I like it!

Dr. Jerry P. Kulah, an African delegate to the United Methodist Conference who is a professor at the United Methodist University in Liberia:

“And then please hear me when I say as graciously as I can: we Africans are not children in need of western enlightenment when it comes to the church’s sexual ethics. We do not need to hear a progressive U.S. bishop lecture us about our need to ‘grow up.’”

“[W]ith all due respect, a fixation on money seems more of an American problem than an African one. We get by on far less than most Americans do; we know how to do it. I’m not so sure you do. So if anyone is so naïve or condescending as to think we would sell our birth right in Jesus Christ for American dollars, then they simply do not know us.”

“Please understand me when I say the vast majority of African United Methodists will never, ever trade Jesus and the truth of the Bible for money.”

Praise God for Dr. Kulah and the African Methodists.

#holdtheline

There are true Baptist in every denomination . Weather they realize it or not!!

Hold the line brother!

Good for him

i'm very dissappointed in organized religion anymore.

I'm sure this African delegate is referring to this:

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/23/6971...ebate-lgbtq-clergy-and-same-sex-weddings

Notice how few people are sitting in the pews. The UMC in America is rapidly dying because they continually compromise their beliefs in order to be attractive to current culture; big mistake.

Every Christian denomination is suffering do to watered down preaching and social justice comprising! Even Baptist!

Between that and the horrors that past and present govt have inflicted on people through the Catholic Church anyway. Catholicism (which is a cult) is used as the measuring rod for all Christianity it seems. Now the other denominations are leaving Christ to maintain a touchy, feely, social relationship with those who couldn't care less about Christ.

It's an up hill battle fighting heavy guns and mortars when trying to get Christ message out there anymore. But that is Satan at his finest. Divide, confuse, use, and destroy!

Men of the God should understand that you will keep them in the church with what you won them with! Those with out God that are truly seeking truth will stay no matter how hard the preaching hits them! We all have sinned. It's what we decide to do with that knowledge after the lights are turned on to it that counts!

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I wouldn't say that "Every Christian denomination is suffering". But it would be safe to say that most if not all of the old "mainline" denominations are suffering like you suggest. There are definitely churches that are growing; and they aren't the ones that are compromising. Many people still have a hunger for truth.

Yup!


Independent fundamental here. AKA fanatic

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Your right!

Over all main line are suffering! Cause is watered down easy believeisim!

The one that are growing are the ones who maintain doctrine!

These boys over in Africa are no punks when it comes to persecution! Honestly, I can't believe the Methodist higher ups thought they could make them fold with threats of disfunding, etc...

One truly puts their lives in God's hands over there and places like it when you take a stand for Christ! You can die for it!!!!!!!!

You ain't breaking them folks with money from America!!

And that's what he is telling them! In a very polite manner.

Me: "just say when" you no good servant of the devil! Put your money where the sun dont shine!

The UMC is holding a conference in St.Louis soon to decide what the church position will be toward Gay marriage. Regardless of the outcome the church will be divided. It is my opinion that
church policies should not be changed to meet modern liberal ideas, but should remain with the teachings of the Bible.

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I'm one that hungers for the truth and not just in the pulpit but in my reading and worship too.

No they are not punks. One can be persecuted unto death quickly in Africa, middle east (including Israel) and China.

Should never even got to the point of a vote!

Isaiah summed it up in chapter 5 and verse 20.

Mainly because people have to preach every-where they go. Turns people off'

I have heard that the Charismatics are growing in other parts of the world outside the US.

Agree
Pretty high minded and prideful to vote on God's Word.
Like He cares what a bunch of church hierarchy thinks. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
They've got the Potter and the clay mixed up.

Most American church denominations have been dead for years as far as preaching the gospel goes, they've become little more than places where people meet for social functions. Liberalism infects everything.