverine ASAP - just to see what I can catch!
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[Re: Bushman]
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02/13/19 11:16 PM
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[quote=Bushman]It's great to see your enthusiasm Wolverine Hunter, and it looks like you picked a good handle for yourself. AV - There's no Vikings in Alaska either and we don't give you a hard time! [/quote I guess I don't know him well enough yet to give it right back, but I'm getting there. American Marten. European Marten. Pine Marten (Hey - I'm from MN so cut me some slack). They all trap the same, don't they? After I get my wolf, I'm going to get a Brown Bear and an Interior Grizzly too :-) Hows that for proper...
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02/14/19 12:08 AM
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[quote=Bushman]It's great to see your enthusiasm Wolverine Hunter, and it looks like you picked a good handle for yourself. AV - There's no Vikings in Alaska either and we don't give you a hard time! [/quote I guess I don't know him well enough yet to give it right back, but I'm getting there. American Marten. European Marten. Pine Marten (Hey - I'm from MN so cut me some slack). They all trap the same, don't they? After I get my wolf, I'm going to get a Brown Bear and an Interior Grizzly too :-) Hows that for proper... Yep go get your bucket list!
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02/14/19 10:46 PM
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Today, like so many days - I got kicked in the nuts, and the teeth. Different people have said this is hard work. No kidding! I've waited four days to get back on the line, because the seas have been treacherous. Ten footers. Eight footers. Six footers. It has slowly been tapering. My next day off was today. I got up for an early start. I was backing my boat around a corner, and didn't know it, but one of our renters had parked in an unusual spot. I put my kicker motor right through his drivers side rear window. That's how it began. Next, I met up with a state trooper. My trailer lights weren't working, and I knew it. But I went anyway. She was kind and graceful; we have talked a time or two about moose remains :-) But it was a little embarrassing, and a time setback. Now the pressure is on to get it fixed; if I get stopped again, I can expect a ticket. This is my deal. I DONT procrastinate trapping. I DO procrastinate mechanical type maintenance. The seas were supposed to be two footers. Well, that was a lie. NDBC usually is better than that, but not this time. It was howling from the east, but I was being tenacious, and I went anyway. I'd say good 5 footers. Many times, when you go across and get into the bays, things are much more calm, but this wasn't one of those days. It was more the kind of day that, no matter where you go, the wind is kicking like it's a wind tunnel. I began part of one line, but was forced to quit. I wasn't about to anchor my boat in whitecaps while I climbed into a dingy to go to shore. I moved onto the second part of my line - but I looked down the bay with binoculars and saw the whole bay stacked with "dust devils" that were water particles, blown up into the air, swirled about, and instantly frozen. Regretfully, I turned away. Getting back across the bay was perhaps some of the worst all around conditions I have been out in. I mean, I have been in bigger waves, but they weren't spraying up and encrusting my boat with instant ice like it was this morning. What was strange was going into four footers with a good 20mph straight line wind. Then up ahead, five and six footers stacked up one on the other, and with too short of a period to take on head on (not wanting to take one over the bow), so it was a bit of white-knuckling at times, making my way across. I never doubted I could do it. It just was zero fun. So I came home a little dejected, but not defeated. Those of you that have read my journal, know that I don't quit. Nothing is going to stop me. So the traps will just have to soak until Saturday. We will live to fight another day. I was up half the night, too excited to sleep, thinking about what might be in my traps, and the work I had to do. So when I got back, I took a hot shower and went right to sleep. NOW it appears to be calming down, but not enough daylight to do anything about it. Who knows, my wolf might be over there? You other wolves, keep your dam paws and teeth off my wolf!!! Or better yet, why don't you ALL just walk through a snare
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[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/15/19 12:39 AM
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white17
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It's good to be determined but it's even better to use common sense. You're doing well so far. Don't let impatience cloud your judgment. Apply the lessons of the old bull and the young bull standing on the hilltop............... If you haven't read the book Cheechako, by Wayne Short............pick up a copy. Your mention of spray turning to ice prompts that suggestion.
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02/15/19 12:50 PM
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alaska viking
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You will have to learn patience when trapping out of a boat. I operate out of a 17' open skiff in water that is notorious for it's violence. Every winter there are stretches of weather, (sometimes 10 days), that I am shut out by 10'-13' seas and heavy freezing spray. I have gotten better at avoiding the worst, but still get pounded now and then. The smart mariner lives to sail another day.
Just doing what I want now.
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02/15/19 02:15 PM
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I shudder to think of some of the boating I did as a kid. Frozen spray on clothing, concerned parents calling the Coast Guard, hypothermic friends, gas tanks floating OUT of an underway skiff that was basically awash, running up on the beach in gear, dumping gas on driftwood, standing in the flames trying to keep from freezing only to have to wade out to your crotch to relaunch the skiff, friend crouching in the bow with a bucket waiting for the wave to wash over me and the stern so he could jump aft and bail like crazy before the next one hit, all to maybe get a mink or otter. It was fun being an immortal teenager. The water is a dangerous place on the nicest of days. When In Doubt, Chicken Out
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Re: WH Journal
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02/15/19 02:25 PM
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Yes, tree, you have indeed been there, and know too well the perils. How are the new digs?
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/15/19 05:42 PM
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Thanks all for your suggestions. Sometimes I get hung up between the necessity of checking traps (feeling responsible for the critters, and for obeying the laws, etc) and get focused on THAT, along with my excitement to check, instead of safety.
I will definitely be thinking about this differently in the future. Like - yesterday was dangerous, but also a big fat waste of time and expense. Next time, I will check the weather and the tides - but if I drive down and it doesn't match the predictions - I will just bag it.
Worst that can happen is that a wolf eats my wolf, or a wolf eats my second wolverine (And that can happen on the first day or the second day or the fifth day). Or, a critter gets caught in a trap for longer than I'd like (and this can happen even in a conibear or a snare too).
Maybe I will have to accept that I can't use leg holds (which I am using almost ZERO right now anyway) . But no matter what, I have to accept that these things that are "less than ideal" DO happen occasionally. Irregardless, My life is more important.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/15/19 08:15 PM
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And with conibears, your catch will be frozen.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/15/19 10:53 PM
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Thanks all for your suggestions. Sometimes I get hung up between the necessity of checking traps (feeling responsible for the critters, and for obeying the laws, etc) and get focused on THAT, along with my excitement to check, instead of safety.
I will definitely be thinking about this differently in the future. Like - yesterday was dangerous, but also a big fat waste of time and expense. Next time, I will check the weather and the tides - but if I drive down and it doesn't match the predictions - I will just bag it.
Worst that can happen is that a wolf eats my wolf, or a wolf eats my second wolverine (And that can happen on the first day or the second day or the fifth day). Or, a critter gets caught in a trap for longer than I'd like (and this can happen even in a conibear or a snare too).
Maybe I will have to accept that I can't use leg holds (which I am using almost ZERO right now anyway) . But no matter what, I have to accept that these things that are "less than ideal" DO happen occasionally. Irregardless, My life is more important. It is always best to obey the laws but as far as I am aware ( and that leaves room for interpretation) there is no trap check law anywhere in Alaska. It is that way for the very reason we are talking about. Personal safety. Do not risk your neck to check your traps...............any more than normal
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: alaska viking]
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02/15/19 11:55 PM
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And with conibears, your catch will be frozen. AV - just out of curiosity - have you (or others) ever caught a wolverine in a conibear, and still had it be alive? I have caught both beaver and otter by the feet, and by the tail. Sometimes I wonder how the heck they get themselves into that predicament, but they do. Slow trap. Or, they back in. Or, they are feeling their way. Or, have a stick in their hand and such. So it makes me wonder about wolverines... I obviously don't have the experience to know.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/16/19 01:43 AM
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All that said, I am learning by making rookie mistakes, and surviving. I am trying to make fewer and fewer as I go. I am "Minnesota Bush Savvy", I'd say. SO FAR it has gotten me by up here - though I've been in a few sticky situations over the past six seasons - that's for sure. Perhaps one day when I am really bored, I will tell those tales. But not yet...
Morning comes soon, and another opportunity to check the line. Though colder, the forecast looks better regarding wind. I'm behind in what I want to do, and don't think I can get it all done tomorrow. But perhaps one good chunk of my line, and we will go from there.
Daylight is getting longer. There are more minutes of daylight for work, I've noticed. This is good....
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/16/19 02:16 PM
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Bushman
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As long as you keep surviving WH that's what matters. But sometimes your first mistake in a situation can be your last.
Several years ago we were out on a pack trip on the Continental divide. Great time, but as we were heading back the weather changed and the skies opened up. In this country crossing creeks and rivers is mandatory as the only access is through their valleys. So you cross them 20 - 30 times in a day in some spots. The trail boss, in this case, was a 68-year-old mountain man and his sidekick was an 82-year-old local aboriginal guide. After day two the boss told us at breakfast that things weren't looking good and he and Tommy thought it would be a good idea if we holed up for a while.
We made a quick camp move to a pine flat located several terraces up from the river. Tarps went up, dry wood was cut and stacked, horses put under heavy conifer cover, and a rainwater salvage tarp set up so we had clean water. And we waited. It rained 4 days pretty much steady, and then took 2 days to drop enough to travel. We played cards and drank coffee and told stories ( that was reason enough for me to stay, these guys were the real deal) then we went home.
Three sheep hunters in the same storm. Got caught in heavy snow in the high country, broke their way back to treeline and down to trail to the first crossing. One of the guys insisted they make for grande cache as he had business commitments. He didn't make it across and he and his horse drowned. Now his grieving and totally shocked buddies had to camp and wait just like us. But I guarantee you the mood in that camp wasn't the same and it would better if this story didn't exist.
What kills men is Ego.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/16/19 09:20 PM
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alaska viking
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I also lost one. 2 of us survived. Skiff hunt gone bad. Had we waited just a couple hours, might have made a difference. The ocean doesn't care.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: alaska viking]
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02/16/19 09:49 PM
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I also lost one. 2 of us survived. Skiff hunt gone bad. Had we waited just a couple hours, might have made a difference. The ocean doesn't care. Been on the water a bunch of times with this guy. His last sentence..... I am the one who tends to push the weather envelope. Not to the point of outright disregard, but you have to know what you are doing. There is a fine line between being uncomfortable and unsafe.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/17/19 04:46 PM
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I use to push the envelope a lot coming down the river and crossing the bay running in a open 18’ lund in 5-6’ seas not anymore the last time almost got me and it was blowing so hard turning around or even turning in to a creek channel would have been suicide I was scarred and not so much for me but my son who was a new father at the time now days work or anything else just has to wait . Same with the snow machine I just don’t push the envelope as much as I use to wisdom comes with the aches and pains of age
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/17/19 05:20 PM
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Appreciate so much the wisdom of discernment and common sense from the ones who know and are experienced .
" What kills men is Ego ." Bushman summed it up.
"I DO procrastinate mechanical type maintenance "......is a line that was intolerable for my father . He wouldn't even let anyone in his planes or on his trawlers who proudly clung to such mindset . As one who also experienced the worst of natural elements and manmade ones , WW2 fighter pilot, aircraft builder, stunt pilot, crop duster, ship captain , when he spoke, wise men learning from him really listened.
Stories as examples, not told in a bragging spirit, but shared with human concern so as to live life smart, and be refined , to help others, in turn.
Thank you, for your shared examples and wisdom , to preserve life.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/17/19 06:20 PM
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Yesterday brought a whole new wrinkle to my trapline. The bay I am trapping in is FROZEN. I paused to take some video of a dozen or more harbor seals laying on the edge of the ice pack. That tells you how thick. But it did vary - and I choose areas where it was thinner. I busted ice for upwards of two miles. Boat seemed to be handling it fine. It varied from slush to thin to four inches thick. I pushed into three different area to check wolverine sets. I had one moment of excitement where I saw something was different. It's a milk crate set - and when it went off, it really blew up the cubby. I was hoping for fur, but false alarm. No evidence of anything - except weasel and mink tracks - probably the culprit. The big part of my wolf line is up a draw - so I "busted a trail" all the way in and out of the bay, at high tide. Then went out to 20 feet, circled to break up the ice, and anchored the boat in 20 feet of water. I thought there was likely cause for concern - simply because I had never done this before and didn't know quite what to expect, but I figured I would deal with any trouble when I got back - as I planned to be away working for several hours. I followed the broken ice boat trail to the shore in my canoe. It wasn't easy. The wind and the tides cause the trail to "close right up" like a stitched up wound, and I broke a canoe paddle just trying to push myself along. I eventually got there, all sweated up. I checked all my wolf snares (43 of them). The wolves had not been back, so I set about laying in the last 20 wolf snares that I own. Adjusting things a bit. And, I put in these really cool water sets. There is a spruce tree that fell across a fresh water stream, in shallow water. It is staying open because of water movement. FAMILY TRAPPER Len and I have been talking about water sets. He has been strongly urging me to put the leg hold traps there - so I did, and yes, if I catch, Len gets a great big huge assist! I hollowed out two entrances - one from each side of the trunk - then blocked off the rest of the surrounding area, while trying to minimize impact. I wired a moose head into the spot. By the neck, and by the jaw. The wolves were pretty interested in this last time they were here. They ate 1/2 of the skull and neck. Polished it clean. Surprisingly, they left without finishing, and I wonder if they were actually on it when I arrived last week? The tracks and sign looked THAT fresh. Anyway, I set a MB 750 with ten feet of chain and a drag - which Minnesota Trapping Products calls "The Jack Rig" - but instead of using the drag, I wired it in hard to the trunk of the spruce, which sits up above the set about four feet. I dished out an area in the stream bed for each trap, removed most of the bigger rock and pebbles, and filled it in with some very fine sand/mud - which made a good trap bed. Then I covered it in fine silt. If you look closely, you can see the trap pan in each photo. But what you are looking at is my first attempt at Leghold for wolf. I keep reading that everyone is having trouble with the freeze/thaw cycle around here , and having traps keep working consistently. Well, this should stay working! All I need is wolves, and they are due back in about 7-14 days. After I finished these sets, I looked at my cell phone, and it was 4:00. I figured my work was about finished - and it might be good to give myself a couple hours of daylight to compensate for any trouble with the boat - so I headed back. Well, there was my boat - high and dry, and in an area other than where I had left it moored. You see, the wind came up, and the tide went out, and it shifted my boat from 20 feet, over to the east far enough to leave it in ten feet. Then it beached. I arrived at about 5 pm. Low tide was 6:15. And, it took till about 8:45 to "float my boat." During this time, I hiked to a waterfall and got rehydrated. Hiked up and down the beach in the dark. Did some jumping jacks. Changed some damp clothes. But, like a "watched pot that never boils" - this was about the slowest tide that I have ever seen. I still had to break ice for over a half mile - just to get back out to open water. Then, the long haul home. NDBC forecast two footers in the pm. LIE. I've watched the water like a hawk. You can't have a 20 mph wind coming from the East, all the way down the pipe that is Kachemak Bay, and expect to have two footers. They were more like 4 or 5. And I was going right into the teeth. But I could see what I was doing by the light of the moon. I took my time. A hot bath, and snuggling with my wife sounded a lot better than holing up in some state forest cabin when I didn't go prepared for that. So it would seem that you men that run traplines with snowmobiles have your "nemesis." That is river flowages and deep snow. You get stuck. You get barriers. You get "locked out" at times. You have breakdowns. For me, it is always about the boat. Is the boat where it is supposed to be? The wind, the currents, and the tide swings can drive a guy nuts - but I am learning. And now, we enter a new variable. ICE. Ice that floats. Sinks. And moves like a tectonic plate. What I really need is a warm spell (not that it has been that cold) - but enough to thaw and push out that which is stuck in there. Otherwise, I'm going to be locked out for awhile.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/17/19 06:38 PM
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I'd like to check the "other line" today, but after yesterday, and knowing that the wind is still cooking from the east, I am going to listen to wisdom coming from all directions, and have a "down day."
My spine has been compressed from all the banging in the boat yesterday. I think I need a new seat/pedestal after that run.
My wife seemingly came right out of menopause. You think she was scared when I didn't return home "on time" - whatever that is here in AK? Crazy to think she was that fearful, but I gotta think of a way to do better.
I need a good electronic device to be able to send her a message from remote places - so she knows what is going on. Like, no big deal honey. I'm just waiting for my boat to float, that's all! I will be home at ten.
What do you guys use to communicate from remote areas?
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/17/19 06:49 PM
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As long as I am being thoughtful and introspective here... another thought...
I am well connected in MN. I have men that are closer than brothers. We spend loads of time together - hunting and fishing and exploring. I am spoiled that way.
Thus far - as I think about my six seasons in Alaska, I have been rather disconnected and isolated - and it has grated on me. I work hard in the summer. All day, every day - doing tours of the bay, mostly taking guests out who are staying at our B and B. It is generally the rule that I am out working on the sea, but when I am not - there is ALWAYS work to do at the B and B. Lawn mowing. Painting. Staining. Repairs. It never ends. So - summers leave me zero opportunity for meeting and making friendships with like minded men - as I have in MN. This is perhaps one of the things that I miss the most. That, and my four year old granddaughter.
I feel that the isolation part is changing now. I have much more leisure time. I am spending more time socializing. And, I am so happy to report that - since I began posting on T-man not that long ago, several guys have stepped up to show an interest, to "come alongside" me in my trapping endeavors, and I feel like I am making new friends. Thanks to those who have.
The thing is, I spend the vast majority of my time out there, alone. There is no one else to rely on, but me. And, since I am alone - there is no other input, either. What I decide is what happens. And if I get myself into trouble, I am the only way I'm gonna get out.
Like, what Bushman suggested - I could use another experienced man or two to lean on for advice, and, if we get so we have to "hole up", then I got someone to play crib with. Another point of view might help me to balance.
This is part of my new purpose here on the KP. To get connected like that.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: HFT AK]
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02/17/19 06:53 PM
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Good to see you made it back safe and sound. Hope you connect!!!
Yes - I'm not that experienced. Like, I've never caught a wolf, and since I got my first wolverine now - just a week ago, getting a wolf is the "next big thing." But based on what everyone else is saying, and based on the sign I've seen, and what the wolves are doing when they DO come through, I am feeling SUPER hopeful. When they come back, they could be in some big, big trouble. I'd be ecstatic with one, but if a bunch show up and spend some time milling about like they have been.... well, that's what I'm dreaming of - I'm not gonna lie. I've got a bloated, spoiled moose I'm feeding them. Here's hoping they show up and stay - permanently. There's not much I'd rather do right now than spend a day packing wolves out of the bush haha! But by the looks of the weather forecast, it doesn't look like the sea will allow me to check for at least five days - esp. if I am listening to the advice of the wise sages on here.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: HFT AK]
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02/18/19 02:08 PM
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I always have a cut off time. If I know I am going to back around 6pm I will tell the wife the cut off is midnight and to call the troopers if I am not back. I put a couple of buddies of mine ashore after we developed some boat troubles. The plan was for me to limp the boat to a landing and for them to hike out and meet me there. I got the boat repaired and went back looking for them. I scoured the lakeshore and river looking but couldn't find them. After several hours I was beginning to panic, especially after I realized I had dropped them on an island in the river and saw no way for them to get off. I thought for sure they must have drowned trying to get off. They were friends, but also coworkers so I called my boss to give him a heads up on the situation. I also called the troopers. They told me they couldn't do anything for a minimum of 48 hours and to call if they hadn't showed up. I was sweating bullets thinking I had put my friends in a position that had cost them their lives. Forty-eight hours finally passed and I alerted the troopers. They immediately launched a search team, air and ground. They had no sooner gotten underway when a trooper came upon a couple of guys who had just popped out of the bush and onto the road. It took those guys two days to hike out of that hellhole. Scratched and bruised but none the worse for wear.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: white17]
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02/18/19 03:24 PM
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Ya been laying low. Arm chair trapper these days. Fun to be able to help WH with a few things. Thought I better check out his journal. Is that really Len or just some Russian bot ?? Ya been laying low. Arm chair trapper these days. Fun to be able to help WH with a few things. Thought I better check out his journal.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/18/19 04:01 PM
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On those water sets i woud use some small rocks to guide their feet..... and i cannot use exposed bait here in SE or i would catch birds...i build a rock pile and set around that. Subtle guiding for wolves is OK, the cinder block set comes to mind. I carry an inreach paired to my phone. Its about $10 month Also, i would personally not be using a canoe, for your go to shore boat...they tip more easily than an inflatable, and imo are lake craft only...we lost a local trapper this last Dec as he was going to his skiff in a canoe. I carry a vhf and use a float coat when going to and from my skiff in southeast. You gotta always be prepared....i carry a small drybag with jetboil food and some dry clothes, firestarter, etc. Prepare for the worst and use your head, and you will live your dream and catch fur. Even Jeremiah johnson learned the hard way.....be safe. I also have a glicose need as a type 1, 38 yo) ..so i have to pack food, carbs, sugar.
Im jealous of your wolverine success, congrats. Maybe i will catch one someday On those wolves , dont overthink it..Kiss
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/19/19 06:54 PM
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alaska viking
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31# is a good animal! Understand that a 35-40 pounder is very un-usual
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Just doing what I want now.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/19/19 07:10 PM
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And whatever you do don’t catch any really big ones. Nobody will believe you.
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: alaska viking]
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02/19/19 08:06 PM
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31# is a good animal! Understand that a 35-40 pounder is very un-usual
I think I get that. I just thought it was remarkable that he was so skinny. I expected a more rolly polly gut.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Ryan McLeod]
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02/19/19 08:07 PM
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And whatever you do don’t catch any really big ones. Nobody will believe you. That is why I am going to have Family Trapper verify for me when I do haha. Seems somebody got a 41# on here though, and is getting pretty positive comments. I got no reason to question anybody. I'm just learning!
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/19/19 08:55 PM
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Read the 41# thread, again. That will explain a lot.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: WH Journal
[Re: Wolverine Hunter]
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02/22/19 12:57 PM
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Well here we go. I am off for a check. I have been "locked out" of my line in forever, it seems, because of wind mostly - but some ice too, and a part time job. Yesterday was fantastic weather, but I had to work part of the day. Family Trapper helped me make some snares yesterday pm - which is much appreciated. Fun to learn and have a like-minded pal here in Homer. Thanks Len!
One appointment this am, and then it is off to spend the day on the edge of the wilderness. And things look good with the weather. Whatever I don't get done today, I can do tomorrow.
Send some good thoughts and good karma my way. I'd love a second wolverine SOON as the season is almost over. But a wolf would be the coolest! It would be my first. They are due back through anytime now...
Good luck to the rest of you as well!
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02/23/19 02:37 PM
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I managed to get through my whole line yesterday. It had a couple of surprises. If coyotes were my primary quarry, I would be really excited - for their traps were everywhere. I had a couple of near misses - but I don't even have a dozen coyote snares out. The ones I do have, I pulled. In the next week I plan to simplify things down, so I just have one primary wolf area. Most of my wolverine cubbies had been visited by coyotes. They haven't been doing this for the past month, but all of the sudden got really curious, or really hungry, or really careless. I imagine if I put in a pile of snares around my wolverine cubbies, I would score big time, but the wolverine cubbies are coming out by next week - so not much sense in doing it at this point. Next season. This coyote got in a little to close. I have heard of other trappers catching a coyote in a 330, but this is my first. Yes, he was still alive. Laying there with his ears up. Mangy and extremely poor fur. The bait was inches from its nose and it couldn't reach it. Poor little bugger. Well I ended it for him and that's that. Too much coyote vermin with mange. This is the same set I caught the wolverine in a couple of weeks ago. This spot, I will keep.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/23/19 02:57 PM
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A lone wolf came into my area - where I have a bait, and a concentration of about 60 snares. He appeared to be very careful - the way he managed to avoid the snares I had up, and chose his way in through larger gaps in the timber. I had the bait wired to a tree, but he managed to get a piece of it loose, and drug it back into the brush - where he polished it off. Hunted that area a bit, and then left. I tracked him through the brush for a couple hundred yards. Hung a handful of snares along the way. Then came across this spot. Lots of tracks in one little area. Pretty fresh. But no sign of a pee post. And I have been here numerous times this winter and no wolf sign. He came out of the brush into this opening, made a pile of tracks, then went back in where he came from. It would be pretty random, but I wish I had a good foothold there. Hey wolf trappers, is this worth setting now? Without any evidence of pee, I'm not sure if anything will return, but I don't know? It was a long day, and I had time to refresh the bait and wire it down, and bulk up my snares a little more, and then had to get out of there before dark. Par for the course, the wind was howling out the Northeast, and I came home in 4-6 footers in the dark (two footers were forecast). My back is sick and tired of the spinal compressions. Riding up the crest of a wave, and then slamming down in the next trough. I will be in the market for a new seat and pedestal - and am open to suggestions on what you've got that you like. Took a spill in the rocks yesterday and went down hard. My left wrist was broken coming into this, and is still healing ( I just got the cast off six weeks ago). The right wrist is now sprained and doesn't want to flex or extend. My left knee has a big old knob on it. This trapping is really hard work! And the ocean trapping is really complicating it, I'm finding. Looking back on how hard I have worked, and the price I have had to pay - in more ways than one, I'm not sure that I will trap this way next season. I'm currently researching a snow machine - but that is a subject for another day. Today is a down day to recuperate and get myself in shape for the next check and pull.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/23/19 03:59 PM
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Trapping salt isn't for everyone, and obviously can be dangerous. That said, snow machine lines will certainly bring a whole new set of challenges!
Just doing what I want now.
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02/23/19 04:00 PM
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Good to hear you made it back in safe and sound! Sorry to hear you got beat up though. Try and remember where those yotes came in at to check your cubbies for next year and drop a few snares. I normally put up some blocking around all my marten sets and hang snares, picked up many yotes that away and with this market it is descent money. Just remember to anchor for the largest critter you could possibly catch. I once picked one up in a 220, go figure Those otter are pretty curious critters, had one check out a kitty set week before last. I have never had anything touch an otter, even ones setting in the wide open, which is kinda surprising, any other critter the least the birds would have pecked it. Always frustrating when a critter walks into the death zone of snares and misses them! But makes it sweet when you do connect with them Normally they will follow the same track in especially if it is a bait, hope you dropped a snare or two on that trail. Your getting fur and having fun Look forward to reading about your next check!
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02/23/19 05:15 PM
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Yep, curious otter. I have taken a few in wolverine sets, and even one in a mink set, with a 1-1/2 stop-loss.
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02/23/19 05:22 PM
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I have also taken otter in wolverine cubbies. A few quite always from any open water. Also had coyote and lynx in them. Pretty versatile set, especially if open at both ends with two traps.
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02/23/19 07:39 PM
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Trapping salt isn't for everyone, and obviously can be dangerous. That said, snow machine lines will certainly bring a whole new set of challenges! AV I believe it! What with breakdowns and getting stuck. Apparently a couple of local guys woke up a brown bear around here recently, and got stalked. You just never know...
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02/23/19 08:54 PM
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I assume the bears never sleep. I have video of me releasing a small black bear from a wolverine set. I caught it 3 times, in different sets, in one season. His third visit was his last. I do NOT reccomend releasing bears out of traps. Trust me.
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02/24/19 09:49 AM
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Hey Len it’s good to hear from you. Wish you hadn’t stoped posting on here. You’re a big part of the early success of this site and your sharing of info and videos educated a lot of us. Come on back buddy. As for bears there’s a big difference between grizzlies and black bears. You never hear of a black bear exploding out of a winter den but around here boar grizzlies are known to come out any month of the year. Few years ago a pine beetle logging crew stopped to rest right on top of a den and the bear came out and grabbed a guy. They used saws to drive it off.
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Re: WH Journal
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02/24/19 02:47 PM
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I'm working on him Bushman. He is showing himself here and there. But he's a busy guy, and he ain't trapping - so that doesn't help. But I sure do notice that he is well connected, and loves talking with the fellow trappers in person.
I'm from MN originally. And I'm a biologist/naturalist as that was my first degree. Having said that, I will tell you that I have learned far more from "just being out there" hunting, fishing, trapping, exploring. Contrary to what most people think, bears don't truly hibernate. They get up and mill around throughout the winter - especially during warm spells. I have seen their tracks about every month of the winter. And, especially if they are disturbed. I've stumbled across black bears denned up on the coldest days a Minnesota December can offer (usually while hunting ruffed grouse). Some stay put. Others get up and run. Snowmachines and loggers will tell you the same. The thing with Blacks is they almost always run away. Brown bears, from what I understand, are much more unpredictable.
I tend to agree with AV - that I have become complacent not going more heavily armed on my trapline. Especially when I am dealing with some larger quantities of bait and these 30 and 40 degree days. It is extra weight, but I'm going to start carrying some firepower. You just never know.
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02/24/19 02:50 PM
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Bummer the coyote had such poor fur. Quite an adventure your having. On the bear. From what I heard. A guy was changing his snowmobile belt. Apparently it was close to a den. A bear come out and was headed towards the man. He didn't even realize it. His buddy drove up to him and said get on!!! Bear coming. The drove to town. Got a bear tag and returned to take it out of commission. 9.5 foot Brown bear. Crazy to think that guy would have likely been killed. Guess the bear was intent on coming at the guys. I would like to hear more about this, and perhaps see some pics. I imagine this should hit the Homer news? This is my NEXT bucket list thing - after I catch my wolf, of course!
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02/24/19 02:59 PM
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HFK - When I got there, I could see that a lone wolf had come in. My excitement level went way up - but I was trying to remain level-headed, and minimize my impact while I checked all my sets. I kept imagining that he would be in the next set. But alas, he snuck in and snuck out and got away with it. Coyotes had been there a lot before him, and probably polished off much of the bait. Not as much to keep him around. Pretty tough with just one wolf, and it sure seemed to be wise one. I think I stand a better chance when that pack comes back through. They canvased the entire area with tracks, and looked like they spent a good amount of time. I left them LOTS of bait. And I triple wired it to a tree so they can't steal it. And, I left lots and lots of sets on sign - exactly where they trod. Here's hoping...
Weather permitting, I'm pulling wolverine sets on Thursday. Then I'm just gonna have a wolf line that I check once a week or so throughout March.
I need more snares! Len helped me make some the other day, but my "loading technique" really needs work. Otherwise, I think I got it.
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02/24/19 03:40 PM
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If you can get your hands on bones, like moose and caribou, spines, legs, etc. A big pile of those will hold up well, and get scattered around. And the bulk of them will keep "fishing" for quite a while.
Just doing what I want now.
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02/24/19 05:21 PM
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FWIW I am more looking out for moose than bears in the winter. I have seen a sow with two cubs out at the ending of January, but have run into moose at all months of trapping. WH- a hint for those slippery beaches https://kahtoola.com/product/microspikes/. I bail over the side of the boat with them on. Wear them until I get back on board, as needed. Slippery beaches and gravity hurts!
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02/24/19 06:27 PM
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FWIW I am more looking out for moose than bears in the winter. I have seen a sow with two cubs out at the ending of January, but have run into moose at all months of trapping. WH- a hint for those slippery beaches https://kahtoola.com/product/microspikes/. I bail over the side of the boat with them on. Wear them until I get back on board, as needed. Slippery beaches and gravity hurts! Thanks for the tip. I have a pair. Not the same brand but something similar. I should wear them more. Gosh I'm beat up right now. And at 53, with an artificial knee and fused back and more, I need to work to minimize this crap! Some of the time it is just because I am unconsciously just pushing too hard. I'm pretty driven that way...
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02/24/19 07:30 PM
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53?!!! Good grief! You're a spring chicken!
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02/24/19 09:25 PM
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[quote=mad_mike] Thanks for the tip. I have a pair. Not the same brand but something similar. I should wear them more. Gosh I'm beat up right now. And at 53, with an artificial knee and fused back and more, I need to work to minimize this crap!
Yep. Learning is hard, and painful, for some.
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02/24/19 09:31 PM
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53?!!! Good grief! You're a spring chicken! Maybe so, at heart. But if you knew my story, you'd think it a miracle that i'm trapping at all. I'm a young man at heart, with a middle aged mind, and an old old mans body. But desire trumps, and then I play catch up, and then I do it again. Here's hoping I can keep this thing going for years to come.
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02/24/19 10:51 PM
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Well, we should meet. War stories, and all.
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02/25/19 12:08 AM
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I vaguely remember 53
X2 on Bushman's comments on bears and my 2 cents worth. Black bears out in winter only mean one thing = RABIES Know your zone in what is HOT lately around you.
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02/25/19 12:24 AM
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Hey Len it’s good to hear from you. Wish you hadn’t stopped posting on here. You’re a big part of the early success of this site and your sharing of info and videos educated a lot of us. Thanks Brian. Those days of sharing are some of my fondest memories. Back then I had lots to share and it was easy to fill up pages. haha. I am in somewhat of a slump right now. Regrouping a bit. Financially trapping just isn't in the cards for me. But have to say WH has my interest peaked and it fun to be able to share what I know. Wish I had more big canine advice. Most of what I do know has been gleaned from here. I do miss sharing adventures. Hopefully I will get to share a few more here. Tim the Wolverine Hunter has been pretty inspiring. I am sure we will have some adventures to share with TMan down the road. Were cooking up some ideas. Being a nomad I never really had anyone but my kids to do things with here in Homer. With them mostly out on their own now I have to come up with an adventurouse sole that dreams big. Might just have found the guy that likes crazy adventure as much as me.
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02/25/19 01:13 AM
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Hey Len it’s good to hear from you. Wish you hadn’t stopped posting on here. You’re a big part of the early success of this site and your sharing of info and videos educated a lot of us. Thanks Brian. Those days of sharing are some of my fondest memories. Back then I had lots to share and it was easy to fill up pages. haha. I am in somewhat of a slump right now. Regrouping a bit. Financially trapping just isn't in the cards for me. But have to say WH has my interest peaked and it fun to be able to share what I know. Wish I had more big canine advice. Most of what I do know has been gleaned from here. I do miss sharing adventures. Hopefully I will get to share a few more here. Tim the Wolverine Hunter has been pretty inspiring. I am sure we will have some adventures to share with TMan down the road. Were cooking up some ideas. Being a nomad I never really had anyone but my kids to do things with here in Homer. With them mostly out on their own now I have to come up with an adventurouse sole that dreams big. Might just have found the guy that likes crazy adventure as much as me. Good to see you back Len.
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02/25/19 01:15 AM
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W17 " I vaguely remember 53 " Now that's funny! But if it's any consolation I'm 59 and I barely remember 53 too.
WH - Just keep going until you can't. I've always been drawn to old bush guys ever since I was a kid, and luckily grew up in a northern town where I could watch them. What I saw time over time is they'd keep going strong until quite old and then one long enforced stay in a hospital sucked the life out of them. I guess every dog does have its day. But there was always that exception. The guy who wouldn't quit and gets lucky with their health and ends up croaking in the outhouse at 95. That's my exit plan.
I have a BF back in MN. He is ten years older than me, like a big brother, only even closer. We have a pact, and a saying: "As long as we never stop, we will never stop." We kind of hold each other accountable to that. We walk ourselves into the ground back home, hunting grouse and deer day after day. I know, it sounds silly - but that motto echoes in my head when I slide off a slippery bank and fall on my face in the boulders - and just want to keep laying there. Then, when I get back home and take a couple days to recoup, and wonder what the heck I'm doing? Guys retire all the time, and then they die in a myriad of ways. Guys with chronic pain hang it up, and then they lose their desire. I never wanna be that guy.
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02/25/19 05:24 AM
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If you’re interested in getting one over bait, I could probably hook you up with one this spring. I prefer blackies for spring meat, and browns just get in the way on a bait.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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02/25/19 02:51 PM
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If you’re interested in getting one over bait, I could probably hook you up with one this spring. I prefer blackies for spring meat, and browns just get in the way on a bait. Thanks for the offer. I believe I would like to help you with that problem! I take one blackie every year, and eat the meat as well. But I just want to get my first brownie. I think it would be quite a thrill.
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02/25/19 03:49 PM
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I’ll let you know in a couple months if I get any good looking ones on camera. I always see a few, but a lot are small, sows or ugly .
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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02/25/19 10:13 PM
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Words to the wise: bring a come-along, or rope-along. Makes dealing with big bears much easier.
Just doing what I want now.
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02/26/19 12:50 AM
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If you’re interested in getting one over bait, I could probably hook you up with one this spring. I prefer blackies for spring meat, and browns just get in the way on a bait. Thanks for the offer. I believe I would like to help you with that problem! I take one blackie every year, and eat the meat as well. But I just want to get my first brownie. I think it would be quite a thrill. WH if you get a bait going in Homer you will have no problem taking a brownie!! We took several when I lived down there a couple years ago. Had a much much higher proportion of browns compared to blacks. Just food for thought.
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02/26/19 12:55 AM
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Words to the wise: bring a come-along, or rope-along. Makes dealing with big bears much easier. Definitely. Got a 55 inch bull moose with my dad in MN back in the late 1980's. That's a big one for MN. Anyway, shot it out in the BWCAW out of a canoe. Just the two of us broke it down and packed it out 8 miles, but mostly by canoe. We used the "come-along" a lot when butchering that critter. Now he hangs in the house with me here in AK. It's a great place for him, and a great memory of a hunt with my pap. And I imagine its the same way with a big brownie.
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John - where do you get that skedko? Looks like it could be a bit wider! Nice bear! I brought a 400+ pound black home last summer, whole, by myself. WITHOUT a come-along. The good part was, I literally dropped him right on the beach, on a big rock that I could back my boat up to with the tide coming in. And, I dropped him right where he stood. The bad part was, once dead, nothing but a big blob of jelly! It took all I had just to get him into the splash well of my boat, and tie him in there and call it good. Shot him right before dark, otherwise I would have butchered him on the spot. Love bears and bear hunting stories... Not much of a photo but the night before my camera was dead and it was too dark anyway. The next am bright and early I flopped him out of my boat and drug him to a spot where I could put him on a tarp and skin/butcher. I've been eating burgers the last two nights. He's good! Sure was a fat one...
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Yeah, I learned my lesson a few years ago. Killed a large brownie, (9-3"), on a flat at low tide, right before dark. Stupidly decided to deal with it in the morning. Tide came up just enough to soak the bear. Next morning, I have a soaking wet bear with total rigor. An absolute nightmare. Had to skin a leg, then chop the leg off the carcass. Repeat for back leg. Then ropes to alders, trying to roll and repeat. For those that have dealt with a large, soaking wet bear hide, you know what a task it was getting it into the boat.
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02/26/19 10:32 PM
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John - where do you get that skedko? Looks like it could be a bit wider! Nice bear! I brought a 400+ pound black home last summer, whole, by myself. WITHOUT a come-along. The good part was, I literally dropped him right on the beach, on a big rock that I could back my boat up to with the tide coming in. And, I dropped him right where he stood. The bad part was, once dead, nothing but a big blob of jelly! It took all I had just to get him into the splash well of my boat, and tie him in there and call it good. Shot him right before dark, otherwise I would have butchered him on the spot. Love bears and bear hunting stories... Not much of a photo but the night before my camera was dead and it was too dark anyway. The next am bright and early I flopped him out of my boat and drug him to a spot where I could put him on a tarp and skin/butcher. I've been eating burgers the last two nights. He's good! Sure was a fat one... WH. Did you wait to gutt him till morning?
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02/26/19 11:27 PM
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I didn't gut him. Often don't gut my critters when there is no reason to. I can get all the meat from the outside (quarters, backstraps, neck) and the skin and skull. Tenderloins? I don't want them THAT bad. They are small, and that is the only thing I'm missing, along with a little rib meat. Believe it or not, you can even get the tenderloins without gutting if you know what you're doing, and are super careful. They are separate from the gut cavity.
You don't even have to keep black bear meat in the summer/fall, but I like the meat any time of year, and I get the lions share of it without driving myself nuts for every tidbit.
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Yeah, I learned my lesson a few years ago. Killed a large brownie, (9-3"), on a flat at low tide, right before dark. Stupidly decided to deal with it in the morning. Tide came up just enough to soak the bear. Next morning, I have a soaking wet bear with total rigor. An absolute nightmare. Had to skin a leg, then chop the leg off the carcass. Repeat for back leg. Then ropes to alders, trying to roll and repeat. For those that have dealt with a large, soaking wet bear hide, you know what a task it was getting it into the boat. Ok - I don't think I ever wanna do that - unless I absolutely have to. I would for a 9 foot brownie but there are better ways, I see. When your body is beat, and it's been a long day, and the skeeters are coming out - you can talk yourself outta stuff pretty fast! That is exactly what happened with this particular bear...
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02/27/19 12:02 AM
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For spring bears my go to is a heavy plastic tarp., after field dressing. Ive drug them out to the boat over tide flats and mud quite a ways....saves the hide and meat quality by keeping it clean. A tarp and paracord are just a handy thing to have onboard. Hope ya thin down the brown bears down there. Thanks Ross. I will keep that in mind. I have friends coming often. Many/most want to hunt bear, and they always want the hide and skull. Sometimes the meat, and when they don't want the meat, it is mine. We have some sons with big appetites who love it, and it never goes to waste. If there is daylight and the body is able - I usually just break them down on the spot. Bag them up and bring them to the boat. I usually have help - but not always. Luckily, we have not wounded one and had to chase it and pack it out. The only one I have ever had to pack out was one that I climbed to the alpine for. I did that to myself because it was a very special bear. But now, I'm feeling pretty satisfied in that department
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03/01/19 04:01 PM
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I went out with the intention of just pulling my wolverine sets, but since the day was so perfect, I decided to make the most of it. So when I made good time and finished pulling the cubbies early, I transitioned to working on my wolf line. A quick check revealed that I had nothing - but a lone wolf has been hanging around more than anything (except the ever present coyotes). This wolf travels alone, and comes by regularly. He appears to be pretty wise. I have seen him somehow avoid my snares. I spent a fair bit of time yesterday tracking him, and learning his habits and haunts. I tidied up some sets that had been knocked down. I hung some more where he had traveled. Half of them, I hung in necked-down areas where he had been two or three times. I have a bait back in the spruce. Judging by the tracks - the eagles have been landing out in the open, and then walking in to the bait some 20-30 yards. The eagles have been decimating my bait, along with the coyotes - so every week, I have to keep replenishing it. I'm going through it fast, but should make it till the end of March - when I plan to pull everything. Here is where a large coyote approached one of my wolf snares, took a look, and backed off. My "lone wolf." I don't know if the picture does him justice - but I have had a large pack come through, and this one's feet are as big as any I have seen in the area. I really want to catch him! But he is sly. Something tells me I won't catch him near the bait. Likely if I do, it will be 1, 2, 300 yards away or more. Most of the spots, I didn't photograph, but this one I paused to take a pic. I hit him here, and the next spot a hundred yards away where he left the alders and went into the spruce. I don't know what it is about this spot, but the lone wolf likes it. He doesn't pee there - at least not that I can see, but as you can tell, he spends a lot of time walking around in this little area. I posted this picture a week ago - asking and wondering if I should set it. I was thinking more about a foothold. But yesterday, I saw where he had returned again. He came in and out the same way both times, so I hung two snares in there. Lets hope. Still trying to figure out the wolves! And having a blast trying and learning. I currently have 6-10 snares which I think are too close to the actual bait site. I think this weekend, I am going to pull them out and put them in better spots, further out. I also have four leg holds I want to put into production. It is just a matter of finding the perfect spot. Even if it isn't perfect, I need to get them out there. They are doing NO GOOD riding around with me in my boat. So Saturday or Sunday, I will go back and really fine tune things as best as I can, and will report back then. One of these days, I hope to be reporting my first wolf catch. I've got a month here to get it done.
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03/01/19 04:13 PM
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You are doing it, WH. Great effort tends to bring great rewards. I tend to do line maintenance in summer, and fall, building and re-building cubbies, replacing boxes destroyed by bears, replacing this and that. Goods times.
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You are doing it, WH. Great effort tends to bring great rewards. I tend to do line maintenance in summer, and fall, building and re-building cubbies, replacing boxes destroyed by bears, replacing this and that. Goods times. I was thinking about that yesterday. There are the areas where I see wolves going all the time, but they are way too wide to trap. But if I "narrowed them down" and gave the wolves time to adjust and get used to it - this would give me a lot of trap opportunities for next season. As hard as trapping the salt is, I have grown to love the area where I am, and the more I get to know it intimately - the more I see opportunity. I know you like to trap the salt primarily. I do too, but I want to go up the drainages - but the only way I can do that legally is to go on foot. Lots of work! But if I get an earlier start next late fall/early winter - I can spread it out a bit. And like you say, do some prep work in summer.
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03/01/19 06:52 PM
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That right there is a serious bit of good info. Good hearing from you, nooksack.
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03/01/19 06:59 PM
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Those coyote tracks are teaching you something. My guess is that coyote did not like the sticks you added to that snare location. Minimal disturbance including human footprints is helpful. Snare the coyotes and you will learn much faster how to snare as they are a constant and not on a circuit like the wolves. If you can snare coyotes regularly you will also catch wolves. So would you say in that situation don't put in anything to narrow it down? Just let it hang out in the open? I've had some success snaring coyotes and bobcats back in MN. But the trails they use are smaller and more brushy. And, I have had some success guiding them with a stick or two. To be honest, I'm setting snares on wolf sign - usually places where they have been more than once - but I am having trouble just leaving that big loop there plain as can be. Something in me wants to guide them a bit, narrow the opening, or camouflage them a bit. Perhaps this is all wrong. So do I just leave them out in the open? Or look for narrower spots and only trap there?
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03/01/19 07:56 PM
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Just me: a coyote seems to notice the smallest change. Wolves, I don't know. Coyotes are ALWAYS suspicious. I trapped them hard when I was young, in central Oregon. After a couple of years defeating myself, I got better. With canines, they know you are there, period. It's when they know you are up to no good that the challenges arise
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03/03/19 04:50 PM
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I had a really enjoyable day on the line yesterday. Went early, stayed late. I worked so intensely that I completely forgot to take photos to add, as I know they make the journal so much more interesting.
Essentially, I followed advice given by those who trap wolves on here. I had snares that were too close to the bait. I pulled 17 of them, and moved them further back. Most on trails 100 yards away or more. I had a half dozen other snares that I hung.
I also put in a half dozen foot hold traps. Two of them went in as "blind sets" in the thick spruce forest, on an open trail that the wolves have been using regularly when they come through. I put them in a place where they step over a log and keep putting their foot in the same place. I chopped out the frozen ground to make a trap bed, filled in with moss and dry leaves, and sprinkled in snow. I think it looked pretty good. Another one went in the open - in a spot where the wolves have been jumping over a small creek from the bank, to a big log, to the other side. There is a place where they put their feet regularly to "launch" themselves to the log. This one was tricky, and will be most susceptible to freeze up. The other three, I put in small creeks with running fresh water, with bait. These are in spots where thick spruce trees have fallen across, and I can force them a bit, naturally.
Two of the footholds are MB 750. I see mixed reviews on them. Some say they are a favorite. Others say the springs are not strong enough and they don't hold. I've never used them before - so I am testing. I got trap setters with mine, and they work great, but not on other brands. I also got two of the "NO BS" wolf traps based on recommendation from Alaska Viking. I had to set them the old fashioned way. And, I got two of the Alaska #9 from our old buddy JR. He has a video on his journal where he jumps up and lands on the trap to set it in his garage. I got a kick out of that. I do the same thing - except I get a run at it. Not really, but if I can get on some kind of a hump and be next to a good sized tree to steady myself, that definitely helps. Alaska #9 seems to have the most powerful springs as it was the hardest to set the first go around. That tells me something. Like anything, I will get better with practice. When I get the springs rotated, it helps to be able to shuffle my feet onto the jaws themselves, so that I can bend over and set the thing.
I don't think I've ever caught a canine in a foothold (I am more of a snare man), but I am ready to learn. So it will be fun when I do. Notice I said "when."
Other than that, I baited things up good. And, I adjusted all of the snares that I had out. Mostly for height, and I took out all of the blocking and forcing that I had done previously, and left them out in the open (even though it went against my instincts) - and simply centered them up above the wolf tracks and hopefully they take care of the rest!
Thanks to all for the tips and the PM's. Since my line is strictly in one spot now, and since I spent so much time there yesterday - I am going to let it soak now for awhile. Send some good vibes to "my wolves" - that they come through before my next check, and that I can score before March is done!
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03/03/19 05:06 PM
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Just a thought..........not sure how you are doing this but I have ALWAYS found that canines where I have trapped are very skittish if you walk in their trail. I always set my snares from the side. I am doing that as much as I can - but sometimes, the trail is not so obvious because the snow has melted. Also, I am canvasing an area the size of three or four football fields, so hard to see how I can go in and do that without some impact. Everything I do is on foot. There is no people trail to work from. No ATV or snowmobile. Hopefully the scent decreases with time, and better yet, we get a little snow to cover things up a bit. If I can just hook one, I think the rest will mill around. But there is one lone wolf that is hanging around the most - and he is the one I am really hoping to get. I spent a ton of time tracking him yesterday, trying to figure out what he does, and where. I guess I did take one photo yesterday. This is an example of what he does, and where. One set of tracks. I set on some of these, but I tried to actually set where he had been two or three times. I have several of them that I am pretty excited about. This was him going through once, in a spot about 200 yards from the bait. Seemed like a good natural spot for a snare. If he uses that trail again, he's toast (I hope)!
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03/03/19 07:54 PM
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Just to be clear, I have zero experience with the NO BS wolf traps. Just the canine extremes, for wolverine, and am a big fan. For wolf traps, I defer to others.
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03/03/19 10:14 PM
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Just a thought..........not sure how you are doing this but I have ALWAYS found that canines where I have trapped are very skittish if you walk in their trail. I always set my snares from the side. I am doing that as much as I can - but sometimes, the trail is not so obvious because the snow has melted. Also, I am canvasing an area the size of three or four football fields, so hard to see how I can go in and do that without some impact. Everything I do is on foot. There is no people trail to work from. No ATV or snowmobile. Hopefully the scent decreases with time, and better yet, we get a little snow to cover things up a bit. If I can just hook one, I think the rest will mill around. But there is one lone wolf that is hanging around the most - and he is the one I am really hoping to get. I spent a ton of time tracking him yesterday, trying to figure out what he does, and where. I guess I did take one photo yesterday. This is an example of what he does, and where. One set of tracks. I set on some of these, but I tried to actually set where he had been two or three times. I have several of them that I am pretty excited about. This was him going through once, in a spot about 200 yards from the bait. Seemed like a good natural spot for a snare. If he uses that trail again, he's toast (I hope)! How high is the bottom of your loop there? From that picture, using the alder sprigs as a gauge, it looks to be 4-8” off of the snow.
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03/03/19 11:26 PM
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WH. Um,..... re:do. Wolves=knee-high to the BOTTON of the loop. Some places just can't be set, perfectly. If you can't do it perfect for canines, din't do it. I suffer this situation.
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03/04/19 01:39 PM
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Just to be clear, I have zero experience with the NO BS wolf traps. Just the canine extremes, for wolverine, and am a big fan. For wolf traps, I defer to others. I'm giving them a test! I have one in the spruce forest and one in the open snow. I didn't bury either in snow so they should work if given the chance. Its a big-(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) trap!
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03/04/19 01:41 PM
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From my experience the #9 is king. The Koro wolf trap is second. My third choice is SC 4.5 which I use primarily in sets that will have salt water on them. Size does matter as does,spring strength. The #9 is more resistant to freezing down than the Koro. Without having handled a No BS Wolf trap I can only compare them to the K9 Extreme. Every dogless trap seems to be more prone to being frozen down than a trap using a pan and dog. What is SC?
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03/04/19 04:40 PM
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Ok. I'm letting traps soak. I've got the day off mostly. Bored and need something to do. All this talk of gun control has me feeling rebellious. Kind of a "shove it" moment, actually. Think I will team up with Family Trapper and go buy a gun!!! I can think of a few I NEED. A multitude that I WANT. I'm gonna go and see how it shakes out.... We will see how "purchase friendly" Alaska is. I've never purchased here before.
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