Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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Unless the left gets impatient or they believe they have a firm majority of the citizens in their favor, gun confiscation will not occur. They will continue on their present course of unchecked immigration,replacing Hope with government goodies, and educating the youth that the right to defend yourself is afforded to the collective (.gov), not the individual. They have majority I think. Anyone wanting income, easy life, and free stuff. Question is who will they get to enforce and carry out. Govt shut down proves a lot of folks will choose pay check per Constitution. They won't come to your door to get them. They will regulate you into submission. Most will turn them in just to avoid possible conflict. Very true. I remember 35 yrs ago in basic training, a drill sergeant held up an ink pen and said "this pen can whoop you" and he was spot on.
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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On the news tonight, they were announcing the various bribes the democrat presidential hopefuls were promising to give their voters, with other people's money. One wants to pay every poor person $3000.00 more at tax time. Another wants to give every poor kid $1000.00 a year. One wants to tax rich people at 70% They are all socialists. The problem is that many self interested people will vote against the countries best interest to enrich themselves at other's expense.
Keith Sadly, it has worked so far. That's what got us where we are right now.
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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They can do the same with guns as they did with Obamacare...if you don't go along with it, they get you when you file income taxes. They also have the power to confiscate $$ you have in the bank. They did that to Amish in Nebraska who were fined for home-schooling instead of public schools, and refused to pay the fine.
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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Government has never liked citizens or subjects either one who opt to remain free. Government takes money, it incarcerates and it kills people who refuse to submit. Doesn't matter whether they are infringing on anothers freedom or property it only matters that they have refused to submit. Committing heinous crimes like turning off their government owned water supply to collect rain water for example or putting up a building on property they thought they owned without first getting permission from the real owner their local government. Freedom is continuously under attack. Next time you get all wadded up over your neighbor not mowing his grass or keeping an old car in his yard that is junk ask yourself how that effects the way you want to live.
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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Yup. Anybody who thinks they own property "free and clear".....try not paying your annual rent "tax" to the county assessor.
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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Yup. Anybody who thinks they own property "free and clear".....try not paying your annual rent "tax" to the county assessor. Here we have what is commonly called school tax . My neighbor was complaining to me one time and I told him to change the subject . He kept on until I finally said I did not nor did my wife ever attend the school of the district we live in .We never had any children attend that district so we are paying but never received anything in return . I said you have 3 kids going to the school so he is getting something in return . He replied I guess I see your point .Anyway try not paying those taxes and see what happens . Even after you are finished paying your mortgage you need to pay rent as long as you live.
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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Government has never liked citizens or subjects either one who opt to remain free. Government takes money, it incarcerates and it kills people who refuse to submit. Doesn't matter whether they are infringing on anothers freedom or property it only matters that they have refused to submit. Committing heinous crimes like turning off their government owned water supply to collect rain water for example or putting up a building on property they thought they owned without first getting permission from the real owner their local government. Freedom is continuously under attack. Next time you get all wadded up over your neighbor not mowing his grass or keeping an old car in his yard that is junk ask yourself how that effects the way you want to live. Well said. Mike
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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They have to get the presidency and both houses. After that they will call to repeal the second amendment and the electoral college.
Their plan is to take your guns away after you no longer have the right to own them.
That is how close we are. The democrats had the house and the senate and the presidency when Barrack Obama was president, and the second amendment and the electoral college are both still around. (Both require a constitutional amendment to change, so it doesn't really matter who controls the white house and the legislature, but lets play along.) However, when republicans controlled the white house and the legislature recently, we lost bump stocks. I'm not saying this to bash our President, believe it or not. I'm saying this because the enemy isn't one political party or another, the enemy is authoritarianism, and you're only fooling yourselves if you think only one party has a monopoly on that. One party is more authoritarian than the other, for sure, but it's a problem in both parties. Always fight for small government and freedom. regardless of which party you vote for.
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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The democrats had the house and the senate and the presidency when Barrack Obama was president, and the second amendment and the electoral college are both still around.
You make a good point.....BUT: A person, when considering this fairly logical argument, needs to take into consideration that 'they' also were very confident his successor would be a similar minded POTUS and these folks may have learned some new tricks since bo's 2 terms. Plus the complete radicalization of the dem party is something that is more recent.
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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The democrats had the house and the senate and the presidency when Barrack Obama was president, and the second amendment and the electoral college are both still around.
You make a good point.....BUT: A person, when considering this fairly logical argument, needs to take into consideration that 'they' also were very confident his successor would be a similar minded POTUS and these folks may have learned some new tricks since bo's 2 terms. Plus the complete radicalization of the dem party is something that is more recent. I don't disagree with that at all. Both parties are getting further apart and more radicalized, but Trump's election seems to have sent the Democrats ever the edge. The democrat party is most definitely the more dangerous of the two main parties, and the more willing of the two to go completely crazy in what they do.
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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Re: Nancy Pelosi Threatens Nationwide Gun Ban
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Bill of Rights will come into play trying to declare an emergency that contradicts it? totally different animal from protecting our borders from an invasion/drug running ect.....
while that is her objective to take the guns and all no doubt that end run isnt going to work as it is totally differing situations. She is either blowing steam and making unsubstantiated threats to create fear OR they really weren't smart enough to add a clause in that bill Trump just signed to take is declaration powers away????
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