Now I understand why modify
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03/09/19 01:59 PM
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turkn8rtrapper
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New to trapping. Picked up some 1 3/4 Dukes and read up on modifying. Most of what I read made sense. So I base plated them tacked everything well. Bubble tipped the jaws. Added crunch proofs and new chain. Nite latched them. Leveled the pans which will now have to be re done. Went to add washers in pan support and noticed 2 things that convinced me that this is a necessity.First realized that the brass screw is just long enough to set pan tension as is. When I removed them most(3 dozen) were on the verge of stripping . Pan tension was loosened by me upon receipt not tightened. Two broke. Then i noticed there was no rime or reason to which post had bent to set tension. Some had equally bent some left side bent some right side bent. There is no possible way that there is any consistency coupled with the pinch point at the top. I am glad I did this as I know I got what I paid for but they have been around a long time and I like them. A little work but the price was right for what I'm doing. Thanks to everyone for great input to a new guy and the vast knowledge on here.
"Skin that smokewagon and see what happens"
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/10/19 04:16 AM
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I still use my #2's that I modded good little trap. One other thing I did to mine was take a piece of a 8d finish nail and tack it to the top of the dog. Really stiffens it up J
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/10/19 10:58 PM
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TONY.F
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not me if your plagued with high dollar hunting dogs lams will most definitely save feet. non targets are the biggest reason I mod my predator equipment! Even on a 24 hr check in below freezing a animal can possibley lose a foot to freezing. couple that with a mangled paw and its just a black eye id prefer to avoid.Theres no doubt a unlaminated jaw will bite down harder creating a stronger grip but that says it all. I'll risk l a pullout to a 50 dollar yote versus a 1000 dollar vet bill or worse! That's the great thing about moding a trap its users choice.Although if it didn't help manufactures wouldn't offer them that way . A disclaimer would be cheaper then retooling a machine, or paying a welder to fabricate them. I'd never try a convince some one its a waste of time or money though.Just test it on your own hand the proof is in the pudding.I have and I highly recommend gloves with unmodded traps not your whole hand just a finger!
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/10/19 11:22 PM
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not me if your plagued with high dollar hunting dogs lams will most definitely save feet. non targets are the biggest reason I mod my predator equipment! Even on a 24 hr check in below freezing a animal can possibley lose a foot to freezing. couple that with a mangled paw and its just a black eye id prefer to avoid.Theres no doubt a unlaminated jaw will bite down harder creating a stronger grip but that says it all. I'll risk l a pullout to a 50 dollar yote versus a 1000 dollar vet bill or worse! That's the great thing about moding a trap its users choice.Although if it didn't help manufactures wouldn't offer them that way . A disclaimer would be cheaper then retooling a machine, or paying a welder to fabricate them. I'd never try a convince some one its a waste of time or money though.Just test it on your own hand the proof is in the pudding.I have and I highly recommend gloves with unmodded traps not your whole hand just a finger! Ok Tony I got a question for ya. On legally set trap you guy are responsible for a vet bill on a dog out roaming around. Hmmm?
Kenneth schoening
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/11/19 07:25 AM
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not me if your plagued with high dollar hunting dogs lams will most definitely save feet. non targets are the biggest reason I mod my predator equipment! Even on a 24 hr check in below freezing a animal can possibley lose a foot to freezing. couple that with a mangled paw and its just a black eye id prefer to avoid.Theres no doubt a unlaminated jaw will bite down harder creating a stronger grip but that says it all. I'll risk l a pullout to a 50 dollar yote versus a 1000 dollar vet bill or worse! That's the great thing about moding a trap its users choice.Although if it didn't help manufactures wouldn't offer them that way . A disclaimer would be cheaper then retooling a machine, or paying a welder to fabricate them. I'd never try a convince some one its a waste of time or money though.Just test it on your own hand the proof is in the pudding.I have and I highly recommend gloves with unmodded traps not your whole hand just a finger! Ok Tony I got a question for ya. On legally set trap you guy are responsible for a vet bill on a dog out roaming around. Hmmm? In some states, yes. I forget if it's Mississippi or Alabama, but they apply strict liability to trappers who catch hunting dogs. Even if you're totally in the right, you're screwed.
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/11/19 10:49 AM
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not me if your plagued with high dollar hunting dogs lams will most definitely save feet. non targets are the biggest reason I mod my predator equipment! Even on a 24 hr check in below freezing a animal can possibley lose a foot to freezing. couple that with a mangled paw and its just a black eye id prefer to avoid.Theres no doubt a unlaminated jaw will bite down harder creating a stronger grip but that says it all. I'll risk l a pullout to a 50 dollar yote versus a 1000 dollar vet bill or worse! That's the great thing about moding a trap its users choice.Although if it didn't help manufactures wouldn't offer them that way . A disclaimer would be cheaper then retooling a machine, or paying a welder to fabricate them. I'd never try a convince some one its a waste of time or money though.Just test it on your own hand the proof is in the pudding.I have and I highly recommend gloves with unmodded traps not your whole hand just a finger! Ok Tony I got a question for ya. On legally set trap you guy are responsible for a vet bill on a dog out roaming around. Hmmm? Not just that but we live in a sue happy society and even if your 100% in the right you could still End up in court and loosing, it’s a lot harder getting soaked for vet bills when all the mutt experienced is some inconvenience in being held immobile To me it is cheap insurance on land traps anyways I don’t mod my water traps more then adding extra chain
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/11/19 11:22 AM
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Red not yet but as nitelife said it only takes one bleeding heart judge for all that to change in a instant! In my area the city folk move to the country buy one cow,3 llammas and 5 pyrenese. So im very vigilante about doing all I can to insure they return home with all 4 paws.Old farmers wouldn't waste there resources to fight you in court but the new breed of disney farmers wont hesitate.A land owner opened my eyes to paw damage done by traps! It almost cost me a property! If your miles from society10 or more then you wouldn't have any worrys. Because ultimately we all know what the future of a predator in a trap is.I trap 100% private property but face it dogs have more rights then trappers
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/17/19 11:08 AM
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hood ornament isn't a good analogy unless chrome plating a trap is considered a modification improvements to make a product preform better have been around since time began And as end users developed their own modifications that worked a business developed selling products already modified its the American way
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/17/19 11:19 AM
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Nitelife &Tony thank you for the reply,,, wow Makes no sense to me sorry A guy would think private means private property.
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/17/19 01:29 PM
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Nitelife &Tony thank you for the reply,,, wow Makes no sense to me sorry A guy would think private means private property. Private does mean private to people. But the dog guys defense is my dog cant read a sign. So we the guys doing it by the book take it in the rear The houndsmen here get permission on 10 acres and hunt10,000.But as long as a judges allows the dog owners to run rampid! Its never going to change only get worse!
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Re: Now I understand why modify
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03/17/19 04:11 PM
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Tony up here they better get permission to recover dog from landowner , or get a game warden to help them. Because a landowner DOES NOT have let anyone there property to recover anything including a dead deer or elk if it jumped a fence then died. If a dog is walking in cattle sheep or whatever landowner can shoot that dog without any repercussions that is my understanding of the law hear. Dog can't read here hold the owner of the dog liable so I hope the dog owner can read.
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