Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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Neat stuff Chancey! I always enjoy your posts! Thanks! Your welcome Mr. Steinmeyer! Ancient civilizations and megaliths fascinate me. Glad you enjoy the posts. Did you hear about all the Mayan relics they found at the bottom of a lake last month? Really interesting. This Guatemalan lake has several inlets, but no outlets in the form of rivers or creeks but still remains fresh water. Makes me wonder if the relics were actually sunken in the lake or if they were there before the lake formed. https://www.livescience.com/64880-sunken-mayan-artifacts-sacred-lake.html
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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Interesting stuff wr otis! I had never heard of Meadowcroft dig, thanks for sharing. You know the population in the Americas was enormous just by looking at all the stuff they are finding in the Mexican jungles using LIDAR! I bet the mound building civilizations were much larger as well! Check out this Olmec head in Mexico. The carving and detail is incredible IMO. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2019/03/full-40766-2377-olmec_head.jpg) Also, check out these pics. One of the below pics is Olmec in Mexico and the other is from ancient Mesopotamia. Both carved in 3D and both of them carrying purses. Suggests to me that these cultures were somehow linked and shared a common knowledge. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2019/03/full-40766-2379-sumer_purse.jpg)
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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Google dr James adavasio, did the work at meadowcroft. Also has half dozen or so books out. Mostly centered around the initial peopleing and early sites. Couple years ago he was working under water in the gulf of Mexico, searching for habitated sites that are now well under water. Don't remember how deep they were but it was amazing to think the oceans we're that much lower, really hard to imagine. His First Americans book, he talks about the heirarchy of the archeology world. And how a few men at the top skewed the perception and adaptation of early sites for years or decades really. The man is fascinating and just brilliant, with no prejudice against new possibilities. Wow wr otis! I googled him and found this from NOAA. This is from the initial start of his research in the Gulf in 2008 and some of their findings. They were finding stuff on the Continental Shelf in the Gulf at depths of 300 feet under water! https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/08negmexico/welcome.html
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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I always found the trade route theories interesting.Products from South America found in North America,and vice versa,like Lake Superior copper found in Mexico.Fascinating stuff from a stone age civilization. Check this article out Buck Zandra. It is about an ancient submerged Mayan Port called Vista Alegre. A lot of the work being done is underwater, but they have found some really interesting stuff that suggests the coastal Mayans were great sea-faring folks much like the Phoenicians! They were trading stuff from all over the place. https://www.hakaimagazine.com/features/hidden-coastal-culture-of-the-ancient-maya/
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2019/03/full-1374-2439-49101824_10213025353164513_4279016448887619584_o.jpg) From a few years ago. I went to the Mayan ruins at Copan in Honduras while I was deployed as a criminal investigator for JTF-B at Soto Cano AB.
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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With the knowledge of the existence of the underwater sites, how long have people been on this continent? My opinion is they don't really know. Apparently massive amounts of evidence could be either lost or just simply submerged.
He has been doing work in Florida on land, old site with I believe human remains. Lately I haven't been able to remember things very well. I suspect homosapiens have been around much longer than most people believe, all over the World. Evidence of our existence would be very hard to find until their were lots and lots of people to leave the evidence. Keith
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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With the knowledge of the existence of the underwater sites, how long have people been on this continent? My opinion is they don't really know. Apparently massive amounts of evidence could be either lost or just simply submerged.
He has been doing work in Florida on land, old site with I believe human remains. Lately I haven't been able to remember things very well. Also a bunch of extinct mega fauna remains at that Florida site! http://preclovis.blogspot.com/2014/03/new-dig-seeks-to-solve-mysteries-of-old.html
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2019/03/full-1374-2439-49101824_10213025353164513_4279016448887619584_o.jpg) From a few years ago. I went to the Mayan ruins at Copan in Honduras while I was deployed as a criminal investigator for JTF-B at Soto Cano AB. Those carvings are unbelievable! Would love to know how in the world they carved that out of stone and what tools they used.
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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Stone age as a term leads you to think those people were maybe less intelligent than modern people. They were modern humans just like us, with all our capacity's but a different environment and skill set. The other thing that is hard to really grasp is the timeline, ten thousand years worth of occupation of the Americas. Lots of seemingly impossible or improbable ideas, are completely possible when you consider the length of time involved.
The archeology work being done in South America that shows possible human occupation ten thousand years prior to currently accepted dates of 14,000 years ago is really interesting. How would dates that old, have been that far south of the Bering land bridge. In all of South America, could one group of people, have stopped in one location, and that one particular location be discovered today. That in itself seems impossible, to find one singular spot on an entire continent. Supposedly the south american settlements were populated from the polynesion islands. They say they followed the trade winds across the pacific.
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2019/03/full-1374-2439-49101824_10213025353164513_4279016448887619584_o.jpg) From a few years ago. I went to the Mayan ruins at Copan in Honduras while I was deployed as a criminal investigator for JTF-B at Soto Cano AB. Those carvings are unbelievable! Would love to know how in the world they carved that out of stone and what tools they used. I have a bunch of other photos from my time at the Mayan ruins, I'll have to dig them out and scan them. Some of the "sports" venues and sacrifice alters were incredible.
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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Pretty interesting stuff regarding the elongated skulls in Peru. Real cool that they found some in the Mayan Caves as well that the Mexican discoverers also said had different DNA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBCNGOJa_ec
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Re: Interesting Mayan Discoveries
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Found some creatures that resembled a wolf and a bear in the underwater caves in Mexico. Significant because until now, scientists never thought these species occurred anywhere but in South America. The kind of bear represents a species that is believed to be the biggest that ever roamed the earth! Must of been terrifying for the people that lived with these critters during that time period. https://phys.org/news/2019-05-animal-bones-bottom-hoyo-negro.html
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