Re: Stalled o知uskrat
[Re: nimzy]
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03/26/19 06:35 AM
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. . . I had a crush on a cheerleader, does that count? Was he good looking?
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
[Re: handitrapper]
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03/26/19 09:04 AM
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So is the general consensus 2 zones, with Hwy 64 as a boundary? Same as everything else.
Or do you think we really need 3 zones as in the past? The general consensus is . . . there is no general consensus. This horse was beat to death last year. I can still hear the final wails from the poor beast. The northern guys want an early opener to at least get some open water trapping before ice up, but don't want the southern guys invading "their turf." So they want the statewide opener. The southern guys want a later opener so 'rats can grow a bit bigger and be a bit more prime before legal harvest. There are those who say trap when you want and open the state up early, but obviously don't trap large public marshes. We wouldn't be in this mess if a couple of influential individuals hadn't diddled with the season dates for one reason only: greed. The founders of the WTA worked hard to secure staggered season openers to coincide with muskrat fur primeness. Now we play politics.
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
[Re: nimzy]
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03/26/19 09:29 AM
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The one area were most agreed was the end. I think we can go in united on extending the season. If and when legislators ask about the start, we stay we are focused on the end because that is where we could find strong consensus. We are frustrated that it continues to get lost (and even made worse) as folks bicker about the start.
But if they want to know our thoughts on season start, we lay it out very similar to what you outlined Muskrat, minus the tone. Look, if we are together at the capital, we will have each side represented. If they want to give weight to all thoughts, we propose something like MN and their two zones that may or may not start on the same weekend. If they want simplification, then we say go with a common opener across the board. If they want to give more weight to the resource, then they go with three zones. If they are willing to keep us in the loop, and bounce their ideas off us as a group, then we will defend that decision coming out as a group.
Lastly, we notify the WTA, Conservation Congress, and the FB page Wisconsin Trappers of our intentions, and encourage them to participate in this discussion.
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
[Re: nimzy]
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03/26/19 09:47 AM
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Greed? How many guys will travel from Dane county to Vilas county to trap rats?
1 zone that keeps every one on the same page no zone jumping that should keep every one happy. Fur primness? Do you really think 1 week will make that much difference In fur primness. It might have some effect if you were talking a Sept opening but starting In late Oct I can't see It.
1 zone with a Oct opening and a March 31 closing. And while were at It make It a Oct opening for all species.
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
[Re: nimzy]
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03/26/19 09:52 AM
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Muskrat, you can't always take it to the extreme. Simplification can and is a good thing many times. Many times it makes it easier to prove your point.
Our focus on extending muskrat season with beaver will start to reinforce the need for at least two zones start without ever taking a stance on the start. We get to hammer the differences across the zone and when questioned why such a big difference between the two, we note the strong differences from the top of the zone to the bottom. I doubt we can get them to go to the three zones, but they will be much more likely to go with the two zone start.
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
[Re: nimzy]
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03/26/19 10:40 AM
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You have to be kidding right. No one In there right mind Is going to come to WI from out of state to trap rats.
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
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03/26/19 12:00 PM
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You have to be kidding right. No one In there right mind Is going to come to WI from out of state to trap rats. I did when they were 10 dollar rats. It was greed that made me do it.
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
[Re: nimzy]
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03/26/19 12:16 PM
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Then you should have gone to ND where they have some rats. Even at $4.00 averages you couldn't make any money state hopping. But a $6.00 you could.
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
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03/26/19 12:17 PM
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Even If you could you would be to late. LOL
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
[Re: nimzy]
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03/26/19 12:21 PM
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Could we try this?
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Re: Stalled o知uskrat
[Re: nimzy]
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03/26/19 12:31 PM
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So far you have just been sitting on your hands and haven't come up with what you would support. Get off the fence. LOL
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